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  • ms@ms.lt
    Samwel, Jambo! Samwel Kongere domisi uzupieciu nameliukais. Gal Lietuva galetu paskirti ji ar kita zmogu Lietuvos konsulu? Ar tai siektina? Andrius
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      Samwel, Jambo!

      Samwel Kongere domisi uzupieciu nameliukais. Gal Lietuva galetu paskirti
      ji ar kita zmogu Lietuvos konsulu? Ar tai siektina? Andrius Kulikauskas

      > Ok Andrius,
      > I was reading an articule one of these few days; about UN policies, a
      > comment, UN is still stuck in 1940s, while a social change is needed to
      > bring a dynamic economic sustainability. One lecturer of political
      > democracy said' this is a problematic equation of structure which need a
      > complete overwhole, some people from poor countries are a shamed of
      > themselves. Can the micro-house or hexayart shelter be useful to us?. From
      > our chat yesterday, i would be happy to stay with useful holiday makers
      > interested on sustainable agriculture and livelihood, food security than
      > sprawling migration to cities or greener pastures.
      > Just try to include our dream on the micro-house for Rusinga island, is it
      > suitable for farm house? Like the former socialist states seeking
      > diplomancy with developing countries.
      > Can Lithuania have a consulate or Embassy in Kenya to make our endeavors
      > easy?. To make our social network a reality?
      > Samwel.
      > Social Community Network/Information Coordinator,Suba/Mbita-Kenya'Aliving
      > hope is desire' When it is socially lived!
      >
      >
      > --- On Thu, 10/1/09, ms@... <ms@...> wrote:
      >
      >> From: ms@... <ms@...>
      >> Subject: [socialagriculture] Re: from a cell to global organic bottom
      >> up holistic green corporation/body
      >> To: "Global Palestine" <globalpalestine@...>
      >> Cc: socialagriculture@yahoogroups.com
      >> Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 8:33 PM
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>  
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> Wael,
      >>
      >> I am glad that you got good response at Ned.
      >>
      >> I have just one potential funding link in Palestine and I
      >> should focus on
      >>
      >> something relevant to Minciu Sodas. I would like to work
      >> together with
      >>
      >> you. Can we think how to link your local interests and a
      >> global network?
      >>
      >> Also, did you see:
      >>
      >> http://tech.
      >> groups.yahoo. com/group/ socialagricultur e/message/
      >> 1255
      >>
      >> Would it make sense to write a proposal together?
      >>
      >> And did you see that the Uzhupis Republic might send you a
      >> micro-house as
      >>
      >> part of our network, would you be interested?
      >>
      >> http://tech.
      >> groups.yahoo. com/group/ socialagricultur e/message/
      >> 1251
      >>
      >> Greetings from Barcelona and I will be back in Lithuania
      >> and can write
      >>
      >> more actively then.
      >>
      >> Can you think how your dream might unfold organically from
      >> you and a small
      >>
      >> team and then larger over the years? And how that might be
      >> part of an
      >>
      >> economy of dreams?
      >>
      >> Andrius
      >>
      >> Andrius Kulikauskas, Minciu Sodas, http://www.ms.
      >> lt, ms@...
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> > Hey Andrius,
      >>
      >> > please have a look to the thread and especially this
      >> part of the link
      >>
      >> > about
      >>
      >> > the discussion on ned bellow
      >>
      >> > http://www.ned.
      >> com/group/ community- general/news/ 345/31/
      >>
      >> >
      >>
      >> > <http://www.ned.
      >> com/group/ community- general/news/ 345/31/>Do you
      >> think you
      >>
      >> > can link my efforts to funds/grants giver, who are
      >> willing to support
      >>
      >> > creating such a model in Palestine?
