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RE: [Z_Scale] Re: Marklin vs. MTL

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  • Edward Scullin
    True but it is in sad shape, but they let you climb all over and through it.  I love the RS-3 that thy have #300. Ed ... From: Larry Card
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      True but it is in sad shape, but they let you climb all over and through it.  I love the RS-3 that thy have #300.
      Ed

      --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Larry Card <lpcard@...> wrote:

      From: Larry Card <lpcard@...>
      Subject: RE: [Z_Scale] Re: Marklin vs. MTL
      To: "Z group" <z_scale@yahoogroups.com>
      Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 9:46 PM
















       











      Details, details. They have a GG1 there as well.



      V/R

      Larry P. Card

      Franklinton NC

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      > No! That is a real locomotive trying to look like a diesel. The 1218 is a real steam engine, and looks it

      > Ed S.



      > > I have been to the VA transportation museum in Roanoke

      > > where lives the most beautiful steam locomotive ever made,

      > > the N&W J class 611.

      > >

      > > V/R

      > > Larry P. Card

      > > Franklinton NC

      > > _________

      > > ./__________\.

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      > > > To: z_scale@yahoogroups.com

      > > > CC: Z_SCALE2@...

      > > > From: z_scale2@...

      > > > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:12:47 -0800

      > > > Subject: Re: [Z_Scale] Re: Marklin vs. MTL

      > > >

      > > > Ed,

      > > > I live in Bristol,Va. I have been to the

      > > transportation museum there quite a few

      > > > times. I want to go to it this coming summer. I

      > > haven't been since they built

      > > > the Link Museum, but I have three of his books , he

      > > signed them for me when he

      > > > was in Abingdon,Va. a few years back. If you are in

      > > Bristol look me up my name

      > > > is Lee Barry 276-494-0118. I have a 37x27 Z scale

      > > layout that Jim O'Connell made

      > > > me (July to first week in Oct 2010. I carried it to

      > > the show in Bluefield this

      > > > past Nov. I wanted to go to the Galax show but my wife

      > > and I had already plans

      > > > to go to our daughters' over the Thanksgiving weekend.

      > > I will go to both next

      > > > fall and maybe also to the show in NC in Nov., the

      > > good Lord willing. Well I'll

      > > > quit wasting your time. I wish there was a Zscale club

      > > close to Bristol but I

      > > > haven't found one.

      > > >

      > > >

      > > >

      > > >

      > > >

      > > > ________________________________

      > > > From: Edward Scullin <sculline@...>

      > > > To: z_scale@yahoogroups.com

      > > > Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 4:35:48 PM

      > > > Subject: Re: [Z_Scale] Re: Marklin vs. MTL

      > > >

      > > >

      > > > One thing that I don't think has been addressed so

      > > far, The track plan and

      > > > buildings could serve both periods. Use Marklin

      > > to run steamers with short cars

      > > > and MTL or AZL to run more modern diesels with longer

      > > cars.Ed ScullinRoanoke VA

      > > >

      > > > --- On Wed, 1/19/11, GAS <gas.1969@...>

      > > wrote:

      > > >

      > > > From: GAS <gas.1969@...>

      > > > Subject: [Z_Scale] Re: Marklin vs. MTL

      > > > To: z_scale@yahoogroups.com

      > > > Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 8:23 AM

      > > >

      > > >

      > > >

      > > > I thank everyone for the valuable incite you have

      > > provided me with. I have done

      > > > many hours of research on track. On the grounds that

      > > all track is usable and

      > > > acceptable, the deciding factor comes down to molded

      > > road bed. More a case of

      > > > the lack of molded road bed. Marklin is the only

      > > manufacturer, that I have seen,

      > > > that does not mold road bed on the track. As a serious

      > > modeler I wish to

      > > > fabricate my own road bed. The eastern PRR has many

      > > bridges where roadbed would

      > > > look out of place. In my youth I built a N-Scale from

      > > scratch. Laid the road

      > > > bed, then the ties and spiked the rails. I am pursuing

      > > this to soak up time and

      > > > keep me out of the trouble.

      > > >

      > > > When I saw the Marklin Large American Super Deluxe

      > > Starter set 81835, I nearly

      > > > did a back flip. Mikado (1914-1958) and F7 (1947-1951)

      > > were both in use by PRR.

      > > > I can adjust my time frame to accommodate this. My

      > > goal has always been the

      > > > transition period. Repainting is not an issue to me,

      > > more of a challenge. I can

      > > > sell off the passenger cars to offset buying the right

      > > ones. The price tag is

      > > > out of my range so it will set me back a couple

      > > paychecks.

