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    xml-doc list guidelines ... xml-doc is a mailing list where writers, developers, vendors, and others discuss the application of XML, SGML, and related
    Message 1 of 17 , Sep 1, 2001
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      xml-doc list guidelines
      ------------------------------------------------------------------
      xml-doc is a mailing list where writers, developers, vendors,
      and others discuss the application of XML, SGML, and related
      technologies to structured authoring, particularly authoring
      of documentation for computer software and hardware.


      These guidelines are sent as a Welcome message to new xml-doc
      subscribers and once every four weeks to all current subscribers.
      Please save these guidelines for later reference and take a moment
      to review them now (if you haven't already) including the PRIVACY
      POLICY and "NO SPAM" NOTICE at the end.


      0. SUGGESTED TOPICS
      -----------------------------------------------------------------
      Topics for which list members have a specific interest
      include:

      * XML editing applications
      * "Single-sourcing" for multiple audiences/delivery formats
      * XML-based content management systems
      * DocBook and other document-oriented DTDs/schema
      * Converting legacy documents
      * Organizational strategies for structured authoring
      * Document analysis and DTD/schema creation/refinement
      * Transitioning from older (e.g. FrameMaker) environments
      * Publishing (transforming and delivering XML content)


      1. ACCESSING THE XML-DOC WEB SITE
      -----------------------------------------------------------------
      As a member of the xml-doc mailing list, you also have access
      to the xml-doc Web site:

      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xml-doc/

      To use some features of the Web site, you also need to
      choose a username and password and register with Yahoo Groups.


      2. POSTING AND REPLYING TO MESSAGES
      -----------------------------------------------------------------
      To send a message to all the members of the mailing list,
      e-mail it to:

      xml-doc@yahoogroups.com

      To post a message via the Web, visit:

      http://groups.yahoo.com/post/xml-doc/

      By default, when you reply to a message, the reply is sent to
      all members of the list. If you want to reply just to the
      author of a posted message, please specify only the author's
      e-mail address in the "To:" field in your reply.

      Here are a few general tips for posting and replying to
      messages delivered to online mailing lists:

      a. Use meaningful subject lines.

      Try not to use generic, uninformative subject lines such as
      "Easy question," "Help needed," "Urgent," and so on.
      Instead, use meaningful subject lines that will quickly
      make sense to the people whose help you are trying to get.

      b. Quote only relevant parts of messages when replying.

      When replying to a message, please don't quote the author's
      entire message unless it's really necessary. Instead,
      quote just the parts to which you are directly replying, or
      quote only enough to establish a context for your reply.

      c. Avoid idiomatic and colloquial language.

      Be sensitive to the fact that a significant number of
      subscribers to any English-language online mailing list are
      non-native speakers of English. By avoiding idiomatic and
      colloquial language, you ensure that your message will have
      a higher degree of international readability.


      3. READING MESSAGES VIA THE WEB AND ACCESSING THE MESSAGE ARCHIVE
      -----------------------------------------------------------------
      All messages posted to the list are simultaneously posted to
      xml-doc Web site and are immediately available at:

      http://groups.yahoo.com/messages/xml-doc/

      All messages are also automatically archived. To search
      the archive, use the search box on the message page. To browse
      the archive by month, visit the xml-doc main page:

      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xml-doc/


      4. UNSUBSCRIBING, RECEIVING DIGESTS, AND PUTTING MAIL ON HOLD
      -----------------------------------------------------------------
      You can unsubscribe at any time by e-mailing a message to

      xml-doc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

      To specify that you want to receive a digest of messages once
      a day instead of receiving messages one at a time as they are
      posted, send a blank e-mail message to:

      xml-doc-digest@yahoogroups.com

      To remain a list member, but receive no mail (for example, if
      you plan to read messages by accessing the archive at the
      xml-doc Web site or if you want to stop your xml-doc e-mail
      while you are on a vacation), send a blank e-mail message to:

      xml-doc-nomail@yahoogroups.com

      To switch back from the "digest" or "no mail" settings to the
      "normal" setting, send a blank e-mail message to:

      xml-doc-normal@yahoogroups.com

      You can also change your delivery settings from the xml-doc
      Web site:

      http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/xml-doc/


      5. DEALING WITH E-MAIL ATTACHMENTS
      -----------------------------------------------------------------
      Any files that members attach to a message are stripped out
      before the message is distributed to the list; you cannot send
      or receive attachments via the list.

