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  • BAZ
    MTL does not sell just the frames. And, they are quite limited on parts as this was a China manufactured part which has not fully been ramped up for production
    Message 1 of 4 , Mar 25 12:34 PM
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      MTL does not sell just the frames. And, they are quite limited on parts as this was a China manufactured part which has not fully been ramped up for production again.

      Either eBay or others or, an in decorated complete loco (almost the same price as regular ones).

      Jeff

      Sent 'from the road'

      On Mar 25, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Kevin Brady <kbvrod@...> wrote:

      > Hi Dave,all,
      > Did you try and contact Micro-Trains?
      >
      > Best,Kev
      >
      > On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Dave <lee.dave22@...> wrote:
      >
      >> **
      >>
      >>
      >> A friend of mine who owns a toy and train resale shop just sold me a
      >> Micro-Trains Gp35 in UP colors for just 10 bucks. He had bought it last
      >> year from a person selling his small Z-Scale collection. Chris and his wife
      >> were starting their own z Scale layout. To his dismay he found out the loco
      >> was dead. Turns out the previous owner didn't know about only using a
      >> Marklin or similar low voltage power pack.
      >> Well I took the little engine to the train club and started to look at it.
      >> First the old 9v battery up against the wheels, no response. (I always
      >> carry a 9 volt battery to trains shows and swap meets to check used N&Z
      >> scale locos for sale) Next I tried to pulled the shell off the engine. Took
      >> off the fuel tank first which had some brown discoloration. Shell was tight
      >> as frozen lock, never had that problem with my Gp9. Looked closed at the
      >> shell, it was a little distorted which told me that someone had toasted it
      >> with a 12 to 16v N or H.O. transformer. Poor little engine had been
      >> electrifried! Continued on, even if motor was cooked there was still the
      >> shell and trucks. Had to use jewelers screwdrivers and needle nose pliers.
      >> Split frame slowly crack into a few pieces then separated from the shell.
      >> Once I got it out noticed melted spots inside shell.
      >> Circuit board inside was stuck to the top of the shell. The springs that
      >> went from board to contacts on motor had completely melted.
      >> Took out the little Swiss motor. The shaft turned easily when I twisted
      >> the brass ends. Now for the first test, I touched wires from a 1.5v power
      >> supply, the little motor came to life! It seemed the over voltage it got
      >> zapped with before had quickly fried the springs saving the motor, but
      >> heated up the split frame fusing it to the shell.
      >> Now to check the circuit board. I took my Marklin power pack and connected
      >> wires to the board. I gently turned up the throttle and the front LED lit,
      >> then reversed the power, the back LED lit! So the board is good too! So now
      >> here's my question, where can I get a replacement split frame? I really
      >> want to restore this engine so it can happily pull trains around a Z-Scale
      >> layout and bring smiles to little kids faces at shows!
      >
      >
      >
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      > Dr. Dirt's Weathering Service
      >
      >
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    • Kevin Brady
      Hi all, Thanks for the lesson Jeff! best,Kev ... -- Dr. Dirt s Weathering Service [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      Message 2 of 4 , Mar 25 12:37 PM
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        Hi all,
        Thanks for the lesson Jeff!

        best,Kev

        On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:34 PM, BAZ <sjbazman49@...> wrote:

        > **
        >
        >
        > MTL does not sell just the frames. And, they are quite limited on parts as
        > this was a China manufactured part which has not fully been ramped up for
        > production again.
        >
        > Either eBay or others or, an in decorated complete loco (almost the same
        > price as regular ones).
        >
        > Jeff
        >
        > Sent 'from the road'
        >
        > On Mar 25, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Kevin Brady <kbvrod@...> wrote:
        >
        > > Hi Dave,all,
        > > Did you try and contact Micro-Trains?
        > >
        > > Best,Kev
        > >
        > > On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Dave <lee.dave22@...> wrote:
        > >
        > >> **
        > >>
        > >>
        > >> A friend of mine who owns a toy and train resale shop just sold me a
        > >> Micro-Trains Gp35 in UP colors for just 10 bucks. He had bought it last
        > >> year from a person selling his small Z-Scale collection. Chris and his
        > wife
        > >> were starting their own z Scale layout. To his dismay he found out the
        > loco
        > >> was dead. Turns out the previous owner didn't know about only using a
        > >> Marklin or similar low voltage power pack.
        > >> Well I took the little engine to the train club and started to look at
        > it.
        > >> First the old 9v battery up against the wheels, no response. (I always
        > >> carry a 9 volt battery to trains shows and swap meets to check used N&Z
        > >> scale locos for sale) Next I tried to pulled the shell off the engine.
        > Took
        > >> off the fuel tank first which had some brown discoloration. Shell was
        > tight
        > >> as frozen lock, never had that problem with my Gp9. Looked closed at the
        > >> shell, it was a little distorted which told me that someone had toasted
        > it
        > >> with a 12 to 16v N or H.O. transformer. Poor little engine had been
        > >> electrifried! Continued on, even if motor was cooked there was still the
        > >> shell and trucks. Had to use jewelers screwdrivers and needle nose
        > pliers.
        > >> Split frame slowly crack into a few pieces then separated from the
        > shell.
        > >> Once I got it out noticed melted spots inside shell.
        > >> Circuit board inside was stuck to the top of the shell. The springs that
        > >> went from board to contacts on motor had completely melted.
        > >> Took out the little Swiss motor. The shaft turned easily when I twisted
        > >> the brass ends. Now for the first test, I touched wires from a 1.5v
        > power
        > >> supply, the little motor came to life! It seemed the over voltage it got
        > >> zapped with before had quickly fried the springs saving the motor, but
        > >> heated up the split frame fusing it to the shell.
        > >> Now to check the circuit board. I took my Marklin power pack and
        > connected
        > >> wires to the board. I gently turned up the throttle and the front LED
        > lit,
        > >> then reversed the power, the back LED lit! So the board is good too! So
        > now
        > >> here's my question, where can I get a replacement split frame? I really
        > >> want to restore this engine so it can happily pull trains around a
        > Z-Scale
        > >> layout and bring smiles to little kids faces at shows!
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > --
        > > Dr. Dirt's Weathering Service
        > >
        > >
        > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > ------------------------------------
        > >
        > > Z-scale: minimum siZe, MAXIMUM enjoyment!
        > > Yahoo! Groups Links
        > >
        > >
        > >
        >
        >



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