      >>
      >> >
      >>
      >> > Regards,
      >>
      >> > Wael
      >>
      >> >
      >>
      >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
      >>
      >> > From: Global Palestine <globalpalestine@
      >> googlemail. com>
      >>
      >> > Date: Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:14 PM
      >>
      >> > Subject: Re: [OK] from a cell to global organic bottom
      >> up holistic green
      >>
      >> > corporation/ body
      >>
      >> > To: Chris Watkins <chriswaterguy@
      >> appropedia. org>
      >>
      >> >
      >>
      >> >
      >>
      >> > kinda of eco-social economy .. but the new is the
      >>
      >> > *cells-network/ web/medium
      >>
      >> > *with its regional central departments having global
      >> hub. Where the artist
      >>
      >> > and the farmer, the engineers, etc. are partners are
      >> can exchange roles
      >>
      >> > (dynamic alignment) if possible (*holistic *coverage
      >>
      >> > of sustainable economic possibilities) . Where
      >> meta-currency take action
      >>
      >> > under one *nexus hybrid trademark*. The principle are
      >> the most complex
      >>
      >> > part
      >>
      >> > to agree on, not the technology I think. But I think
      >> we will have to agree
      >>
      >> > on denominator we keep further-developing, which is
      >> for sure will much
      >>
      >> > better than any existing global neolibral
      >> corporation.
      >>
      >> > The central departments will take over the role of the
      >> so many NGOs for
      >>
      >> > example, as the involved community will cover all
      >> aspects for social
      >>
      >> > change
      >>
      >> > in there environment, which becomes within the
      >> topology I
      >>
      >> > am proposing border less.
      >>
      >> >
      >>
      >> > Do you and groups discussing the establishment of such
      >> a bottom up
      >>
      >> > corporation? If develop the theory and the modular
      >> design of the cell, we
      >>
      >> > will be able quickly find partners around the world.
      >> What I imagine is
      >>
      >> > that
      >>
      >> > lot of small ditches and streams will form new strong
      >> dynamic and new
      >>
      >> > powerful coalitions, which will dissolve the
      >> "pyramid" making it flat,
      >>
      >> > becoming a model will then become a reference can be
      >> easily adapted.
      >>
      >> >
      >>
      >> > "Planting" the cell in rural areas will
      >> reduce unemployment making being
      >>
      >> > part of the body very lucrative ..
      >>
      >> >
      >>
      >> > May be you can connect me with groups are having
      >> similar discussion. Or
      >>
      >> > give
      >>
      >> > me and recommendation ~
      >>
      >> >
      >>
      >> > Thanks
      >>
      >> > Wael
      >>
      >> >
      >>
      >> >
      >>
      >> >
      >>
      >> > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Chris Watkins
      >>
      >> > <chriswaterguy@
      >> appropedia. org
      >>
      >> >> wrote:
      >>
      >> >
      >>
      >> >> So the point is an economic solution? This may be
      >> new, yes. It's likely
      >>
      >> >> to
      >>
      >> >> be controversial, too - there are many proposed
      >> solutions. Socialism,
      >>
      >> >> and
      >>
      >> >> "ParEcon", (which I think are bad
      >> solutions) and the ideas of Amartya
      >>
      >> >> Sen
      >>
      >> >> and Joseph Stiglitz, based on freedom and on
      >> refinements of market
      >>
      >> >> economics
      >>
      >> >> (which I think are very good). Then there are
      >> local currencies, which
      >>
      >> >> seem
      >>
      >> >> interesting, but I don't understand in a deep
      >> economic way.
      >>
      >> >>
      >>
      >> >> My only thought is to read and learn from multiple
      >> perspectives, and
      >>
      >> >> recognize that the most appealing ideas and the
      >> most valuable ideas may
      >>
      >> >> be
      >>
      >> >> different things :-).
      >>
      >> >>
      >>
      >> >> Good luck with it.
      >>
      >> >>
      >>
      >> >>
      >>
      >> >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 17:25, Global Palestine
      >> <
      >>
      >> >> globalpalestine@
      >> googlemail. com> wrote:
      >>
      >> >>
      >>
      >> >>> this is elegance from you .. thanks Chris.The
      >> point is to create global
      >>
      >> >>> holistic economic body unifying the
      >> "blessed unrest" of the formal
      >>
      >> >>> world and
      >>
      >> >>> its destructive order based on modular
      >> "green production estate/cell" .
      >>
      >> >>> Isn't it a new approach?
      >>
      >> >>> Wael
      >>
      >> >>>
      >>
      >> >>>
      >>
      >> >>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Chris Watkins
      >> <
      >>
      >> >>> chriswaterguy@
      >> appropedia. org> wrote:
      >>
      >> >>>
      >>
      >> >>>> Hi Wael,
      >>
      >> >>>>
      >>
      >> >>>> I just wanted to apologize for never
      >> getting back to you. I did read
      >>
      >> >>>> your
      >>
      >> >>>> post on WiserEarth, but wasn't clear
      >> exactly what you were proposing
      >>
      >> >>>> to do
      >>
      >> >>>> that was different from what other people
      >> were doing.