      > > >

      > > > Thanks again

      > > >

      > > > GAS (Glen)

      > > >

      > > > --- In z_scale@yahoogroups.com,

      > > de Champeaux Dominique <ddechamp71@...> wrote:

      > > >

      > > > >

      > > >

      > > > > To what is written below we could add

      > > Micro-Trains doesn't release the curved

      > > > >turnout. For the time beeing it's only available

      > > at Marklin's. However I've

      > > > >heard of recurrent derailment problems with

      > > Micro-Trains motive power using that

      > > > >brand of turnout (smaller wheel flange on

      > > Micro-Trains rolling stock?).

      > > >

      > > > > Dom

      > > >

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      > > >

      > > > > --- En date de : Mer 19.1.11, Uwe Liermann

      > > <maillist@...> a écrit :

      > > >

      > > > >

      > > >

      > > > >

      > > >

      > > > > De: Uwe Liermann <maillist@...>

      > > >

      > > > > Objet: Re: [Z_Scale] Marklin vs. MTL

      > > >

      > > > > ä: "GAS" <z_scale@yahoogroups.com>

      > > >

      > > > > Date: Mercredi 19 janvier 2011, 14h55

      > > >

      > > > >

      > > >

      > > > >

      > > >

      > > > > Â

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      > > >

      > > > > Hello Glen,

      > > >

      > > > >

      > > >

      > > > > > My question is, will Marklin locos run on

      > > MTL track? Are there power

      > > >

      > > > > > problems, or other issues with standards.

      > > >

      > > > >

      > > >

      > > > > I use both kinds of track, and all my rolling

      > > stock (Maerklin, MTL and

      > > >

      > > > > FR) is running on both systems without any

      > > problem.

      > > >

      > > > >

      > > >

      > > > > Which system you want to use depends on what you

      > > will build. The MTL

      > > >

      > > > > system follows the same track geometry as the

      > > Maerklin system, that

      > > >

      > > > > means that you can almost any track plan made for

      > > Maerklin tracks use

      > > >

      > > > > with MTL tracks. Almost because there are two

      > > details that might cause

      > > >

      > > > > a problem. First Maerklin has more different

      > > sections like the 55mm

      > > >

      > > > > and 25mm straight track. If you need those length

      > > you have to

      > > >

      > > > > customize the MTL section. Also missing at MTL is

      > > the 30° 220mm radii

      > > >

      > > > > curve. And MTL has no 145mm curve. I believe that

      > > MTL sooner or later

      > > >

      > > > > will bring those sections too (well maybe not the

      > > 145mm curve...).

      > > >

      > > > >

      > > >

      > > > > Some issues are with the turn outs:

      > > >

      > > > >

      > > >

      > > > > First you need one section that is cut out at one

      > > corner because

      > > >

      > > > > otherwise the roadbed of those two sections

      > > following the turn out are

      > > >

      > > > > blocking each other. But in the turn out sets the

      > > 110mm straight track

      > > >

      > > > > is cut out for that.

      > > >

      > > > >

      > > >

      > > > > Second at MTL the turn out drive of the remote

      > > controlled turn outs

      > > >

      > > > > sits on the outside of the straight side of the

      > > turn out. At Maerklin

      > > >

      > > > > the turn out drive is placed inside the curved

      > > part. This can give you

      > > >

      > > > > problems if you have parallel lines or two turn

      > > outs side by side. (I

      > > >

      > > > > would recommend a undertable drive anyway. In my

      > > opinion the MTL drive

      > > >

      > > > > looks even worse then the Maerklin one...)

      > > >

      > > > >

      > > >

      > > > > The power routing in the MTL turn outs are

      > > different from the Maerklin

      > > >

      > > > > ones. This will cause a problem if you try to cut

      > > open a turn out with

      > > >

      > > > > the engine by just driving through the turn out.

      > > The engine will stop

      > > >

      > > > > on the turn out or perhaps even cause a short (I

      > > haven't tested on the

      > > >

      > > > > short yet). A Maerklin turn out won't have any

      > > problems if you go

      > > >

      > > > > through a turn out which is set the other way.

      > > >

      > > > >

      > > >

      > > > > Lately a third manufacturer came up with a

      > > Z-scale track system. It is

      > > >

      > > > > almost like the MTL system, but it has more

      > > sections. The manufacturer

      > > >

      > > > > is Rokuhan: http://www.rokuhan.com/english/

      > > >

      > > > >

      > > >

      > > > > It is possible to connect those track systems,

      > > just with a few small

      > > >

      > > > > adaptations. The Maerklin rails are higher, so

      > > you have to grind down

      > > >

      > > > > those rails a bit at the connection point for

      > > smooth running. But

      > > >

      > > > > then the engine will run over the connection even

      > > when you don't do

      > > >

      > > > > that. It will just have a little bump in the

      > > ride. I haven't tested

      > > >

      > > > > the Rokuhan tracks yet.

      > > >

      > > > >

      > > >

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      > > > > GreetingZ

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      > > > > Uwe

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