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Re: [Z_Scale] Re: Z locomotives and cars from Japan

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  • Robert Toole
    Oh, I forgot, I didn t get the opportunity to ride from Bangkok to Singapore on the train, bummer. Robert ... __________________________________ Discover
    Message 1 of 14 , Jun 1, 2005
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      Oh, I forgot, I didn't get the opportunity to ride
      from Bangkok to Singapore on the train, bummer.
      Robert

      --- bscaro <bscaro@...> wrote:

      > Hi Dan, I'm aware of the scale being larger, it's
      > often 1:150 or even
      > 1:140.
      >
      > I think the reason was the same as the British - eg
      > a need to fit the
      > motors available when N scale started into the
      > prototypically smaller
      > Japanese loco bodies - given modern narrow gauge
      > locos are typically
      > 75% of the size of standard gauge in real life.
      >
      > Here's a metre gauge Thai diesel with a BN GE unit
      > to show the
      > comparison:
      >
      > http://www.locopage.net/rsr-4523.jpg
      >
      > However, these days smaller mechanisms are available
      > and so there's
      > no need to up the scale.
      >
      > And given Nn3 is established as regards standards,
      > gauge, etc, 1:160
      > on Z gauge track - scaling to 3'4" gauge - would
      > make Nn3 a suitable
      > scale for Japanese 3'6" modelling - and provide a
      > lot of useful Z
      > gauge bits and pieces as a side issue !
      >
      > Not to mention it would give a kickstart to
      > modelling in the many
      > countries that use either 3', metre or 3'6" as their
      > gauge.
      >
      > That includes lots of Central and South America, all
      > SE Asian
      > countries, Japan, Taiwan, a fair whack of India,
      > about half of
      > Australia, all of New Zealand and far and away the
      > majority of
      > Africa.
      >
      > Ben
      >
      >
      > > Ben,
      > > I believe that is why the Japanese use different
      > scales. In order
      > to use the
      > > same guage track as everyone else, they had to
      > shift the scaling of
      > Japanese
      > > prototype models. Their prototype rail spacing is
      > narrower than
      > ours.
      > > Dan S
      > >
      > > In a message dated 5/31/2005 8:05:42 AM Eastern
      > Daylight Time,
      > > bscaro@y... writes:
      > > Hi all
      > >
      > > It is kind of odd that the Japanese don't use the
      > combination
      > > available these days of N scale and Z track -Nn3,
      > or Nn3.5 in this
      > > case - to model Japanese trains on 3'6" - which
      > would be most
      > > prototypical of all, and which would probably not
      > require fiddling
      > > about with scale.
      > >
      > > Cheers
      > >
      > > Ben
      > >
      > >
      > > Considering everything in Japan is
      > > > a bit smaller (including the Cape gauge of 1067
      > mm) Japanese Z
      > with
      > > 1/200
      > > > appears a bit more tiny than regular European
      > and American Z of
      > > 1/220!!!
      > >
      > >
      > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
      > removed]
      >
      >
      >




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