      >>
      >> >>>>
      >>
      >> >>>> I've had many distractions, but am
      >> trying to focus on some specific
      >>
      >> >>>> projects to build the knowledge base on
      >> Appropedia. So I won't be
      >>
      >> >>>> heavily
      >>
      >> >>>> involved with other projects, but I will
      >> watch with interest, and give
      >>
      >> >>>> feedback and make connections when able.
      >>
      >> >>>>
      >>
      >> >>>> I just wanted to apologize and let you
      >> know what I'm doing.
      >>
      >> >>>>
      >>
      >> >>>> Cheers
      >>
      >> >>>> Chris
      >>
      >> >>>>
      >>
      >> >>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 22:39, Global
      >> Palestine <
      >>
      >> >>>> globalpalestine@
      >> googlemail. com> wrote:
      >>
      >> >>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>> Dear friends,
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>> I am proposing a project which is to
      >> develop a modular cell as basic
      >>
      >> >>>>> for
      >>
      >> >>>>> an organic bottom up economic body,
      >> where the cell operates as an
      >>
      >> >>>>> eco-system
      >>
      >> >>>>> of holistic integrated green
      >> de-centralized production. Here are
      >>
      >> >>>>> briefly
      >>
      >> >>>>> charts http://twitpic.
      >> com/hkyuf , http://twitpic.
      >> com/hkzau
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>> The first article I wrote introducing
      >> this concept as a pilot for
      >>
      >> >>>>> Palestine is here:
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>> http://www.wiserear
      >> th.org/resource/ view/f529bcd0176 bb10a8898c781885
      >> 34d71
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>> In this sense we use the free global
      >> market and economy to unify the
      >>
      >> >>>>> new
      >>
      >> >>>>> world borderless progressive dynamic
      >> to construct and sustain
      >>
      >> >>>>> humanity and
      >>
      >> >>>>> life on the planet integrating
      >> individual interaction on job-site
      >>
      >> >>>>> within
      >>
      >> >>>>> comprehensive understanding of live
      >> values.
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>> There is millions of progressive
      >> groups and organizations dealing
      >>
      >> >>>>> with
      >>
      >> >>>>> sustainable life-ecology, social and
      >> climate justice etc. All need
      >>
      >> >>>>> funds
      >>
      >> >>>>> from formal world. Many
      >> networks-meshes exist. There is many tries to
      >>
      >> >>>>> from
      >>
      >> >>>>> intellectual platform to unify the
      >> energy and build synergy, which is
      >>
      >> >>>>> very
      >>
      >> >>>>> complex approach. There is many groups
      >> developing different technical
      >>
      >> >>>>> communication solutions. There is so
      >> many efforts to build
      >>
      >> >>>>> constructive
      >>
      >> >>>>> synergy accelerate change. Meanwhile
      >> we all have or need work/jobs,
      >>
      >> >>>>> which is
      >>
      >> >>>>> mostly part of old destructive world.
      >>
      >> >>>>> The idea is to integrate what we are
      >> looking for, the life style of
      >>
      >> >>>>> sharing and cooperating, and to
      >> include the change we want to see in
      >>
      >> >>>>> ONE
      >>
      >> >>>>> vital economic corporation, belongs us
      >> all.
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>> We won’t be competing any system,
      >> but showing difference collectively
      >>
      >> >>>>> amplifying the global transformation
      >> process.
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>> The modular green production cell
      >> design together the principles can
      >>
      >> >>>>> be
      >>
      >> >>>>> the basic for global hybrid trademark
      >> and the bottom up holistic
      >>
      >> >>>>> Green
      >>
      >> >>>>> Corporation.
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>> Any person becomes a part of this
      >> organism will experience that life
      >>
      >> >>>>> is
      >>
      >> >>>>> not there only to insure short minded
      >> livelihood. Being part of the
      >>
      >> >>>>> local/regional/ global structure will
      >> pursue feeling of absence of
      >>
      >> >>>>> fear, joy
      >>
      >> >>>>> and if you want even love. The
      >> communication infrastructure between
      >>
      >> >>>>> the
      >>
      >> >>>>> cells and central departments will be
      >> the social networking platform
      >>
      >> >>>>> of the
      >>
      >> >>>>> involved communities.
