Re: [z_scale] Re: Fwd: vehicles, intermodal equipment (Comments?)
- Train Gang,
Malcom is right on! For years I have been cutting and chopping Micro-Machines with a band saw - Vertically and horizontally- to get the tractor trailers to Z. And they have, Believe it or not- come out very well. I even have a depressed flatbed hauling
a large back hoe, with flashing lights. With a possibility of additional container cars coming out, an Ottawa tracktor would be nice. I've "got mine"-- but... I have also made 20',40',53' etc containers with the doors on the end, NOT on the sides like Marklin. I made a "mess" of the 20' and 40' containers for the SEAWITCH and they are Sealand, President, Evergreen, and don't forget open containers able to ship machinery.
American trucks are BIG- Take a 53' container on a trailer with a big nosed tractor
-- it could be 70' or longer. Put that up against the most popular "40?" flat car.I got into Z because it was a challenge. I had to make the buildings and vehicles et al.
A Z LAYOUT COULD NOT BE STORE BOUGHT. In MR a lot of the layouts have the same cars, buildings and bridges, etc. Z is unique as most of the stuff we need has to be devised, improvised and canabalized.
My hats off to Randy and others who are working on this project.
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Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 10:41 AM
Subject: [z_scale] Re: Fwd: vehicles, intermodal equipment (Comments?)
I have some projects in the works along these lines. I've started
developing Masters, but don't expect to see anything for at least six
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "John & Sue Bartolotto" <jsbart@c...>
> You're correct on all counts. Z scale is severely lacking in all
> American vehicles. We need American vehicles of every type and of
> I don't believe that we need another poll on this subject because
> just conducted one.
> John Bartolotto
> Nansen Street Models
> P.O. Box 98
> Carlisle, PA 17013
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> --- John & Sue Bartolotto <jsbart@c...> a(...)
> écrit : > Malcolm,
> Hi Jeffrey and all group, and happy new year to allPerhaps you are making a reference to the Die Cast Promotion
> you guyZ! About vehicles, I remember a few issues of
> Ztrack ago, a manufacturer releasing modern north
> american trucks (Peterbilt, Mack, etc...). I think for
> me time is coming to order some. Are they stil
models (point your bowser to http://www.ffertl3.com/index.cfm and
once there, do a seach for "256", as this is the scale of those
Right now, they list only 2 models, both of them International.
When I bought some (about 7 or 8 months ago) thay had 4 models to
choose from. I do hope the limited choice is only temporary as I
can vouch for the quality (and for only $4.99 each, they are a very
good deal to boot) and I do hope new models will come up soon.
By the way, and that is a bit out of context, I have a railroad line
just besides my home (ex-CP line now operated mostly by Quebec
Gatineau) and a 43 cars consist went by, lead by a single loco (I
think it was a SD-40; next time I will have to be quicker jumping
to the window). On average, a train would have one loco for each 25
to 30 cars (more locos for heavy consists, like unit grain hoppers,
where I can count up to 6 engines for about 100 cars); so in the
case of this mixed consist, I can only assume those were empties.
At any rate, what I want to say is that, with all the recent
discussions about locos pulling power (on flat or on grades), it
seems that what should matter, in my view, would simply be the need
to haul what looks like a normal consist. Extra traction (i.e. more
cars per loco) then becomes not prototypically accurate.
Raymond (Morissette): what is your angle on that, being from an
- In real railroading....anything can go
Tonight I have the following trains:
M 30711-04 with 2 Dash-9 (4400HP) and 10 loads 5 empties.......
Also leaving Joffre(Quebec)
1 sd-75 + 1 Dash-9(4400hp) + 1 Gp-9U + 1 slug
and 2 loads 5 empties 428 tons 695 feet.....
Are you running your trains overpower as CN does ????
Sometimes those are deadhead moves to move extra power where it is most needed....
CN RTC/CCF MTL Desk-16
MP 44 emb Granby spur
- --- raymorrissette@... a écrit : > In real
railroading....anything can go
>Even UP does the same....If you watch the DVD "Change
> Tonight I have the following trains:
> M 30711-04 with 2 Dash-9 (4400HP) and 10 loads 5
> Also leaving Joffre(Quebec)
> M 30921-05
> 1 sd-75 + 1 Dash-9(4400hp) + 1 Gp-9U + 1 slug
> and 2 loads 5 empties 428 tons 695 feet.....
> Are you running your trains overpower as CN does
in the Tehachapis, BNSF's Mojave sub" (Highball
productions), you see a pair of UP SD40-2s gliding
down from Caliente to Illmon with a very heavy train
of 2 piggyback cars (and 4 trailers total load!).
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