Re: [Z_Scale] Re: What is the status of z scale these days
- Listen to him folks....this guys knows what he is talking about. Everything
Garth says is true.
Date: 10/1/2012 10:16:46 AM
Subject: [Z_Scale] Re: What is the status of z scale these days
There is a reason for MTL flex being shorter than 3 ft. I seem to recall
there is a limit on how long a package can be when going by parcel post
without paying a surcharge and so MTL can ship thier flex without this
problem where as with 3 ft flex I have always had to pay extra to get it
shipped to me when buying Peco or any other scale track in lengths 3 feet or
As to trouble with MTL loco OOTB I have yet to see it. I have 4 SD40-2 and
16 Gp chassis6 F 7 chassis and the only problem I had was when I dropped one
with a motor with ceramic shafts and the shock of hitting the concrete
snapped the shaft on one end. aside from that I had one of the geeps which
ran slow out of the box and I backed off on the screws hoding the truck side
rame in place and that solved that. I use the term chassis as I have used
them to power things that were not intended to operate and things I created
because there was nothing avaialble. I have done a fair bit of maintenace of
locos Marklin, MTL and AZL and I find the MTL ones to be the toughest and
easiest to fix, and the only one that I felt needed a fix out of the box
was the original F7 and I have installed many of Glenn's wheel wipers to fix
that pickup problem. I do not know if the newest version needs this help or
if the cats whisker wiper on the gear tower has been modified to lessenor
improve this problem. With all these engines they are pretty fine but you
need to have some skill to work on,or modify them and I have done pletty of
that and am still doing it at 70 and after surviving a stroke, so what more
can I say, for some of us the joy of tinkering is probably more rewarding
than taking it off the store shelf and putting it on the track and running
it. However I find their are too many who find more joy in ownership and
having sit on shelf than doing anything with it, and then complain when it
does not run, these things are like a car you leave it sitting on the
driveway to impress your friends and take it out once or twice a year on a
sunny day after washing and waxing it and youwonder why it is blowing blue
smoke. A little bit of maintenance and run it freqently and you will get a
life time of joy from it. I like to run so have modified many cars and
engines to make them run better and have even made things run that were not
intended to run on 6.5mm track. My big thing is body mounted couplers which
were a standard for MTL early on. With body mounts and metal wheels and good
track switching is now possible, but mostly Z is run and when I look at it
at shows, it is incredible how well this small scale runs and how
dependabbly it runs for many of us on layouts with really good track work
and with a bit of hand holding on layouts with track work that needs some
work. Z requires patience most of all and if you have not got that then you
are better off in another scale. If you have a great deal to complain about
the scale then you are not in the right scale so, get over it and move to
one that meets your expectations. Life is too short to be frustrated with a
scale that is not meeting your needs and that goes for alott of other things
in our lives. I came to Z scale from N scale at age 60. so nothing is
impossible if it interests you. if it doesn't then pass it by.
I especially agree with this last statement of Garth's......... "Z requires
patience most of all and if you have not got that then you are better off in
another scale. If you have a great deal to complain about the scale then you
are not in the right scale so, get over it and move to one that meets your
expectations. Life is too short to be frustrated with a scale that is not
meeting your needs and that goes for a lot of other things in our lives."
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- Hey Ray. I have done vancouver to montreal on via and its a scenery you cannot duplicate anywhere. And if anybody tells you food on trains is poor, they havent done this trip
Regards , Joel
From: Garth <garth.a.hamilton@...>
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 6:36:13 PM
Subject: [Z_Scale] Re: Cross Country R/R trip
Rainer; while I live in Canada and like Via Rail travel the trans continental train runs from Halifax to Montreal to Toronto to Vancouver, but to travel one way is more than a round trip on Amtrak from New York to Chicago on "The lake shore limited" to Los Angeles on "The Southwest Chief", then through Anaheim to Seattle and Vancouver BC on 'the Coast Starlight, and back to Seattle and then across the north states of the USA to CHicago on "The Empire Builder" first class in a bedroom. There are mnay more options and if you are from overseas then it is possible to purchase a rail pass and travel even more of the Amtrak routes.
In Canada if you arrive on Amtrak then I would suggest the Rocky mountaineer between Vancouver BC and Calgary Alberta as this is the premier service to see tn4e Canadian rockies as it is all daylight travel on this train. From Calgary or Edmonton in Alberta you can join VIa rail Canada to travel back east. the cars in Via are all the old style cars of the 60 and 70's kept in first class condition but travel on Via Rail transcontinental is in high demand so prices are higher than Amtrak generally but, particularly in the summer months. again you can get a rail pass for Via if you are from outside of Canada.
Both Amtrak and Via provide excellent help online for planning and booking travel in Canada and the USA and have all the latest in bargain fares on any route and rail passes for extended travel in addition to hotel accommodations and car rentals. There are lots of choices if you google "Rail tours North America"
here are a couple of links
USA and Canada
In Canada the Canadian operates from Toronto to Vancouver through Winnipeg and Edmonton. The Ocean Limited runs from Halifax to Montreal. There is high speed for Canada, coach service from Montreal to Toronto And Via and Amtrak operate pool train from New York to Montreal and Toronto via Niagara Falls.
--- In mailto:z_scale%40yahoogroups.com, Rainer Kuhn <rayas911@...> wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> I would like to take a trip cross country east /west either with a US or Canadian railroad.
> Does anybody know of someone who specializes in that kind of package?
> The local travel agency or AAA have nothing special to offer and for me to find info on the internet will probably take me longer than the trip in total.
> I appreciate any info you may have.
> Thank you
> Ray Kuhn
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