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>> The modular principle is something
      >> similar to McDonald’s sites easy
      >>
      >> >>>>> to
      >>
      >> >>>>> benchmark every where in rural areas.
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>> Recent discussion is taking place @
      >>
      >> >>>>> http://www.ned.
      >> com/group/ community- general/news/ 345/
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>> I really need help to discuss such a
      >> model to see if it is a valid
      >>
      >> >>>>> idea
      >>
      >> >>>>> and how far it can be of being
      >> developed, or it might be none
      >>
      >> >>>>> applicable
      >>
      >> >>>>> delusion.
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>> It would be great if you could share
      >> your feedback to give me some
      >>
      >> >>>>> orientation.
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>> Thanks for your interest and giving a
      >> sight ~
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>> Wael
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>> --~--~------ ---~--~-- --~------
      >> ------~-- -----~--~ ----~
      >>
      >> >>>>> This is a message from the OpenKollab
      >> Google Group located at
      >>
      >> >>>>> http://groups.
      >> google.com/ group/openkollab ?hl=en
      >>
      >> >>>>> To post to this group, send email to
      >> openkollab@googlegr
      >> oups.com
      >>
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      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>
      >>
      >> >>>>
      >>
      >> >>>> --
      >>
      >> >>>> Chris Watkins
      >>
      >> >>>>
      >>
      >> >>>> Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to
      >> build rich, sustainable lives.
      >>
      >> >>>>
      >>
      >> >>>> identi.ca/appropedi a / twitter.com/
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      >> >>>> blogs.appropedia. org
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      >> >>>>
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      >> >>>> I like this: five.sentenc. es
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      >> >>>>
      >>
      >> >>>
      >>
      >> >>>
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      >> >>
      >>
      >> >>
      >>
      >> >> --
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    • Tomasz Czepaitis
      khm... the Fool is this one who don t keep his Dream to himself and his Neighbours but spare it to other countries, not to the world, Respectfully, T.Chappatti
      Message 2 of 2 , Oct 2, 2009
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        khm... the Fool is this one who don't keep his Dream to himself and his Neighbours but spare it to other countries, not to the world,

        Respectfully,

        T.Chappatti

        2009/10/2 <ms@...>
         

        Samwel, Jambo!

        Samwel Kongere domisi uzupieciu nameliukais. Gal Lietuva galetu paskirti
        ji ar kita zmogu Lietuvos konsulu? Ar tai siektina? Andrius Kulikauskas

        > Ok Andrius,
        > I was reading an articule one of these few days; about UN policies, a
        > comment, UN is still stuck in 1940s, while a social change is needed to
        > bring a dynamic economic sustainability. One lecturer of political
        > democracy said' this is a problematic equation of structure which need a
        > complete overwhole, some people from poor countries are a shamed of
        > themselves. Can the micro-house or hexayart shelter be useful to us?. From
        > our chat yesterday, i would be happy to stay with useful holiday makers
        > interested on sustainable agriculture and livelihood, food security than
        > sprawling migration to cities or greener pastures.
        > Just try to include our dream on the micro-house for Rusinga island, is it
        > suitable for farm house? Like the former socialist states seeking
        > diplomancy with developing countries.
        > Can Lithuania have a consulate or Embassy in Kenya to make our endeavors
        > easy?. To make our social network a reality?
        > Samwel.
        > Social Community Network/Information Coordinator,Suba/Mbita-Kenya'Aliving
        > hope is desire' When it is socially lived!
        >
        >
        > --- On Thu, 10/1/09, ms@... <ms@...> wrote:
        >
        >> From: ms@... <ms@...>
        >> Subject: [socialagriculture] Re: from a cell to global organic bottom
        >> up holistic green corporation/body
        >> To: "Global Palestine" <globalpalestine@...>
        >> Cc: socialagriculture@yahoogroups.com
        >> Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 8:33 PM
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>  
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >> Wael,
        >>
        >> I am glad that you got good response at Ned.
        >>
        >> I have just one potential funding link in Palestine and I
        >> should focus on
        >>
        >> something relevant to Minciu Sodas. I would like to work
        >> together with
        >>
        >> you. Can we think how to link your local interests and a
        >> global network?
