RE: [Z_Scale] Re: NE-5 caboose?yes we need them
- N5C. The porthole windows were my favorite PRR cabooses.
Larry P. Card
> Subject: [Z_Scale] Re: NE-5 caboose?yes we need them[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > if there round window something we lacking <
> Here is a link to an restored NE-5 caboose at the Illinois Railway Museum:
> Round windows, a PRR caboose type? It is not an NE-5, off hand I don't know its designation.
> -Brian Chapman
> Evansdale, Iowa
> As someone who is doing a different caboose for N scale, with an eye on Z, I decided against doing rivets. . . . A half inch detail in N is slightly smaller than the thickness of a sheet of paper (.004) .003 in N, .0022 thousandths in Z. Good luck with your project. -Joe S. <Joe, maybe this issue could be called "pyschological detail" <g>. You can't see the detail, it's so small (e.g., .0022" dia. rivets), but it's there and, thus, makes you feel good knowing it's there. I might try to mill a few tiny rivets on a small square of plastic, out of curiosity, to see what results. Nice thing about the NE-5 caboose, it's welded, not riveted.
> The caboose Thomas is thinking of is the Pennsy N5c. However, the NE-5 would be a good representation of the pennsy N5, N5a and N5b. Better than the "standard" Northeastern caboose. <http://prr.railfan.net/diagrams/PRRdiagrams.html?diag=N5a-E419126A.gif&sel=cbn&sz=sm&fr=
> In the photo from the Illinois railroad museum,one window is sealed over. Wouldyour model be that way or with both open? -Dan S. <
I believe the plated window in the photo of the NE-5 was added by the CGW, to all of its 25 cabooses of this type. IIRC, the cabooses came to the CGW without stoves; when the railroad added them, the near window was plated over. I would not include the plate as part of the casting but as a separate item.
You know, looking at a list on my wall here, I promised someone I would work on a Pennsy N5. Maybe, two birds with one stone? . . . (Although I would never throw a rock at a bird).
> N5C. The porthole windows were my favorite PRR cabooses. -Larry C. <http://www.whippanyrailwaymuseum.net/exhibits/equipment/cabooses/penn-n5c-cabin-car
Larry, if a prototype ever looked more like a Lionel model than the real thing, that photo shows it!
Thanks much, fellas, for the information.
- For those interested, check
for a bunch of links including one with lots of images of NE 5 cabooses.
--- In email@example.com, "Brian" <cornbeltroute@...> wrote:
> I am cnc-cutting NE-5 cabooses (cabeese?) in TT scale (1:120) and N scale (1:160). I'd like to see what results I can get in Z scale. But, first, a couple of questions if I may:
> 1 - Does an NE-5 caboose exist in Z scale?
> 2 - The smallest end mill I have is .005" diameter, a bit larger than one scale inch in Z scale (.0045" is the correct figure?) What sort of detail level does the Z scale modeler demand - every rivet in its place, or if it can't be seen at a two foot distance forget about it? (Or something else?)
> 3 - What is the typical thickness of a car side in Z scale? That is, considering an NE-5 caboose, what thickness is acceptable for the sides and ends?
> Thanks much,
> Brian Chapman
> Evansdale, Iowa
- If anyone is interested, I could change any these to round windows rather easily.. I just need to know what it is that people are looking for.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, thomas cipelle <thomasc600@...> wrote:
> if there round window something we lacking