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Re: [zookeeper] Private For Profit Zoo

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  • birdmanlv@aol.com
    I would notify USDA. They give people 30 days to correct deficiencies. It s a pretty fair system. But keep in mind, just shutting down a facility often places
    Message 1 of 7 , Sep 17, 2012
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      I would notify USDA. They give people 30 days to correct deficiencies. It's a pretty fair system.
      But keep in mind, just shutting down a facility often places the animals into even worse situations. 
       
      Joe Krathwohl
      The Birdman
       
       
      In a message dated 9/17/2012 5:43:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, melissa@... writes:
       

      I visited a small zoo with my sons' scout troops this weekend. I was appalled by some of the conditions I saw - no or little food, rusty cages, piles of feces, little or no enrichment, small cages, etc. I wish they would improve their conditions. What do you think is the best way to encourage that? Should I write them a letter suggesting improvements, or does that sort of thing automatically put them on the defensive? Should I just report them to the local humane society or animal control? I'm not sure there were legal violations, but the conditions were embarrassing. I don't see how they could be open to the public. I do have some pictures, but didn't take many.

      I appreciate any suggestions.

      Thanks,
      Melissa
      www.crittersandconservation.com

    • Raegan Royale
      Where is this zoo located?   Thank you, Raegan Royale   ________________________________ From: birdmanlv@aol.com To:
      Message 2 of 7 , Sep 17, 2012
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        Where is this zoo located?
         
        Thank you,
        Raegan Royale
         


        From: "birdmanlv@..." <birdmanlv@...>
        To: zookeeper@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:33 PM
        Subject: Re: [zookeeper] Private For Profit Zoo

         
        I would notify USDA. They give people 30 days to correct deficiencies. It's a pretty fair system.
        But keep in mind, just shutting down a facility often places the animals into even worse situations. 
         
        Joe Krathwohl
        The Birdman
         
         
        In a message dated 9/17/2012 5:43:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, melissa@... writes:
         
        I visited a small zoo with my sons' scout troops this weekend. I was appalled by some of the conditions I saw - no or little food, rusty cages, piles of feces, little or no enrichment, small cages, etc. I wish they would improve their conditions. What do you think is the best way to encourage that? Should I write them a letter suggesting improvements, or does that sort of thing automatically put them on the defensive? Should I just report them to the local humane society or animal control? I'm not sure there were legal violations, but the conditions were embarrassing. I don't see how they could be open to the public. I do have some pictures, but didn't take many.

        I appreciate any suggestions.

        Thanks,
        Melissa
        www.crittersandconservation.com


      • Melissa
        Winchester, VA Sent from my Samsung smartphone on AT&T ... Subject:Re: [zookeeper] Private For Profit Zoo From:Raegan Royale
        Message 3 of 7 , Sep 18, 2012
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          Winchester, VA


          Sent from my Samsung smartphone on AT&T


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          Subject:Re: [zookeeper] Private For Profit Zoo
          From:Raegan Royale <melanie.jerea@...>
          To:"zookeeper@yahoogroups.com" <zookeeper@yahoogroups.com>
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          Where is this zoo located?
           
          Thank you,
          Raegan Royale
           


          From: "birdmanlv@..." <birdmanlv@...>
          To: zookeeper@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:33 PM
          Subject: Re: [zookeeper] Private For Profit Zoo

           
          I would notify USDA. They give people 30 days to correct deficiencies. It's a pretty fair system.
          But keep in mind, just shutting down a facility often places the animals into even worse situations. 
           
          Joe Krathwohl
          The Birdman
           
           
          In a message dated 9/17/2012 5:43:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, melissa@... writes:
           
          I visited a small zoo with my sons' scout troops this weekend. I was appalled by some of the conditions I saw - no or little food, rusty cages, piles of feces, little or no enrichment, small cages, etc. I wish they would improve their conditions. What do you think is the best way to encourage that? Should I write them a letter suggesting improvements, or does that sort of thing automatically put them on the defensive? Should I just report them to the local humane society or animal control? I'm not sure there were legal violations, but the conditions were embarrassing. I don't see how they could be open to the public. I do have some pictures, but didn't take many.

          I appreciate any suggestions.

          Thanks,
          Melissa
          www.crittersandconservation.com


        • tkrogh9424@aol.com
          I would suggest calling or meeting the owner first. If they re approached properly they may divulge what the cause of the deficiencies are. Why get other
          Message 4 of 7 , Sep 18, 2012
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            I would suggest calling or meeting the owner first. If they're approached properly they may divulge what the cause of the deficiencies are.  Why get other people involved until you find out what's going on.    Perhaps it's owned by a couple and one of them is sick which is why the cages aren't cleaned like they should be or perhaps the owner lives away from the property and there's a caretaker.   Depending on the response you receive would determine what my next step would be.  If there's any indication that the issues would not be addressed ASAP, I wouldn't hesitate to speak to their USDA inspector vs submitting a formal complaint.
             
            Mary Krogh
             
             
          • Tom Wendt
            Only one Animal Park there. I just googled for reviews and see the old reviews were good and the recent ones not so good. Again, I agree with the prior poster
            Message 5 of 7 , Sep 18, 2012
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              Only one Animal Park there.
               
              I just googled for reviews and see the old reviews were good and the recent ones not so good.
               
              Again, I agree with the prior poster who suggested not going to the USDA just yet.  
               

              To: zookeeper@yahoogroups.com
              From: melissa@...
              Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:22:06 -0400
              Subject: Re: [zookeeper] Private For Profit Zoo

               
              Winchester, VA


              Sent from my Samsung smartphone on AT&T


              -------- Original message --------
              Subject:Re: [zookeeper] Private For Profit Zoo
              From:Raegan Royale <melanie.jerea@...>
              To:"zookeeper@yahoogroups.com" <zookeeper@yahoogroups.com>
              Cc:


              Where is this zoo located?
               
              Thank you,
              Raegan Royale
               


              From: "birdmanlv@..." <birdmanlv@...>
              To: zookeeper@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:33 PM
              Subject: Re: [zookeeper] Private For Profit Zoo

               
              I would notify USDA. They give people 30 days to correct deficiencies. It's a pretty fair system.
              But keep in mind, just shutting down a facility often places the animals into even worse situations. 
               
              Joe Krathwohl
              The Birdman
               
               
              In a message dated 9/17/2012 5:43:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, melissa@... writes:
               
              I visited a small zoo with my sons' scout troops this weekend. I was appalled by some of the conditions I saw - no or little food, rusty cages, piles of feces, little or no enrichment, small cages, etc. I wish they would improve their conditions. What do you think is the best way to encourage that? Should I write them a letter suggesting improvements, or does that sort of thing automatically put them on the defensive? Should I just report them to the local humane society or animal control? I'm not sure there were legal violations, but the conditions were embarrassing. I don't see how they could be open to the public. I do have some pictures, but didn't take many.

              I appreciate any suggestions.

              Thanks,
              Melissa
              www.crittersandconservation.com



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