        >>
        >> Also, did you see:
        >>
        >> http://tech.
        >> groups.yahoo. com/group/ socialagricultur e/message/
        >> 1255
        >>
        >> Would it make sense to write a proposal together?
        >>
        >> And did you see that the Uzhupis Republic might send you a
        >> micro-house as
        >>
        >> part of our network, would you be interested?
        >>
        >> http://tech.
        >> groups.yahoo. com/group/ socialagricultur e/message/
        >> 1251
        >>
        >> Greetings from Barcelona and I will be back in Lithuania
        >> and can write
        >>
        >> more actively then.
        >>
        >> Can you think how your dream might unfold organically from
        >> you and a small
        >>
        >> team and then larger over the years? And how that might be
        >> part of an
        >>
        >> economy of dreams?
        >>
        >> Andrius
        >>
        >> Andrius Kulikauskas, Minciu Sodas, http://www.ms.
        >> lt, ms@...
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >> > Hey Andrius,
        >>
        >> > please have a look to the thread and especially this
        >> part of the link
        >>
        >> > about
        >>
        >> > the discussion on ned bellow
        >>
        >> > http://www.ned.
        >> com/group/ community- general/news/ 345/31/
        >>
        >> >
        >>
        >> > <http://www.ned.
        >> com/group/ community- general/news/ 345/31/>Do you
        >> think you
        >>
        >> > can link my efforts to funds/grants giver, who are
        >> willing to support
        >>
        >> > creating such a model in Palestine?
        >>
        >> >
        >>
        >> > Regards,
        >>
        >> > Wael
        >>
        >> >
        >>
        >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
        >>
        >> > From: Global Palestine <globalpalestine@
        >> googlemail. com>
        >>
        >> > Date: Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:14 PM
        >>
        >> > Subject: Re: [OK] from a cell to global organic bottom
        >> up holistic green
        >>
        >> > corporation/ body
        >>
        >> > To: Chris Watkins <chriswaterguy@
        >> appropedia. org>
        >>
        >> >
        >>
        >> >
        >>
        >> > kinda of eco-social economy .. but the new is the
        >>
        >> > *cells-network/ web/medium
        >>
        >> > *with its regional central departments having global
        >> hub. Where the artist
        >>
        >> > and the farmer, the engineers, etc. are partners are
        >> can exchange roles
        >>
        >> > (dynamic alignment) if possible (*holistic *coverage
        >>
        >> > of sustainable economic possibilities) . Where
        >> meta-currency take action
        >>
        >> > under one *nexus hybrid trademark*. The principle are
        >> the most complex
        >>
        >> > part
        >>
        >> > to agree on, not the technology I think. But I think
        >> we will have to agree
        >>
        >> > on denominator we keep further-developing, which is
        >> for sure will much
        >>
        >> > better than any existing global neolibral
        >> corporation.
        >>
        >> > The central departments will take over the role of the
        >> so many NGOs for
        >>
        >> > example, as the involved community will cover all
        >> aspects for social
        >>
        >> > change
        >>
        >> > in there environment, which becomes within the
        >> topology I
        >>
        >> > am proposing border less.
        >>
        >> >
        >>
        >> > Do you and groups discussing the establishment of such
        >> a bottom up
        >>
        >> > corporation? If develop the theory and the modular
        >> design of the cell, we
        >>
        >> > will be able quickly find partners around the world.
        >> What I imagine is
        >>
        >> > that
        >>
        >> > lot of small ditches and streams will form new strong
        >> dynamic and new
        >>
        >> > powerful coalitions, which will dissolve the
        >> "pyramid" making it flat,
        >>
        >> > becoming a model will then become a reference can be
        >> easily adapted.
        >>
        >> >
        >>
        >> > "Planting" the cell in rural areas will
        >> reduce unemployment making being
        >>
        >> > part of the body very lucrative ..
