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Re: [ydn-javascript] Strict DOCTYPE recommendation for YUI, why?

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  • Matt Sweeney
    Hi Fred, The grids.css and fonts.css files are designed to be mode agnostic. You should see no diffs in the rendering between modes. We recommend standards
    Message 1 of 4 , Apr 26, 2007
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      Hi Fred,

      The grids.css and fonts.css files are designed to be mode agnostic. You
      should see no diffs in the rendering between modes.

      We recommend "standards" mode as a best practice, as it gets us closer
      to a level playing field across browsers. However, YUI is designed with
      retrofitting existing pages in mind, and we understand that switching to
      standards mode is a big job in some cases.

      If you find issues with "quirks" mode versions of components, please
      file as bugs.

      Matt


      Fred Janon wrote:
      > Yes it helps, thanks Dave.
      >
      > The issue is mainly for existing pages that get spruced up with YUI
      > and already have a non strict DOCTYPE. There is a non negligable risk
      > in switching DOCTYPE on these pages and we need strong arguments to
      > support that kind of changes.
      >
      > I think it would help a lot if there was two screen shots on the Grids
      > page that demonstrate the difference in look between a page in strict
      > and non strict mode.
      >
      > Thanks
      >
      > Fred
      >
      > On 4/26/07, *dav.glass@... <mailto:dav.glass@...>*
      > <dav.glass@... <mailto:dav.glass@...>> wrote:
      >
      > Fred --
      >
      > By putting the browser in standards mode we gain access to things
      > that are not reliable in quirks mode.. (Box model issues..)
      >
      > Most of the YUI tools "should" work in quirks mode, however they
      > may look like crap.
      >
      > There are other various things that may not work very well in
      > quirks mode, such as:
      > automatic positioning
      > container sizes
      > padding
      > etc.
      >
      > It might be worth asking why use quirks mode? Are you getting any
      > benefit to not using standards mode?
      >
      > In my opinion, you should always force the browser into standards
      > mode, things just play nicer..
      >
      > Hope that info helps..
      >
      > Dav
      >
      > Dav Glass
      > dav.glass@... <mailto:dav.glass@...>
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      >
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      >
      > ----- Original Message ----
      > From: Fred Janon <fjanon@... <mailto:fjanon@...>>
      > To: ydn-javascript@yahoogroups.com
      > <mailto:ydn-javascript@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 5:27:19 PM
      > Subject: [ydn-javascript] Strict DOCTYPE recommendation for YUI, why?
      >
      > Hi,
      >
      > I am trying to understand the impact of not using a strict
      > mode DOCTYPE when using YUI. I saw the recommendation on the Grids
      > CSS page http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/grids/
      > <http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/grids/> but there is no
      > explanation of the consequences if we are not using the strict mode.
      >
      > I found this article about IE6 and I think that might be one of
      > the main issues of not using a strict mode, but would someone
      > explain what impact it would have on using YUI in quirks mode?
      >
      > http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb250395.aspx#cssenhancements_topic2
      > <http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb250395.aspx#cssenhancements_topic2>
      >
      > I think that also the display property with the inline and
      > inline-block values in IE behaves differently in strict and quirks
      > mode...
      >
      > Thanks
      >
      > Fred
      >
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