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  • Greg Elmassian
    Jun 19, 2013
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      Yes, NOT to get political...

      Please tread carefully gentlemen, facts good, political aspersions or rants will result in things disappearing.

      Thank you in advance for keeping "on track" with trains.

      The moderators.

      --- In z_scale@yahoogroups.com, Alan Cox <alan@...> wrote:
      > On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 07:39:41 -0500
      > Rick Saviano <saviano@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > Not to get political, but it's more like they want to run the
      > > non-Chinese mold makers out of business. That's what happened to the
      > > U.S. clothing industry.
      > It's simply a matter of their wage bills being much much lower than very
      > expensive US labour. That is changing rapidly because China is rapidly
      > building a middle class of its own and they also want flat screen
      > televison, nice cars and the rest of it.
      > Quite a lot of clothing has been moving back the other way. Some of our
      > model companies in the UK are doing more of their work here as well, and
      > Hornby (our biggest model brand) is moving about 10% more of its
      > production back to the UK.
      > Plus you need to remember that in some cases (eg Bachmann) it's a Chinese
      > company in the first place - they merely outsource some business to the
      > USA ;-)
      > Europe does have a fair number of people doing tooling and moulding work,
      > or you can do your own. There is nothing intrinsically "magic" about
      > plastic moulding that requires massive production lines. In fact I know
      > people who cut plastic kit tooling and run them in their shed. They are
      > CNC cutting rather electro-eroding so the quality is a tiny shade lower
      > but its rare that matters.
      > Pad printing is also widely available because it's not a 'speciality' -
      > there are people pad printing everything imaginable all over the world.
      > Again it's not a speciality art - the machinery is not that cheap but it
      > is available off the shelf, and Europe is full of people who will run pad
      > print jobs.
      > 3D print is also beginning to change the rules. although we are not quite
      > at the critical point (which is going to be a $10K printer with
      > acceptable media costs at Shapeways FUD range of quality). It'll get
      > there and that plus home CNC kit will change the world. Z is also ideal
      > for such technology because the costs are heavily based on material
      > volume. Z is big enough the features are printable, small enough to be
      > cheap, N likewise. By the time you hit HO it's incredibly expensive 8)
      > I mostly do N these days but a lot of my recent stock is stuff I designed
      > and built from a mix of 3D print, cut vinyl, etching and other
      > technologies. Much more fun than buying little boxes from shops.
      > You don't need to buy pre-assembled little plastic trains from China, you
      > have a choice.
      > Alan
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