        >>
        >> >
        >>
        >> > May be you can connect me with groups are having
        >> similar discussion. Or
        >>
        >> > give
        >>
        >> > me and recommendation ~
        >>
        >> >
        >>
        >> > Thanks
        >>
        >> > Wael
        >>
        >> >
        >>
        >> >
        >>
        >> >
        >>
        >> > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Chris Watkins
        >>
        >> > <chriswaterguy@
        >> appropedia. org
        >>
        >> >> wrote:
        >>
        >> >
        >>
        >> >> So the point is an economic solution? This may be
        >> new, yes. It's likely
        >>
        >> >> to
        >>
        >> >> be controversial, too - there are many proposed
        >> solutions. Socialism,
        >>
        >> >> and
        >>
        >> >> "ParEcon", (which I think are bad
        >> solutions) and the ideas of Amartya
        >>
        >> >> Sen
        >>
        >> >> and Joseph Stiglitz, based on freedom and on
        >> refinements of market
        >>
        >> >> economics
        >>
        >> >> (which I think are very good). Then there are
        >> local currencies, which
        >>
        >> >> seem
        >>
        >> >> interesting, but I don't understand in a deep
        >> economic way.
        >>
        >> >>
        >>
        >> >> My only thought is to read and learn from multiple
        >> perspectives, and
        >>
        >> >> recognize that the most appealing ideas and the
        >> most valuable ideas may
        >>
        >> >> be
        >>
        >> >> different things :-).
        >>
        >> >>
        >>
        >> >> Good luck with it.
        >>
        >> >>
        >>
        >> >>
        >>
        >> >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 17:25, Global Palestine
        >> <
        >>
        >> >> globalpalestine@
        >> googlemail. com> wrote:
        >>
        >> >>
        >>
        >> >>> this is elegance from you .. thanks Chris.The
        >> point is to create global
        >>
        >> >>> holistic economic body unifying the
        >> "blessed unrest" of the formal
        >>
        >> >>> world and
        >>
        >> >>> its destructive order based on modular
        >> "green production estate/cell" .
        >>
        >> >>> Isn't it a new approach?
        >>
        >> >>> Wael
        >>
        >> >>>
        >>
        >> >>>
        >>
        >> >>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Chris Watkins
        >> <
        >>
        >> >>> chriswaterguy@
        >> appropedia. org> wrote:
        >>
        >> >>>
        >>
        >> >>>> Hi Wael,
        >>
        >> >>>>
        >>
        >> >>>> I just wanted to apologize for never
        >> getting back to you. I did read
        >>
        >> >>>> your
        >>
        >> >>>> post on WiserEarth, but wasn't clear
        >> exactly what you were proposing
        >>
        >> >>>> to do
        >>
        >> >>>> that was different from what other people
        >> were doing.
        >>
        >> >>>>
        >>
        >> >>>> I've had many distractions, but am
        >> trying to focus on some specific
        >>
        >> >>>> projects to build the knowledge base on
        >> Appropedia. So I won't be
        >>
        >> >>>> heavily
        >>
        >> >>>> involved with other projects, but I will
        >> watch with interest, and give
        >>
        >> >>>> feedback and make connections when able.
        >>
        >> >>>>
        >>
        >> >>>> I just wanted to apologize and let you
        >> know what I'm doing.
        >>
        >> >>>>
        >>
        >> >>>> Cheers
        >>
        >> >>>> Chris
        >>
        >> >>>>
        >>
        >> >>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 22:39, Global
        >> Palestine <
        >>
        >> >>>> globalpalestine@
        >> googlemail. com> wrote:
        >>
        >> >>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>> Dear friends,
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>> I am proposing a project which is to
        >> develop a modular cell as basic
        >>
        >> >>>>> for
        >>
        >> >>>>> an organic bottom up economic body,
        >> where the cell operates as an
        >>
        >> >>>>> eco-system
        >>
        >> >>>>> of holistic integrated green
        >> de-centralized production. Here are
        >>
        >> >>>>> briefly
        >>
        >> >>>>> charts http://twitpic.
        >> com/hkyuf , http://twitpic.
        >> com/hkzau
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>> The first article I wrote introducing
        >> this concept as a pilot for
        >>
        >> >>>>> Palestine is here:
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>> http://www.wiserear
        >> th.org/resource/ view/f529bcd0176 bb10a8898c781885
        >> 34d71
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>> In this sense we use the free global
        >> market and economy to unify the
        >>
        >> >>>>> new
        >>
        >> >>>>> world borderless progressive dynamic
        >> to construct and sustain
        >>
        >> >>>>> humanity and
        >>
        >> >>>>> life on the planet integrating
        >> individual interaction on job-site
        >>
        >> >>>>> within
        >>
        >> >>>>> comprehensive understanding of live
        >> values.
