RE: Extremely Useful web sites attn. Anders L.
- Hi Ole!
Well, digital control is when something is controlled digitally, like by a
With CTI you use stationary decoders, that also can be assigned to one
locomotive and "follow" that loco whereever it goes. The stationary decoders
are called "Smart Cab" by CTI and are like a digitally controlled speed dial
where you can by software configure how "heavy" your train is so it start
and stops smothly etc.
I paste the text for the Smart Cab from CTIs webb:
"CTI's Smart Cab Module complements the capabilities of the Train-Brain.
Smart Cab is a fully automated, computer controlled throttle that interfaces
to your PC. With Smart Cab, train speed, direction, momemtum, and braking
can all be controlled by your computer.
Using Smart Cab, you can control your locomotives interactively using the
"pop-up" throttle built into your CTI control panel display. Or while
enroute, let the PC take over to control your trains automatically. Your
trains can now change speed, start, and stop smoothly, all under computer
Smart Cab connects to your PC using the same control network as the
Train-Brain. And the functions of the two modules are fully integrated. The
Train-Brain's sensors can be used to automatically control the function of
the Smart Cab.
CTI's integrated control approach makes running your layout easy. Your
trains can respond prototypically to trackside signals, make station stops,
follow scheduled timetables, perform complex switching operations, etc -
without miles of complicated wiring. The whole job can be done automatically
by your PC - and Smart Cab, of course!!!"
The only thing you can't do with this system is to run 2 locos on the same
track next to each other (well, you can, but then you have to use very short
blocks). But then again, you normally don't do that.
On http://www.freiwald.com/ you find the other Windows program that handle
the CTI hardware. There you also find a good text of how you use the Smart
Cab (stationary decoder they call it). On the first page click the CTI link
and you'll find it.
Also, on the somewhat confusing CTI web, there is tons of info and manual to
download if you want to look into it more.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ole Rosted [mailto:Ole.Rosted@...]
> Sent: den 1 oktober 1999 18:19
> To: email@example.com
> Subject: Re: [z_scale] Extremely Useful web sites attn. Anders L.
> From: Ole.Rosted@... (Ole Rosted)
> On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:31:41 +0200, you wrote:
> >When it comes to digital control, the best system I've found is from
> >www.cti-electronics.com. You don't need to put decoders into the
> locos but
> I downloaded TrainBrain ver. 6.0 (3 Mb) from the site - and you are
> right. You don't need to put decoders in the locos. BUT this is *not*
> digital control in my understanding.
> Digital control must include the ability to address several locos at
> the same time (and in the same track-system), thereby letting the
> different locos run indidually controlled from the controlling device
> (preferably a PC)
> The system CTI electronics presents is nothing but a ordinary
> computer-controlled on/off switching system. with on/off sensing
> capabilities. Good for signals, turnout switching, lights etc. but not
> for anything else.
> I *could* have overlooked something. Please correct me, if I'm wrong
> regards Ole Rosted, Denmark
> > Z Scale RULES!
On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 13:35:13 +0200, you wrote:
Thank you for your reply!
>Well, digital control is when something is controlled digitally, like by a
Yes, sure :-)
>I paste the text for the Smart Cab from CTIs webb:
>The only thing you can't do with this system is to run 2 locos on the same
>track next to each other
Just as I thought! I haven't overlooked anything after all.
This is NOT enough and not what I want from a digital control system
The control system must be able to control a number (why not 256) of
adressable units tx. locomotives on an individual basis at the *same*
time and on the *same* tracks. Block control is not sufficient in my
I want the whole track system to be powered by a fixed voltage from a
source that will be able to suply to each addressable unit (locos,
turnouts, signals etc.) with what is needed to make them work
according to the digital signals sent to them.
I do believe this can be accomplished. I have been programming PC
based A/D and D/A applications for 20 years now, and right from the
beginning - or rather from the time I "stole" my kids train - digital
train control has been my goal. I guess that the electronics will be
much easier for me to do, than the mechanical work with tracks, locos
and other nerve- wrecking train "hardware".
But in Z-locos there is not much room for the decoder etc. It can be
done, though or the parts could maybe be built into a passenger car or
another roomy wagon of some sort. I don't know! The first year (or two
- or three or....) I intend to use on building a stable and well
functioning track system for my digital experiments.
regards Ole Rosted, Denmark
- Ole Rosted,
At 02:36 PM 10/2/99 GMT, you wrote:
>From: Ole.Rosted@... (Ole Rosted)This is what I have envisioned Digital Control to be for a futture layout.
>The control system must be able to control a number (why not 256) of
>adressable units tx. locomotives on an individual basis at the *same*
>time and on the *same* tracks. Block control is not sufficient in my
>I want the whole track system to be powered by a fixed voltage from a
>source that will be able to suply to each addressable unit (locos,
>turnouts, signals etc.) with what is needed to make them work
>according to the digital signals sent to them.
Unfortunatly the systems available now are beyond my buget.
>But in Z-locos there is not much room for the decoder etc. It can beIf Digitrax ever comes out with their DZ121...
>done, though or the parts could maybe be built into a passenger car or
>another roomy wagon of some sort. I don't know!
> The first year (or twoWould be very interested in your progress.
>- or three or....) I intend to use on building a stable and well
>functioning track system for my digital experiments.