First Microtrains experience
- Hi all,
finally I have just bought a MicroTrains starter set (UP F7), it is
rare here in Italy and it should be quite old (mid 90s?) althought it
is still new with a closed yellow box.
I was really disappointed when saw that it was impossible to run the
MTL F7 in my desktop-non-fixed-hence-non-reliable layout.
I mean the MTL F7 blocked at every turnout, doubleslip or small
defect of the track position, same layout where my Marklin locos ran
almost perfectly during last week-end.
Mmmmmh.... it seems to go better clockwise than counterclockwise....
mmmmh.... finally looking at the wheels support I discovered that
they could not move freely due a contact with the bottom end of the
stairs just below the cabin doors...
Once I slightly enlarged the 4 stairs extension over the wheels
things went better and I started to appreciate the MicroTrains
Is it normal or just one case?
Well, as I have read in the group the differences with Marklin locos
are really important, first of all the weight, the power pulling cars
and on climbing tracks and their smooth running (at least respect of
my Marklin F7 Milw.Road that usually "jump" at start).
So, since you expert said that MTL F7s are more similar to the
prototype than Marklin ones (shorter, really shorter) I can now say
that they are probably really better... so I will join this party ;-)
Just my opinion... at least until the next stop on a turnout...
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [z_scale] opinions on f units
> > Could I get a few opinions contrasting the MT F units
> > with the Marklin ones? Smoother running, reliability, etc.?
> Since beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I'll stay with facts,
> Weight: Marklin about 0.7 ounces
> MicroTrains about 2.6 ounces
> Pulling power: Marklin about 20 US type cars on the flat and level
> MicroTrains about 50 US type cars on the flat
> (estimates for a single F7)
> Max Voltage: Marklin 8 volts
> MicroTrains 10 volts
> (no one ever runs at max voltage, its too fast
> you like slot cars that resemble trains)
> Gear ratio: While I've never counted the teeth in the gears,
> that the MicroTrains unit has a planetary gear
> 30:1 between the motor and the worm gear. That
> quite a difference in speed between MT and
> any given voltage. It also explains the pulling
> of the MT unit (plus its additional weight).
> Lifespan: Both MT and Marklin can handle 10 plus years of heavy
> running (hours on end) provided you regularly
> them (clean, oil, replace brushes, etc.) I
> you *can* wear either of them out.
> Creeping: Since Marklin has introduced the 5 pole motors, I'm
> certain that MT has the edge on "creeping"
> the past, that extra 30:1 gearing gave MT a slow
> creep the 3-pole Marlin's couldn't quite match.
> But I've got a 88982 with a 5-pole motor that
> will take almost 3 minutes to travel one inch.
> Paint: Half say MT is better. Half say Marklin is
> I must be blind. I can't see much difference in
> Cost: MT's are about $80 mail order. Marklins are somewhat
> more and it pays to shop around.
> QA/QC: In the last years, both MT and Marklin seem to have
> increasing problems with wheel gauge. Be sure to
> check yours with a gauge (MT sells one). It also
> to pop the shell and just look for "opps" someone
> the factory left for you to find. But that's the
> in almost all brands, all scales,
> are not common in either brand, but do
> I have both MT and Marklin. I run them both to death and love them
> Subjective: If you plan on a smaller layout and shorter trains, it
> matter which brand you pick. If you want to run long trains, MT
> the edge (our longest train so far had 96 cars in it with two MT's
> Hope this helps. Others may have other comparisons and experiences.
> Bill Kronenberger