RE : Re: [Z_Scale] Re: Undecorated MTL GP35
- My idea about that question, as I'm modelling modern
era. I believe there are currently far more GP7/GP9
running on shortlines or as switchers on spurs, than
GP35s whose roster seems now to be very lower, except
some samples still running on class I or class II
railroads, such as BNSF or MRL.
What I mean: the markets seem different.
On one side, not so many companies, old or present,
On the other side, a myriad of big operators (old era)
and small operators (modern era) running GP7/9s.
I believe it's very unlikely to see this sample for
example, either from AZL and from MTL:
That's why I believe maybe the market would allow
undec GP7/9s where there is few room for an undec
Just an idea.
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Yes, just as it is in the other scales, I imagine there are relatively
few folks who want to devote the time and effort to painting,
lettering, and otherwise decorating their own locomotives and rolling
stock. To be sure, there are some folks who enjoy applying that kind
of customized treatment to their items (or having someone else do it
for them), but I suspect the total number is relatively low.
And in Z, I imagine the percentage is even lower than it might be in
some of the larger scales, which are generally easier to work with
when it comes to painting and detailing. And, of course, there's the
matter of suitable decals and lettering. I used to do a lot of
"customizing" of my trains in N scale and O gauge, but probably would
not care to attempt it in Z scale.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Loren Snyder" <ljsnyder@...> wrote:
> Considering the fact that an undecorated costs the same as a PRR
Geep, as I
> see it, the two advantages to painting an undecorated is that you
can do the
> rails much easier, and you don't have to go through the stripping
> It's true, not everyone has the talent to do it themselves so I
> is where the immediate need may be.....that of providing good custom
> schemes and decals for those who want a particular road name. Sound
> to you?
> -------Original Message-------
> From: Allan Miller
> Date: 11/30/06 15:18:21
> To: email@example.com
> Subject: [Z_Scale] Re: Undecorated MTL GP35
> >What I find troubling is this general belief
> > that undec GP35 sales are poor. Poor compared to what?
> Personally, that wouldn't surprise me at all. Yes, there are people
> on this and other forums who have the skills and equipment to properly
> paint and decorate Z models, but I assume that the vast majority of
> hobbyists in all scales prefer to buy ready-to-run items in their
> preferred roadnames. Those few (relatively speaking) who have created
> their own paint schemes and graphics are generally content to strip an
> existing shell and then redecorate it to their liking.
> There were a few vocal folks here who were pleading for undecorated
> GEEP shells and MTL fulfilled their wishes. Now, I do hope those same
> folks are forking over the dollars to deplete that inventory for MTL.
> If that doesn't happen, I imagine MTL will be rather cautious about
> producing these undecorated shells in the future.
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Next to that, the GP7 and GP 9 have always been true kitbashers both in real life and in modelling:
In a B configuration, with or without Dynamics, with or without torpedo's on top, with or without a low short hood, company custom extra's like bell and headlights, spark arrestors, winterhatches, rebuild engines by Cat with extra stacks, in modern era there come ditchlights and so forth. Maybe the most extreme, but isn't there a GP9 rebuild into a Fuel Tender....??
A friend of mine has over a dozen different GP9's all in his own RRcolors, I know he got a little enthousiastic and created some very fictioius versions, but still, on a GP 9 it is believeable. It wouldn't on a GP 35.
See? A true kitbasher and therefor the market for this machine is very different from the GP35 concerning undecs. On the other hand I can understand the AZL position about this and kitbashers know exactly what to do with paint they don't want. I will wait for MTL to bring out the GP9 and hope for the undecversion. I have already been searching some photo archives to find details for two kitbashprjects.
The AZL machines look very good and are a great contribution to this nice hobby, don't let there be any misunderstanding.
Have a great weekend searching an planning (and finding the bucks)
To: firstname.lastname@example.orgFrom: ddechamp71@...: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 09:54:05 +0100Subject: RE : Re: [Z_Scale] Re: Undecorated MTL GP35
My idea about that question, as I'm modelling modernera. I believe there are currently far more GP7/GP9running on shortlines or as switchers on spurs, thanGP35s whose roster seems now to be very lower, exceptsome samples still running on class I or class IIrailroads, such as BNSF or MRL.What I mean: the markets seem different.On one side, not so many companies, old or present,running GP35s.On the other side, a myriad of big operators (old era)and small operators (modern era) running GP7/9s.I believe it's very unlikely to see this sample forexample, either from AZL and from MTL:http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=165674That's why I believe maybe the market would allowundec GP7/9s where there is few room for an undecGP35.Just an idea.Dominique__________________________________________________________ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com
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