Re: [z_scale] First Post
- zbendtrack@... wrote:
> The idea is obviously to run the bulbs on less voltage than they are rated
Wouldn't a reostat in line with one of the leads allow you to adjust the
voltage and brightness of the lamps as well?
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Bob B" <bbyrne@b...> wrote:
> Hello Frank,notice
> > Also, Vollmer offers a lower-cost alternative to Marklin's
> > 8950 light.
> I'm glad you mentioned the 8950 as it is on my shopping list.
> I've built a Marklin 8970 Wintersdorf Station and didn't even
> it had a hole in the base for the 8950. Of course now it iscompleted
> I can't get access to the interior to "seal" it if required.the
> Is the 8950 in fact suitable for such a small building or would
> Vollmer alternative be better?Hi Bob:
> Regards, Bob
I believe the 8950 is on quite a few shopping lists,
as it has been out of stock from Marklin USA for quite
a while now.
Marklin is pretty slick...they make their opening
just the size of the 8950's base.
The Vollmer buildings are wide open at the base and
you can fit any lighting inside.
So, no, the Vollmer light will not work for the 8950
Wintersdorf station, unless you custom hack an
opening larger than the one they supply.
>You are correct. There are several solutions to operating lamps at reduced
> Wouldn't a reostat in line with one of the leads allow you to adjust the
> voltage and brightness of the lamps as well?
1 - A separate AC or DC transformer
2 - A rheostat (of high wattage, not a simple "potentiometer")
3 - Series full wave diode bridges (1.7v drop per shorted bridge)
4 - A cheap power pack, using the DC throttle
5 - Wiring lamps is series or series/parallel circuits (maybe not for
Most of the small to medium size layouts don't have a lot of room for extra
packs, I am guessing. Folks may only want the track pack, and nothing else
on/around the layout. Solution 3 takes up the least room (and cost), with
solution 2 right behind it. Buying overvoltage lamps takes no extra parts (or time)
(only my opinions follow, fame suit is in place):
The key is extending lamp life and reducing temperatures. The fringe benefit
is the very slight shift in color toward yellow to trick the eye into seeing
"model lighting" different from room lighting.
LED's work, but most yellow LEDs are really yellow, perhaps too yellow to
represent filament type interior lighting. It does represent sodium based street
lighting just fine. White LEDs work, but they are super bright and
expensive, which might be a consideration. Color correction of white LEDs might be
something to consider also.
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Not everyone has the same level of
talent, or time.
PS to Scott Whitmire: You should have never posted the URL on the source of
tiny tubing and lighting accessories. Cost me $50 on a web-placed order last
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- Hello Frank,
> I believe the 8950 is on quite a few shopping lists,FWIW Walthers have it listed 'in stock':
> as it has been out of stock from Marklin USA for quite
> a while now.
> ......That won't be a problem, out of sight out of mind :-)
> So, no, the Vollmer light will not work for the 8950
> Wintersdorf station, unless you custom hack an
> opening larger than the one they supply.
- Hello T,
> It is suitable...but you will have a glowing building...The talk of fiber optics has intrigued me and I will investigate
that option further. It may make sourcing material easier down
here in Australia, Z specific stuff is rare and pricey.
>LED's work, but most yellow LEDs are really yellow, perhaps too yellow toDid you see that scene in N Scale? That was done with a single LED.
>represent filament type interior lighting. It does represent sodium based
>lighting just fine. White LEDs work, but they are super bright and
>expensive, which might be a consideration. Color correction of white LEDs
>something to consider also.
>Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Not everyone has the same level ofNo kidding. My shopping list at that place grows daily. I especially like
>talent, or time.
>PS to Scott Whitmire: You should have never posted the URL on the source of
>tiny tubing and lighting accessories. Cost me $50 on a web-placed order last
shades. Now, *every* building will have to be lit, both inside and out.
>Bill K.Scott Whitmire