      If you have a file you would like to make available to the
      other members of the list, upload it directly to the file
      sharing area of the xml-doc Web site:

      http://groups.yahoo.com/files/xml-doc/

      All interested members can then access or download the file at
      their convenience.



      6. UNDERSTANDING THE ROLE OF THE LIST MODERATOR
      -----------------------------------------------------------------
      This is an unmoderated list in the sense that messages
      submitted by members are not reviewed or approved by the list
      owner before being sent on to other members.

      However, the list owner/moderator reserves the right to
      unilaterally remove any member from the list if the moderator
      determines that the member has violated the generally accepted
      standards for mailing-list communication summarized at:

      http://groups.yahoo.com/info/guidelines.html


      7. HELPING TO PROMOTE THE LIST
      -----------------------------------------------------------------
      If you maintain a technical-writing or XML-related Web page,
      you can help promote the list by adding a simple "subscribe"
      link on one of your Web pages. Just cut and paste the
      following HTML:

      ..............................................................

      <form method="GET"
      action="http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/xml-doc">
      <table
      cellpadding="15"
      border="0"
      bgcolor="#FFFFCC">
      <tr>
      <td
      align="center">
      <big><strong>Subscribe to XML-DOC</strong></big>
      <hr>
      The XML mailing list for
      <br>
      documentation professionals.
      </td>
      </tr>
      <tr>
      <td
      align="center">
      <input
      type="text"
      name="user"
      value="enter email address"
      size=20>
      <input
      type="submit"
      value="Join!">
      </td>
      </tr>
      </table>
      </form>

      ..............................................................


      8. RECEIVING FURTHER HELP
      -----------------------------------------------------------------
      If you have questions about the list itself and need to have
      them answered by a real person, send them to:

      xml-doc-owner@yahoogroups.com


      Regards,

      Michael Smith
      Moderator and list owner

      ..................................................................

      PRIVACY POLICY
      -----------------------------------------------------------------
      The xml-doc list moderator will not provide your e-mail address
      or personal information to any third party, at any time, for any
      purpose. Yahoo Groups itself has a separate privacy policy:

      http://groups.yahoo.com/info/privacy.html

      Read their policy carefully and make sure it is acceptable to
      you. If it is not, you should unsubscribe from the list.


      "NO SPAM" NOTICE
      -----------------------------------------------------------------
      Do not post spam to xml-doc. Examples of e-mail messages
      generally classified as spam include:

      * Chain letters
      * Messages about multi-leveling marketing "opportunities"
      * Solicitations for "get rich quick," "make money fast," "work
      from home" schemes, etc.
      * Messages promoting software designed to harvest e-mail
      addresses

      and so on ...

      For information about the Yahoo Groups spam prevention and
      anti-spam enforcement policies, visit

      http://groups.yahoo.com/info/nospam.html
      ..................................................................
    • xml-doc@yahoogroups.com
      xml-doc list guidelines ... xml-doc is a mailing list where writers, developers, vendors, and others discuss the application of XML, SGML, and related
      Message 2 of 17 , Oct 1, 2001
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        xml-doc list guidelines
        ------------------------------------------------------------------
        xml-doc is a mailing list where writers, developers, vendors,
        and others discuss the application of XML, SGML, and related
        technologies to structured authoring, particularly authoring
        of documentation for computer software and hardware.


        These guidelines are sent as a Welcome message to new xml-doc
        subscribers and once every four weeks to all current subscribers.
        Please save these guidelines for later reference and take a moment
        to review them now (if you haven't already) including the PRIVACY
        POLICY and "NO SPAM" NOTICE at the end.


