Re: [z_scale] Road width question
- Hello Manfred,
I know this going to date me but I can remember street signals
that were not hanging over the street but were mounted on
poles on the right hand sidewalk at many intersections in
Dallas. True some were mounted on arms that hung out over
the street. These were pleasant looking cast iron that took on
a nice green patina in the weather. So if you
don't mind modeling street scenes from the 20s to the 50s,
go with the poles in the sidewalk. I also think that the hanging
of street signals on cable would have been in conflict with the
overhead catenary for the vast number of trolley cars
that ran all over Dallas.
To be to scale an LED would have to be a maximum
of .5mm Dia. for Z scale. No one that I know of makes
such a small LED. Fiber optic is the best solution at this time.
"M. Gottschalch" wrote:
> At the recent train show in Tampa there was someone who sold stop
> kits in N and HO. They were very nice to see working, but since the
> were in the signals themselves they were too large for Z. It should be
> possible to add fiberoptics to the lights and then build the heads in
> You might be limited to ones that stand on the corners or are attached
> to the poles that hang over the streets, as the fibers would have to
> too big to look like wires. Or does someone know of LEDs that are only
> 1-2mm total outside to outside size? That way it might be possible
> very small surface mount LEDs.
- Reynard Wellman wrote:
> To be to scale an LED would have to be a maximum
> of .5mm Dia. for Z scale. No one that I know of makes
> such a small LED. Fiber optic is the best solution at this time.
I also remember the lights on posts beside the road, so that (in my mind
anyway) is not too long ago. ;-)
I didn't realize that the lights would have to be so small. That makes
me wonder if it would be worth it, because I at least would be hard
pressed to see them changing, unless they could be made very bright. Can
fiber optics carry enough light so that when spread in two directions at
the end it will be bright enough to see well? You would have to have 6
fibers to do a 4 way light. Thats a lot to put into a very small pipe.
- Manfred, Reynard and the group:
First, Happy New Year.
> Reynard Wellman wrote:Here's where the state of the art in N scale appears to be:
> > To be to scale an LED would have to be a maximum
> > of .5mm Dia. for Z scale.
> Manfred wrote:
> I didn't realize that the lights would have to be so small. That makes
If you want to experiment, here's one of several sites on the web that sell
fiber optic material. I sent off for their FREE sample, and did in fact get
a foot of every size they sell in a week:
And I have the schematics of the sequencer that was sold "down under" to
drive LEDs. Unfortunately, Dick Smith Electronics stopped making them. But
if you can handle electronics projects, email me for the two GIF drawings.
- "D. A. Karp" wrote:
>Something like this?: http://tappi.me.tut.fi/~ktanskan/photo/z2/p320.jpg
> Agreed. Has anyone played with Woodland Scenics' paving tape/flex
> paste? I need something for those winding mountain roads...
I have made road base from balsa wood, which is easy to cut to follow
I glued a thin cover of chinchilla bath sand over it. Go and check out a
pet shop. This is great stuff, very thin and white, so it is easy to dye
it to whatever colour you want.
I use watercolours. If it doesn't look right at first, just add an other
layer of colour. Darker shade could make it look like asphalt, though
it's impossible to paint road markings on top of sand. Those mountain
necessarily have them anyway.
> Noch makes some two-lane roads for Z-scale (essentially painted maskingHow about N scale road tape?
> tape); they measure 1" wide (0.5" per lane). Cars look fine on the road,
> but the trucks (those made by Noch, for example), barely fit. I think
> perhaps adding another 15-20% plus a shoulder to the width would take care
> of it.
> Has anyone found a material that looks good for roads?
Kari Tanskanen ktanskan@...
Tampere University of Technology Machine Design Laboratory
- The roadbed I find the best is the one from Merkur.
The Merkur Roadbed system is premade. It's just to snap in the track and it
will look great at once. If you paint your rails rusty it will look extremly
good. The overside is ballasted and the underside is made from soft foam.
This gives less sound and also that the track is not glued down. Especially
steam locos runs much better when the track is not glued stiff to the board
since the track can flex which gives better contact to the long rows with
wheels that steamers have. There is pieces available for all tracks from
If you want to see it, I have uploaded some pictures on my site. See
http://www.lattermann.com/amaZing/ in the for sale section under tracks and
electrics (far down on the page).
Best regards from a wintery Stockholm!