• Hello Guyz! I started to build a goods depôt from scratch this morning. I d already made a custom scale ruler, or measure, marked out in scale metres in
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Hello Guyz! I started to build a goods depôt from scratch this morning. I'd already made a custom scale ruler, or measure, marked out in scale metres in Freehand and printed it out 1:1 to help with getting door heights, storey heights etc correct. Our scale is 1:220, is it not? That makes 1 metre = 45.45 mm unless I'm completely demented. What I soon discovered when I compared my architectural drawing with a Faller station built from a kit (Faller 2703) is this: a Faller model building is considerably larger than Z scale would warrant. I bought the 81862 30th anniversary starter set and have added. The locomotive has doors at each end through which the driver would enter. A six foot man could easily get in without banging his head or ducking too much! He'd be about 8.3 mm tall in Z. The Faller station has door 13 mm tall, making them almost 3 metres high. Station doors just aren't that tall. Other measurements lead me to the conclusion that Z scale Faller models are just too darn big! One layout recently featured here, photos of which I have admired today, show a wonderful variety of rolling stock being dwarfed by "huge" cottages along the track. Your comments and observations are eagerly awaited!
• ... I think you re entitled a small mistake before being called completely demented . 1 meter= 1000 millimeters. Therefore 1 meter in Z-scale = 1000/220
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--- In z_scale@yahoogroups.com, <stephenb@k...> wrote:
> That makes 1 metre = 45.45 mm unless I'm completely demented.

I think you're entitled a small mistake before being
called 'completely demented'. 1 meter= 1000 millimeters. Therefore 1
meter in Z-scale = 1000/220 millimeters = 4.54 mm.

But, i agree, some models seem out of scale. I find that the Preiser
figures are about 8 mm tall (the men). 0.008 * 220 would make them
1.76 meters tall, which seems ok. Therefore i usually keep the
preisers in mind when 'eyeing' the scale of structures.
But the 'village church' by vollmer is obviously too big, as are
some of their houses. IMHO the scale of the kibri buildings seems
more accurate.

I haven't got any Faller houses, just some industrial stuff and
bridges, so i can't check their size.

Arjen
• Sounds more like an N gauge building -13mm doors scale to just over 2 Metres at 1:160 Are you sure that it is really a Z scale kit - most of the major kit
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Sounds more like an "N" gauge building -13mm doors scale to just over 2
Metres at 1:160

Are you sure that it is really a Z scale kit - most of the major kit
manufacturers* produce the same model in several scales

* Faller/Pola and Kibri certainly do this

----- Original Message -----
From: <stephenb@...>
To: <z_scale@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 10:51 AM
Subject: [z_scale] Faller z scale

> Hello Guyz! I started to build a goods depôt from scratch this morning.
I'd already made a custom scale ruler, or measure, marked out in scale
metres in Freehand and printed it out 1:1 to help with getting door heights,
storey heights etc correct. Our scale is 1:220, is it not? That makes 1
metre = 45.45 mm unless I'm completely demented. What I soon discovered when
I compared my architectural drawing with a Faller station built from a kit
(Faller 2703) is this: a Faller model building is considerably larger than Z
scale would warrant. I bought the 81862 30th anniversary starter set and
have added. The locomotive has doors at each end through which the driver
would enter. A six foot man could easily get in without banging his head or
ducking too much! He'd be about 8.3 mm tall in Z. The Faller station has
door 13 mm tall, making them almost 3 metres high. Station doors just aren't
that tall. Other measurements lead me to the conclusion that Z scale Faller
models are just too darn big! One layout recently featured here, photos of
which I have admired today, show a wonderful variety of rolling stock being
are eagerly awaited!
• Yes, some of Faller s early kits are not Z but N scale adaptations. The worse is the 2732 engine house. It is way out of scale for Z. I also found a lot of
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Yes, some of Faller's early kits are not Z but N scale adaptations. The worse
is the 2732 engine house. It is way out of scale for Z. I also found a lot of
problems with Faller's 2726 train sheds. Though too scale, the plastic did
not hold up well. I eventually was forced to pull them off of the layout.

Their new kits are much better. I am VERY impressed with the 282707 Guglingen
station. This is a new release. I am building it and so far it is an
excellent kit. The detailing is superb.

Rob Kluz

Ztrack Magazine, Ltd.
6142 Northcliff Blvd.
Dublin, OH 43016
Phone/Fax (614) 764-1703
www.ztrack.com

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• Hello, ... Interesting, I have a Kibri station and the scale looks pretty good but my Marklin 8970 Wintersdorf has doors about 12.5mm high. I just put it down
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Hello,
> ..........
> He'd be about 8.3 mm tall in Z. The Faller station has door 13 mm tall, making them almost 3 metres high.
> .......

Interesting, I have a Kibri station and the scale looks pretty good but my
Marklin 8970 Wintersdorf has doors about 12.5mm high. I just put it down
to the older style of the building.

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Regards, Bob
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