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Re: [Z_Scale] Garth-Track

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  • Cliff Smith
    Donn, what are you doing for a controller?  (getting ready to send out the track to you) Cliff SSgt USMC, Retired 08 TITAN 86 Yamaha FZX-R Z scale trains
    Message 1 of 2 , Nov 23, 2011
      Donn, what are you doing for a controller?  (getting ready to send out the track to you)

      SSgt USMC, Retired
      '08 TITAN
      '86 Yamaha FZX-R
      Z scale trains

      From: donn <donn.album@...>
      To: z_scale@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 4:46 PM
      Subject: Re: [Z_Scale] Garth-Track

      Thanks, Garth, for your info. Right now all I have are rolling stock and 1 engine with Marklin couplers. Don't have any MT cars but I think I have one coming I got off Ebay. Haven't got it yet. Don't have any track yet.
      http://www.flickr.com/photos/waysidejourney (art)
      http://alongthewayside.blogspot.com/ (art)
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Garth
      To: z_scale@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 8:07 AM
      Subject: [Z_Scale] Re: Alan-Track

      You can get really very small. the smallest curve from a commercial sectional track maker is Rokuhan's R75mm R=Radius and if you add one straight 110mm that means your oval of track 140mm wide by 115mm long and you can run a Marklin 0-6-0 plus 2 40 ft box cars. add a caboose and you have a train that takes up half the the loop of track. I do not know if the Marklin cars with Marklin style couplers work on this small radius of track as I do not own any but Micro trains cars with truck mounted couplers do work on this oval and I put a video up on You-tube showing the loop with two different engines running on it. However for practical purposes the smallest curve that most things will run on is the R145mm curve and some things will also run on R120mm curves like the Micro trains Geeps. The two standard curves that most of use for layouts are R195mm and R220mm which gives us a double track mainwith inside and outside curves. Rokuhan Track gives you the
      option of going from F70mm to R270mm and straights of 110mm , 220mm or 55mm in length.

      cheers Garth

      --- In z_scale@yahoogroups.com, "donn" <donn.album@...> wrote:
      > Thanks, Alan for your reply.
      > I see curved track listed 45 degree 95mm, 170mm and 195mm. 30 degree listed at 270mm. Have no idea what this means. Any help?
      > Right now, I'm looking at trying to set something up as small as I can get it. Maybe later I can expand a little, but right now, don't have much room. I see some in brief cases. Any idea what size curved track is used? That's about the size I'm looking at to get started.
      > Don't have an engine yet, probably won't for some time as they are expensive. Maybe I can find someone to trade for some N scale engines/cars. I'm retired, on a fixed income, so my extra $$ for model trains is limited.
      > The rolling stock I have coming include 2 40' box cars(they look like they are 40'), a Marklin Mini-club 8639 box car with brakeman's cab, and a Marklin 8680 caboose (coming from German). From the photos, these are smaller than the 40' boxcars.
      > Thanks, again, for the reply.
      > Donn
      > http://www.flickr.com/photos/waysidejourney (art)
      > http://alongthewayside.blogspot.com/ (art)
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Alan Cox
      > To: z_scale@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 6:03 PM
      > Subject: Re: [Z_Scale] New Member
      > On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 21:14:11 -0000
      > "Donn" <donn.album@...> wrote:
      > > Hi all,
      > > I just joined this group to find out more about Z scale and how to get started. I am 76, live in northern Florida. I had a fairly good size N scale layout but it got too big for where I am now living. Have to downsize. Have plenty of N scale rolling stock and 4 engines which I hope to sell or trade so I can get more into Z scale.
      > Z may not actually save you space - it depends on the shape of space a
      > lot. There are no real Z equivalents of the sharp switches you can get in
      > N, and less choice in sharp curves (or stock that handles it).
      > For a big layout Z definitely comes out smaller and you get longer
      > trains, in smaller spaces Z often comes out thinner but longer (and
      > more more realistic looking geometrywise) for the same stuff, rather than
      > "smaller"
      > It's changing a bit as the newer Japanese track includes some sharper
      > components but it's worth looking at the geometry of the switches in
      > particular as they are long and shallow.
      > > I have 4 freight cars and some straight track to set the cars on, I bought off EBay and am awaiting their arrival.
      > >
      > > I'm confused about the curved track, however. Don't know what to get to at least get a small oval or circle to begin with. Hope someone can help me out.
      > Three out of the box choices I can think of
      > - Märklin. European style sleepers, reasonable range of bits but pricy.
      > - MTL. Has built in roadbed (except the flex) which some love or hate, has
      > US style sleepers so looks far more 'North American'. More limited
      > range, some bits seem to be rather hard to find. Teething problems with
      > non MTL locomotives and early switches.
      > - Rokuhan. Japanese style roadbed track that looks a lot like N scale
      > Kato that went through a shrinking machine. Turnout motors, very
      > rapidly growing range of parts. Japanese style so matches Europe/Japan
      > practise not US.
      > All of them have rail heights and thicknesses that are way cruder than
      > things like Atlas Code 40, so the other option for the perfectionists is
      > building your own with code 30 or code 40 rail. Fun but very hard work !
      > Alan
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