        0. SUGGESTED TOPICS
        -----------------------------------------------------------------
        Topics for which list members have a specific interest
        include:

        * XML editing applications
        * "Single-sourcing" for multiple audiences/delivery formats
        * XML-based content management systems
        * DocBook and other document-oriented DTDs/schema
        * Converting legacy documents
        * Organizational strategies for structured authoring
        * Document analysis and DTD/schema creation/refinement
        * Transitioning from older (e.g. FrameMaker) environments
        * Publishing (transforming and delivering XML content)


        1. ACCESSING THE XML-DOC WEB SITE
        -----------------------------------------------------------------
        As a member of the xml-doc mailing list, you also have access
        to the xml-doc Web site:

        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xml-doc/

        To use some features of the Web site, you also need to
        choose a username and password and register with Yahoo Groups.


        2. POSTING AND REPLYING TO MESSAGES
        -----------------------------------------------------------------
        To send a message to all the members of the mailing list,
        e-mail it to:

        xml-doc@yahoogroups.com

        To post a message via the Web, visit:

        http://groups.yahoo.com/post/xml-doc/

        By default, when you reply to a message, the reply is sent to
        all members of the list. If you want to reply just to the
        author of a posted message, please specify only the author's
        e-mail address in the "To:" field in your reply.

        Here are a few general tips for posting and replying to
        messages delivered to online mailing lists:

        a. Use meaningful subject lines.

        Try not to use generic, uninformative subject lines such as
        "Easy question," "Help needed," "Urgent," and so on.
        Instead, use meaningful subject lines that will quickly
        make sense to the people whose help you are trying to get.

        b. Quote only relevant parts of messages when replying.

        When replying to a message, please don't quote the author's
        entire message unless it's really necessary. Instead,
        quote just the parts to which you are directly replying, or
        quote only enough to establish a context for your reply.

        c. Avoid idiomatic and colloquial language.

        Be sensitive to the fact that a significant number of
        subscribers to any English-language online mailing list are
        non-native speakers of English. By avoiding idiomatic and
        colloquial language, you ensure that your message will have
        a higher degree of international readability.


        3. READING MESSAGES VIA THE WEB AND ACCESSING THE MESSAGE ARCHIVE
        -----------------------------------------------------------------
        All messages posted to the list are simultaneously posted to
        xml-doc Web site and are immediately available at:

        http://groups.yahoo.com/messages/xml-doc/

        All messages are also automatically archived. To search
        the archive, use the search box on the message page. To browse
        the archive by month, visit the xml-doc main page:

        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xml-doc/


        4. UNSUBSCRIBING, RECEIVING DIGESTS, AND PUTTING MAIL ON HOLD
        -----------------------------------------------------------------
        You can unsubscribe at any time by e-mailing a message to

        xml-doc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

        To specify that you want to receive a digest of messages once
        a day instead of receiving messages one at a time as they are
        posted, send a blank e-mail message to:

        xml-doc-digest@yahoogroups.com

        To remain a list member, but receive no mail (for example, if
        you plan to read messages by accessing the archive at the
        xml-doc Web site or if you want to stop your xml-doc e-mail
        while you are on a vacation), send a blank e-mail message to:

        xml-doc-nomail@yahoogroups.com

        To switch back from the "digest" or "no mail" settings to the
        "normal" setting, send a blank e-mail message to:

        xml-doc-normal@yahoogroups.com

        You can also change your delivery settings from the xml-doc
        Web site:

        http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/xml-doc/


        5. DEALING WITH E-MAIL ATTACHMENTS
        -----------------------------------------------------------------
        Any files that members attach to a message are stripped out
        before the message is distributed to the list; you cannot send
        or receive attachments via the list.

        If you have a file you would like to make available to the
        other members of the list, upload it directly to the file
        sharing area of the xml-doc Web site:

        http://groups.yahoo.com/files/xml-doc/

        All interested members can then access or download the file at
        their convenience.



        6. UNDERSTANDING THE ROLE OF THE LIST MODERATOR
        -----------------------------------------------------------------
        This is an unmoderated list in the sense that messages
        submitted by members are not reviewed or approved by the list
        owner before being sent on to other members.

        However, the list owner/moderator reserves the right to
        unilaterally remove any member from the list if the moderator
        determines that the member has violated the generally accepted
        standards for mailing-list communication summarized at:

        http://groups.yahoo.com/info/guidelines.html


        7. HELPING TO PROMOTE THE LIST
        -----------------------------------------------------------------
        If you maintain a technical-writing or XML-related Web page,
        you can help promote the list by adding a simple "subscribe"
        link on one of your Web pages. Just cut and paste the
        following HTML:

        ..............................................................

