Re: attn: Rob Kluz, now attn: Ole
- Ole Rosted:
Before you get ME Roasted, I must offer some clairifications.
> I have come to this conclusion too. It is not the rolling stock! AllNow I didn't ever say that Marklin turnouts were "lousy". They are
> evil is coming from the tracks. Turnouts in particular. They are a
> complete disaster, but I guess that Bill Kronenberger is right, when
> he suggests, that lousy construction lends itself to mass production.
mass-produced just like Atlas/Peco (and others) in N & HO scales. Same dead
frogs and the usual Scratch-and-Pray electrical circuits.
What I did say, is that you need to put the obvious short comings on your
routine cleaning duties list.
1. It only takes a second to wipe all the surfaces on a turnout down with
alcholol, and to give the electrical S&P junctions a short shot of TV tuner
cleaner if they need it.
2. A visual inspection takes another 30 seconds with those glasses you own
that look like the bottoms of coke bottles.
3. Not a big deal. But if you let it go for a number of months, it becomes
a big deal for running trains. You'll spend more time than that doing the
periodic cleaning of the non-turnout track. In any scale.
> Nothing much. Smooth running of 0-6-0s even at loooow speed on *all*Suggestion #1: Run your finger over each rail on your entire layout. If you
> tracks - turnouts and crossings included.
can feel a lump, bump, or sharp anything with your index finger, so will the
train. Fix it. Run your finger over it again.
Suggestion #2: Get a track guage. MicroTrains sells one, BLW sells one (for
Nn3), and there may be others. You will be surprised how fast your track can
get out of gauge, usually in the "too narrow" direction. When this happens,
the trains will be lifted up off the rails as their flanges get caught in the
"pinch". Not only does this invite derailments, it is not good for
electrical connections either.
Suggestion #3: Do not assume that just because Z locos and cars can
negotiate small curves in the horizontal plane, that they are able to
negotiate sharp radius curves in the verticle plane. Look at your trackwork
from the side. It your track "puckers up" at joints, or you have bent it
over the top of a mountain or down in a valley, you are a prime candidate for
G scale due to fustration in any small scale.
Try to maintain something like a 8 inch / 20cm curve in the verticle,
minimum. On second thought, don't bother to measure it. If you can SEE it,
its too much. Same rules apply to 1:1 trains.
PS - Your rail joiners left Houston today. We will all expect a complete
analysis on Marklin versus Peco rail joiners in a week or so. <grin>
On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:16:45 EDT, you wrote:
>Now I didn't ever say that Marklin turnouts were "lousy". They are
>mass-produced just like Atlas/Peco (and others) in N & HO scales. Same dead
>frogs and the usual Scratch-and-Pray electrical circuits.
I am very, very sorry that I inadvertenly expressed myself in a
manner, that could leave the groupmembers with the impression
that *you* had called the M turnouts lousy
You didn't call Marklin tracks lousy! I did! - and I mean it!
I a letter to this group I have said, that I don't mind using money on
the Z hobby, but it makes me mad, to buy expensive gear that later -
when put to use - fails completely.
M parts are rather expensive, but I wouldn't mind paying 2, 3 or 4
times as much for items of *indisputable* quality. Rather that, than
be wasting my money on mere toys!
I do clean my tracks as you suggest. My problems are no longer coming
from dirty tracks! (at least not all of them :-) ) Problems are
related to mechanical mismatches around the track: rails that do not
join close even if the little claws are engaged fully, rounded
"shoulders" on rail-ends etc. I will use soldered rails whereever
possible in the future. (and then there are the turnouts :-( )
>Suggestion #2: Get a track guage. MicroTrains sells one, BLW sells one (for
>Nn3), and there may be others. You will be surprised how fast your track can
>get out of gauge, usually in the "too narrow" direction. When this happens,
>the trains will be lifted up off the rails as their flanges get caught in the
>"pinch". Not only does this invite derailments, it is not good for
>electrical connections either.
I was not aware of this situation, but I will get myself a track gauge
next time I visit my Z-store - or I will order one.
>Suggestion #3: Do not assume that just because Z locos and cars can
>negotiate small curves in the horizontal plane, that they are able to
>negotiate sharp radius curves in the verticle plane.
The only places where my tracklayout is not horizontally plane are
where my turning loop (running 40 mm (2") diagonally above the main
layout) lands on the main track level.
Though not very steep I consider the landings to be "danger zones" and
awaits the time, where my skills have developed to a degree where it
will be possible for me to curve a flextrack both in the horizontal
plane and the vertical as well - without destroying rails and tiers.
Or I could change my layout (once more) to allow for longer straight
landings with only minor vertical (and no horizontal) curvature.
>PS - Your rail joiners left Houston today. We will all expect a complete
>analysis on Marklin versus Peco rail joiners in a week or so. <grin>
Thank you!! I'm looking forward to get them as I have given up working
with flextracks using M rail joiners. Thank you for your - as allways
good - advise!
regards Ole Rosted, Denmark