Re: [z_scale] Transformers and DCC for Z
- hi there
DCC is a definate goer for Z scale :)))) i use a digitrax chief and winlok
as for the transformer i have a 16v ac as the system knocks it down to 12 on
the rails and the decoders limit the max voltage down to 9 ( but this is
settable to any voltage you like) the decoders i use are digitrax's DZ121
and dn121 ... i also have transponding and block detection running.... to me
dcc is the best thing since sliced bread and i would not go back to dc for
any reason . dcc opens up a whole new way of running your trains ( notice i
didnt say layout as its the trains you drive not the track).. i will soon be
putting up a how to install a decoder on my web page (
www.nccnet.co.uk/ahellary) .. so that is as soon as i have worked out my new
digital camera :)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: [z_scale] Transformers and DCC for Z
> Welcome to Z, Greg:
> > I'm new to the group and Z scale. I've been able to find a lot of info
> > the net about Z, except for who makes transformers (other than
> > was just on MRC's site and found nothing for Z. Is Marklin the only
> > in town?
> No. MicroTrains sells a Z scale power pack for around $30 (plus or minus
> depending on where you shop).
> Its actually an MRC 1300 that has a new front panel over it to
> block the throttle knob at the 2:00 (14:00) point in its rotation. An
> unmodified MRC 1300 puts out 13volts at full rotation. The mechanical
> keeps it from putting out "too much" voltage.
> A significant number of Z scalers use MRC 1300's and 2800's (double
> version, few more watts) to run Z trains. We ran the monster layout (16
> miles) at the National Train Show in St. Louis on a MRC 2800. It didn't
> bother anything we put on the track over the 3 days of continuous running.
> The "processed" waveform they put out will make "many" of the Z
> do slightly better at slow speeds when compared to pure DC packs. Mind
> 3 pole motors are stubborn beasts and will never run well at "creep"
> 5 pole motors are an entirely different story - they "creep" very, very
> If you do use a 1300 or 2800, you must provide some method of preventing
> knob from going past the 2:00 (14:00) position, or your diesels may become
> steamers very, very quickly. Mind you, at the high noon position of the
> throttle, most Marklin loco's are doing a scale 310 miles per hour, so
> blocking it doesn't "cost" you any usable range anyway.
> And you can really use ANY pure DC power pack, so long as you mechanically
> block the throttle so that it cannot apply more than 8 volts to the rails.
> Don't forget to do that. Accidents happen. Trains are expensive to
> I'd suggest you use the "search" feature of this group for the words "5
> motor" and "pulse" to learn more (good, bad, and ugly). There have been
> many, many posts on this topic in the past.
> > I am considering DCC if it's feasible
> Check the welcome page to this list, for a link to a Z Scale DCC list
> with folks who play with DCC all year long.
> Bill Kronenberger
> "Z" WARNING! HANDLE WITH CARE! Highly addictive in Small DoseZ!
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Look at the DCC faq on this list and it explains how to put
DCC in a Mt F7
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wild Zontar" <wildzontar@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 1:15 AM
Subject: [z_scale] Transformers and DCC for Z
> Hi all,
> I'm new to the group and Z scale. I've been able to find a lot of info on
> the net about Z, except for who makes transformers (other than Marklin)?
> was just on MRC's site and found nothing for Z. Is Marklin the only show
> in town? From what I've read, the Marklin transformers aren't that great
> at slow speeds. Is this true? What other brands are being used for Z?
> I don't have a layout at this point, or any Z equipment, I'm just in the
> early planning stages. I am considering DCC if it's feasible for Z and
> noted above) the transformers available for Z. Another concern about DCC
> is getting the decoders into the locos. I read one article (at Z:220.com)
> about converting a Marklin loco to DCC, however, I anticipate running
> Micro-Trains locos, since my interest is North American diesel. Anybody
> convert a MTL to DCC? Are there any plans by MTL or Marklin to
> locos as DCC ready or with decoders, like they have with N scale locos?
> Any info, advice, or comments would be appreciated.