        <form method="GET"
        action="http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/xml-doc">
        <table
        cellpadding="15"
        border="0"
        bgcolor="#FFFFCC">
        <tr>
        <td
        align="center">
        <big><strong>Subscribe to XML-DOC</strong></big>
        <hr>
        The XML mailing list for
        <br>
        documentation professionals.
        </td>
        </tr>
        <tr>
        <td
        align="center">
        <input
        type="text"
        name="user"
        value="enter email address"
        size=20>
        <input
        type="submit"
        value="Join!">
        </td>
        </tr>
        </table>
        </form>

        ..............................................................


        8. RECEIVING FURTHER HELP
        -----------------------------------------------------------------
        If you have questions about the list itself and need to have
        them answered by a real person, send them to:

        xml-doc-owner@yahoogroups.com


        Regards,

        Michael Smith
        Moderator and list owner

        ..................................................................

        PRIVACY POLICY
        -----------------------------------------------------------------
        The xml-doc list moderator will not provide your e-mail address
        or personal information to any third party, at any time, for any
        purpose. Yahoo Groups itself has a separate privacy policy:

        http://groups.yahoo.com/info/privacy.html

        Read their policy carefully and make sure it is acceptable to
        you. If it is not, you should unsubscribe from the list.


        "NO SPAM" NOTICE
        -----------------------------------------------------------------
        Do not post spam to xml-doc. Examples of e-mail messages
        generally classified as spam include:

        * Chain letters
        * Messages about multi-leveling marketing "opportunities"
        * Solicitations for "get rich quick," "make money fast," "work
        from home" schemes, etc.
        * Messages promoting software designed to harvest e-mail
        addresses

        and so on ...

        For information about the Yahoo Groups spam prevention and
        anti-spam enforcement policies, visit

        http://groups.yahoo.com/info/nospam.html
        ..................................................................
      • xml-doc@yahoogroups.com
        xml-doc list guidelines ... xml-doc is a mailing list where writers, developers, vendors, and others discuss the application of XML, SGML, and related
        Message 3 of 17 , Nov 1, 2001
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          xml-doc list guidelines
          ------------------------------------------------------------------
          xml-doc is a mailing list where writers, developers, vendors,
          and others discuss the application of XML, SGML, and related
          technologies to structured authoring, particularly authoring
          of documentation for computer software and hardware.


          These guidelines are sent as a Welcome message to new xml-doc
          subscribers and once every four weeks to all current subscribers.
          Please save these guidelines for later reference and take a moment
          to review them now (if you haven't already) including the PRIVACY
          POLICY and "NO SPAM" NOTICE at the end.


          TABLE OF CONTENTS
          -------------------------------------------------------------------
          0. SUGGESTED TOPICS
          1. ACCESSING THE XML-DOC WEB SITE
          2. POSTING AND REPLYING TO MESSAGES
          3. READING MESSAGES VIA THE WEB AND ACCESSING THE MESSAGE ARCHIVE
          4. UNSUBSCRIBING, RECEIVING DIGESTS, AND PUTTING MAIL ON HOLD
          5. DEALING WITH E-MAIL ATTACHMENTS
          6. UNDERSTANDING THE ROLE OF THE LIST MODERATOR
          7. HELPING TO PROMOTE THE LIST
          8. RECEIVING FURTHER HELP

          A. PRIVACY POLICY
          B. "NO SPAM" NOTICE



          0. SUGGESTED TOPICS
          -----------------------------------------------------------------
          Topics for which list members have a specific interest
          include:

          * XML editing applications
          * Single-sourcing for multiple audiences/delivery formats
          * XML-based content management systems
          * DocBook and other document-oriented DTDs/schema
          * Converting legacy documents
          * Organizational strategies for structured authoring
          * Document analysis and DTD/schema creation/refinement
          * Transitioning from older (e.g. FrameMaker) environments
          * Publishing (transforming and delivering XML content)


          1. ACCESSING THE XML-DOC WEB SITE
          -----------------------------------------------------------------
          As a member of the xml-doc mailing list, you also have access
          to the xml-doc Web site:

          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xml-doc/

          To use some features of the Web site, you also need to
          choose a username and password and register with Yahoo Groups.