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>> There is millions of progressive
        >> groups and organizations dealing
        >>
        >> >>>>> with
        >>
        >> >>>>> sustainable life-ecology, social and
        >> climate justice etc. All need
        >>
        >> >>>>> funds
        >>
        >> >>>>> from formal world. Many
        >> networks-meshes exist. There is many tries to
        >>
        >> >>>>> from
        >>
        >> >>>>> intellectual platform to unify the
        >> energy and build synergy, which is
        >>
        >> >>>>> very
        >>
        >> >>>>> complex approach. There is many groups
        >> developing different technical
        >>
        >> >>>>> communication solutions. There is so
        >> many efforts to build
        >>
        >> >>>>> constructive
        >>
        >> >>>>> synergy accelerate change. Meanwhile
        >> we all have or need work/jobs,
        >>
        >> >>>>> which is
        >>
        >> >>>>> mostly part of old destructive world.
        >>
        >> >>>>> The idea is to integrate what we are
        >> looking for, the life style of
        >>
        >> >>>>> sharing and cooperating, and to
        >> include the change we want to see in
        >>
        >> >>>>> ONE
        >>
        >> >>>>> vital economic corporation, belongs us
        >> all.
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>> We won’t be competing any system,
        >> but showing difference collectively
        >>
        >> >>>>> amplifying the global transformation
        >> process.
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>> The modular green production cell
        >> design together the principles can
        >>
        >> >>>>> be
        >>
        >> >>>>> the basic for global hybrid trademark
        >> and the bottom up holistic
        >>
        >> >>>>> Green
        >>
        >> >>>>> Corporation.
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>> Any person becomes a part of this
        >> organism will experience that life
        >>
        >> >>>>> is
        >>
        >> >>>>> not there only to insure short minded
        >> livelihood. Being part of the
        >>
        >> >>>>> local/regional/ global structure will
        >> pursue feeling of absence of
        >>
        >> >>>>> fear, joy
        >>
        >> >>>>> and if you want even love. The
        >> communication infrastructure between
        >>
        >> >>>>> the
        >>
        >> >>>>> cells and central departments will be
        >> the social networking platform
        >>
        >> >>>>> of the
        >>
        >> >>>>> involved communities.
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>> The modular principle is something
        >> similar to McDonald’s sites easy
        >>
        >> >>>>> to
        >>
        >> >>>>> benchmark every where in rural areas.
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>> Recent discussion is taking place @
        >>
        >> >>>>> http://www.ned.
        >> com/group/ community- general/news/ 345/
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>> I really need help to discuss such a
        >> model to see if it is a valid
        >>
        >> >>>>> idea
        >>
        >> >>>>> and how far it can be of being
        >> developed, or it might be none
        >>
        >> >>>>> applicable
        >>
        >> >>>>> delusion.
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>> It would be great if you could share
        >> your feedback to give me some
        >>
        >> >>>>> orientation.
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>> Thanks for your interest and giving a
        >> sight ~
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>> Wael
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>> --~--~------ ---~--~-- --~------
        >> ------~-- -----~--~ ----~
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        >> >>>>> This is a message from the OpenKollab
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        >>
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        >>
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        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>
        >>
        >> >>>>
        >>
        >> >>>> --
        >>
        >> >>>> Chris Watkins
        >>
        >> >>>>
        >>
        >> >>>> Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to
        >> build rich, sustainable lives.
        >>
        >> >>>>
        >>
        >> >>>> identi.ca/appropedi a / twitter.com/
        >> appropedia
        >>
        >> >>>> blogs.appropedia. org
        >>
        >> >>>>
        >>
        >> >>>> I like this: five.sentenc. es
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        >> >>>>
        >>
        >> >>>
        >>
        >> >>>
        >>
        >> >>
        >>
        >> >>
        >>
        >> >> --
        >>
        >> >> Chris Watkins
        >>
        >> >>
        >>
        >> >> Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich,
        >> sustainable lives.
        >>
        >> >>
        >>
        >> >> identi.ca/appropedi a / twitter.com/ appropedia
        >>
        >> >> blogs.appropedia. org
        >>
        >> >>
        >>
        >> >> I like this: five.sentenc. es
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        >> >>
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