59338Re: Yahoo is Tracking Group Members
- Jan 3, 2009OK, then, I suppose I'd better batten down the hatches and be
prepared for the worst! Clearly I've underestimated the hostile
nature of the world.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Alan Cox <alan@...> wrote:
> > Second, 99.9% of "tracking" data is not used in a malicious way;
> Do you define malicious as "charging you different amounts for
> the same product according to a mathematic model of your income"
> I certainly prefer them to have poor or invalid data so they can't
> > Third, the concept of "big brother" should really only scare
> > who have something to hide. True, on rare occasion some innocent
> > gets his life turned inside out by mistake, but people stand a
> > better chance of being killed in a car accident.
> Please cite the statistical data you are using. I don't believe
> if you knew someone with the same name as someone on the US idiot
> list you'd have different views I think.
> > Fourth, based on observations I've made of some data-keepers,
> > our "secrets" are quite safe because they are in the hands of
> > who haven't a clue how to manage the data they have--not to
> > they have entirely too much data to manage in the first place.
> > in numbers!
> Those are the people who lose copies of all their data and post it
> unencrypted on CD and lose them (like the UK government...)
> > I used to lay awake nights fretting over my charge card number
> > being "out there" for someone to misuse. But, I keep my compter
> > well protected, and I'm extremely mindful of the sites where I
> > transactions, and over time I've gotten over my fears. Beyond
> (some real statistics for you: more card fraud occurs by phone than
> internet - because the phone ordering involves a human paid minimum
> having all your details. Internet retailers go to huge lengths to
> card numbers and info from ever being in the hands of an employee.
> Companies that do electronic card handling are also subject to
> security audits and a strict security policy from the card
> > if someone is "following" me as I surf the web, well, I cannot
> > the life of me imagine how this information could be exploited
> > maliciously.
> The advertisers use it to build an exact profile of you to optimise
> advertising but also in some cases to change the prices you are
> Its the electronic equivalent of the rule about going to buy
> goods or a car looking shabby, and never wearing a suit when you are
> going to haggle.
> Fraudsters and scammers don't generally have access to the same
> (although obviously when there are leaks...). They often work off
> data however - names of relatives and parents etc
> Find a person who runs a business
> Get the business address
> Look em up on facebook
> Build a map of their relatives
> Find their mothers family if at all possible
> Get the mothers maiden name
> At that point you've typically got enough to scam a bank account or
> hire purchase (although companies have gotten a lot more careful).
> A recent and even more evil variant of this involves using a cheque
> a persons account details, picking up name and address information
> them (easy if its an order you lifted) then transferring money to
> persons account. A common bank authentication approach when you
> and forget passwords etc will be
> "Name" blah
> "Date of birth" blah off facebook
> "Mothers maiden name" blah off facebook
> "Can you tell me one of your most recent transactions"
> "Certainly ...." (give details of xfer from another stolen
> into this one)
> Some of the scammers are very very clever and there is an ongoing
> between the banks, business world and scammers to invent new
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