          2. POSTING AND REPLYING TO MESSAGES
          -----------------------------------------------------------------
          To send a message to all the members of the mailing list,
          e-mail it to:

          xml-doc@yahoogroups.com

          To post a message via the Web, visit:

          http://groups.yahoo.com/post/xml-doc/

          By default, when you reply to a message, the reply is sent to
          all members of the list. If you want to reply just to the
          author of a posted message, please specify only the author's
          e-mail address in the "To:" field in your reply.

          Here are a few general tips for posting and replying to
          messages delivered to online mailing lists:

          a. Use meaningful subject lines.

          Try not to use generic, uninformative subject lines such as
          "Easy question," "Help needed," "Urgent," and so on.
          Instead, use meaningful subject lines that will quickly
          make sense to the people whose help you are trying to get.

          b. Quote only relevant parts of messages when replying.

          When replying to a message, please don't quote the author's
          entire message unless it's really necessary. Instead,
          quote just the parts to which you are directly replying, or
          quote only enough to establish a context for your reply.

          c. Avoid idiomatic and colloquial English.

          Be sensitive to the fact that a significant number of
          subscribers to any English-language online mailing list are
          non-native speakers of English. By avoiding idiomatic and
          colloquial language, you ensure that your message will have
          a higher degree of international readability.


          3. READING MESSAGES VIA THE WEB AND ACCESSING THE MESSAGE ARCHIVE
          -----------------------------------------------------------------
          All messages posted to the list are simultaneously posted to
          xml-doc website and are immediately available at:

          http://groups.yahoo.com/messages/xml-doc/

          All messages are also automatically archived. To search
          the archive, use the search box on the message page. To browse
          the archive by month, visit the xml-doc main page:

          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xml-doc/


          4. UNSUBSCRIBING, RECEIVING DIGESTS, AND PUTTING MAIL ON HOLD
          -----------------------------------------------------------------
          You can unsubscribe at any time by e-mailing a message to

          xml-doc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

          To specify that you want to receive a digest of messages once
          a day instead of receiving messages one at a time as they are
          posted, send a blank e-mail message to:

          xml-doc-digest@yahoogroups.com

          To remain a list member, but receive no mail (for example, if
          you plan to read messages by accessing the archive at the
          xml-doc Web site or if you want to stop your xml-doc e-mail
          while you are on a vacation), send a blank e-mail message to:

          xml-doc-nomail@yahoogroups.com

          To switch back from the "digest" or "no mail" settings to the
          "normal" setting, send a blank e-mail message to:

          xml-doc-normal@yahoogroups.com

          You can also change your delivery settings from the xml-doc
          Web site:

          http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/xml-doc/


          5. DEALING WITH E-MAIL ATTACHMENTS
          -----------------------------------------------------------------
          Any files that members attach to a message are stripped out
          before the message is distributed to the list; you cannot send
          or receive attachments via the list.

          If you have a file you would like to make available to the
          other members of the list, upload it directly to the file
          sharing area of the xml-doc Web site:

          http://groups.yahoo.com/files/xml-doc/

          All interested members can then access or download the file at
          their convenience.



          6. UNDERSTANDING THE ROLE OF THE LIST MODERATOR
          -----------------------------------------------------------------
          This is an unmoderated list in the sense that messages
          submitted by members are not reviewed or approved by the list
          owner before being sent on to other members.

          However, the list owner/moderator reserves the right to
          unilaterally remove any member from the list if the moderator
          determines that the member has violated the generally accepted
          standards for mailing-list communication summarized at:

          http://groups.yahoo.com/local/guidelines.html


          7. HELPING TO PROMOTE THE LIST
          -----------------------------------------------------------------
          If you maintain a technical-writing or XML-related Web page,
          you can help promote the list by adding a simple "subscribe"
          link on one of your Web pages. Just cut and paste the
          following HTML:

          ..............................................................

