Re: [Z_Scale] Re: What is the status of z scale these days
- hate to dispute you but N & Z are worlds apart. I was in N gauge from 1993 until 2006/7 and still have some of my N left. I now am in Z and have been it since 2009. I can not ever remember in N scale having to "bump push a new engine to get it to run brand new out of the box. With all. of my Z engines I have had to do this, sometimes to no avail. Also in regards to continous cleaning of the track, I never had to do that either. I am not knocking Z but you need to know what you are talking about befor opening mouth and inserting foot. Ask one who does it all the time. Z has a long way to go before it catches N or comes close. I believe if we could get Kato into the Z market that would be one great big help. Lee Barry CEO LZPMRR Z_SCALE2@...
--- On Sat, 9/29/12, Alan Cox <alan@...> wrote:
From: Alan Cox <alan@...>
Subject: Re: [Z_Scale] Re: What is the status of z scale these days
Date: Saturday, September 29, 2012, 9:09 PM
> I am still waiting for the GP35s I sent to be repainted from silver roofs to grey 2 years ago.
> but lets change the subject and talk about some inane stuff.
> I give up.
The MTL Z out of the box is a nice trainset - it goes, it runs nicely.
Liveries and decals are interesting but it's perfectly possible to make
your own. Likewise you can solder your own code 30 or code 40 Z gauge
trackwork. In fact the scale being very coarse makes it rather easier
than finescale work.
I have see beautiful stuff in Z, but to achieve that level of modelling
its a constructors scale. It means painting your own roofs, etching your
own wagons, soldering your own track and making your own decals from
scratch and/or a certain amount of cunning artistry to hide stuff like
the toy train trackwork.
To me that's not neccessarily a problem - my main Z layout is small
compact and firmly in the trainset category trackwise. I don't care as
it's fun to operate and convenient.
I do my finer scale work in N primarily because I'm modelling mostly UK
outline and also stuff like pre 1900s where even in N motorising is
I don't think N and Z are as different as you make out. Most out of the
box N gauge has errors, the default track is so/so (serious hardcore
modellers work to fiNe or 2fs not to N). Top end N scale modellers are
likewise doing major reworks, weathering and repaints on RTR products in
order to get the standards needed, Likewise with HO. Anyone can put
together an HO trainset, but at that size to look *really* good you need
to be doing Proto-87.
- Hey Ray. I have done vancouver to montreal on via and its a scenery you cannot duplicate anywhere. And if anybody tells you food on trains is poor, they havent done this trip
Regards , Joel
From: Garth <garth.a.hamilton@...>
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 6:36:13 PM
Subject: [Z_Scale] Re: Cross Country R/R trip
Rainer; while I live in Canada and like Via Rail travel the trans continental train runs from Halifax to Montreal to Toronto to Vancouver, but to travel one way is more than a round trip on Amtrak from New York to Chicago on "The lake shore limited" to Los Angeles on "The Southwest Chief", then through Anaheim to Seattle and Vancouver BC on 'the Coast Starlight, and back to Seattle and then across the north states of the USA to CHicago on "The Empire Builder" first class in a bedroom. There are mnay more options and if you are from overseas then it is possible to purchase a rail pass and travel even more of the Amtrak routes.
In Canada if you arrive on Amtrak then I would suggest the Rocky mountaineer between Vancouver BC and Calgary Alberta as this is the premier service to see tn4e Canadian rockies as it is all daylight travel on this train. From Calgary or Edmonton in Alberta you can join VIa rail Canada to travel back east. the cars in Via are all the old style cars of the 60 and 70's kept in first class condition but travel on Via Rail transcontinental is in high demand so prices are higher than Amtrak generally but, particularly in the summer months. again you can get a rail pass for Via if you are from outside of Canada.
Both Amtrak and Via provide excellent help online for planning and booking travel in Canada and the USA and have all the latest in bargain fares on any route and rail passes for extended travel in addition to hotel accommodations and car rentals. There are lots of choices if you google "Rail tours North America"
here are a couple of links
USA and Canada
In Canada the Canadian operates from Toronto to Vancouver through Winnipeg and Edmonton. The Ocean Limited runs from Halifax to Montreal. There is high speed for Canada, coach service from Montreal to Toronto And Via and Amtrak operate pool train from New York to Montreal and Toronto via Niagara Falls.
--- In mailto:z_scale%40yahoogroups.com, Rainer Kuhn <rayas911@...> wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> I would like to take a trip cross country east /west either with a US or Canadian railroad.
> Does anybody know of someone who specializes in that kind of package?
> The local travel agency or AAA have nothing special to offer and for me to find info on the internet will probably take me longer than the trip in total.
> I appreciate any info you may have.
> Thank you
> Ray Kuhn
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