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1701Fwd: non-CBH: Turkey & Latkes

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  • Antonia Dosik
    Jul 9, 2013

      It's true!  Hanukkah and Thanksgiving are on the same day this year!

      What a great combination -- turkey and sweet potato latkes.  Two of my favorites.


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      From: Dottie Cohen <dfcohen44@...>
      Subject: Fwd: non-CBH: Turkey & Latkes
      Date: July 8, 2013 8:36:07 PM EDT
      To: Joel Ezra Friedman <jefriedman45@...>, Adele Levine <aglev33@...>, Toni Dosik <tdosik@...>

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      From: "Lynn Tarnow" <wonratl@...>
      Date: Jul 8, 2013 8:23 PM
      Subject: non-CBH: Turkey & Latkes
      To: <cbhlistserv@...>

      Hanukkah and Thanksgiving..... Turkey and Latkes. What a great combination!                                

      Hanukkah will be on Thanksgiving this
                                      year, for the first time ever, and never

      We will be celebrating the first
                                      night of Chanukah on Thanksgiving, so expect
                                      turkey and latkes on the table.
      This is the only time it will ever
                                      happen, read below to see the

      Hanukkah will be on
                                      Thanksgiving this year! Thanksgiving is set as
                                      the fourth Thursday in November, meaning the
                                      latest it can be is 11/28. 11/28 is also the
                                      earliest Hanukkah can be.......
      The Jewish calendar repeats on a 19 year
                                      cycle, and Thanksgiving repeats on a 7 year
                                      cycle. You would  therefore expect them to
                                      coincide roughly every 19x7 = 133 years.
                                       Looking back, this is approximately
                                      correct – the last time it would  have
                                      happened is 1861.
      However, Thanksgiving was only formally
                                      established by President Lincoln in 1863. So, it
                                      has never happened  before.

                                      won't it ever happen again?

      The reason is
                                       because the Jewish calendar is very slowly
                                      getting out of sync with  the solar
                                      calendar, at a rate
      of 4 days per 1000 years!
      This means
                                       that while presently Hanukkah can be as
                                      early as 11/28, over the  years the
                                      calendar will drift forward,
      such that the  earliest Hanukkah
                                      can be is 11/29. The next time Hanukkah falls on
                                      11/28 is 2146, which is a Monday. Therefore,
                                      2013 is the only time Hanukkah will ever
                                      overlap with Thanksgiving!!!

      Of course,
                                       if the Jewish calendar is never modified
                                      in any way, then it will  slowly move
                                      forward through the Gregorian calendar, until it
                                      loops  all the way back to where it is
      So, Chanukah would again fall on
                                      Thursday, 11/28...in the year 79,811. Given our
                                      trajectory with  global
      it is fair to say humans won’t be here
                                      then. And if  there are no humans, the
                                      holidays will be cancelled.

      So on
                                      November 28th 2013, enjoy your turkey and your
                                      latkes. It has never happened before, and it
                                      will  never happen

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