          <form method="GET"
          action="http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/xml-doc">
          <table
          cellpadding="15"
          border="0"
          bgcolor="#FFFFCC">
          <tr>
          <td
          align="center">
          <big><strong>Subscribe to XML-DOC</strong></big>
          <hr>
          The XML mailing list for
          <br>
          documentation professionals.
          </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
          <td
          align="center">
          <input
          type="text"
          name="user"
          value="enter email address"
          size=20>
          <input
          type="submit"
          value="Join!">
          </td>
          </tr>
          </table>
          </form>

          ..............................................................


          8. RECEIVING FURTHER HELP
          -----------------------------------------------------------------
          If you have questions about the list itself and need to have
          them answered by a real person, send them to:

          xml-doc-owner@yahoogroups.com


          Regards,

          Michael Smith
          xml-doc moderator and list owner

          ..................................................................

          A. PRIVACY POLICY
          -----------------------------------------------------------------
          The xml-doc list moderator has a complete list of e-mail
          addresses for all subscribers to the list, but will not provide
          any subscriber e-mail addresses or personal information to any
          third party, at any time, for any purpose. Yahoo Groups itself
          has a separate privacy policy:

          http://privacy.yahoo.com/

          Read their policy carefully and make sure it is acceptable to
          you. If it's not, you should unsubscribe from the list.


          B. "NO SPAM" NOTICE
          -----------------------------------------------------------------
          Do not post spam to xml-doc. Examples of e-mail messages
          generally classified as spam include:

          * Fraudulent or deceptive announcements of any kind --
          particularly of the type "Hey, I just found out about this
          great website [or product]" when the website [or product] you
          "just found out about" is actually something you've developed
          or have a financial interest in
          * Product or service announcements that have an excessive
          amount of unobjective marketing hype
          * Any announcement about a domain name you're trying to sell
          * Messages about multi-leveling marketing "opportunities" or
          "get rich quick," "make money fast," "work from home" schemes
          * Chain letters
          * Messages promoting software designed to harvest e-mail
          addresses

          and so on ...

          You should also read the the Yahoo Terms of Service document,
          which contains information about their policy toward spam, along
          with other things.

          http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
          ..................................................................
        • xml-doc@yahoogroups.com
          xml-doc list guidelines ... xml-doc is a mailing list where writers, developers, vendors, and others discuss the application of XML, SGML, and related
          Message 4 of 17 , Dec 1, 2001
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            xml-doc list guidelines
            ------------------------------------------------------------------
            xml-doc is a mailing list where writers, developers, vendors,
            and others discuss the application of XML, SGML, and related
            technologies to structured authoring, particularly authoring
            of documentation for computer software and hardware.


            These guidelines are sent as a Welcome message to new xml-doc
            subscribers and once every four weeks to all current subscribers.
            Please save these guidelines for later reference and take a moment
            to review them now (if you haven't already) including the PRIVACY
            POLICY and "NO SPAM" NOTICE at the end.


            TABLE OF CONTENTS
            -------------------------------------------------------------------
            0. SUGGESTED TOPICS
            1. ACCESSING THE XML-DOC WEB SITE
            2. POSTING AND REPLYING TO MESSAGES
            3. READING MESSAGES VIA THE WEB AND ACCESSING THE MESSAGE ARCHIVE
            4. UNSUBSCRIBING, RECEIVING DIGESTS, AND PUTTING MAIL ON HOLD
            5. DEALING WITH E-MAIL ATTACHMENTS
            6. UNDERSTANDING THE ROLE OF THE LIST MODERATOR
            7. HELPING TO PROMOTE THE LIST
            8. RECEIVING FURTHER HELP

            A. PRIVACY POLICY
            B. "NO SPAM" NOTICE



            0. SUGGESTED TOPICS
            -----------------------------------------------------------------
            Topics for which list members have a specific interest
            include:

            * XML editing applications
            * Single-sourcing for multiple audiences/delivery formats
            * XML-based content management systems
            * DocBook and other document-oriented DTDs/schema
            * Converting legacy documents
            * Organizational strategies for structured authoring
            * Document analysis and DTD/schema creation/refinement
            * Transitioning from older (e.g. FrameMaker) environments
            * Publishing (transforming and delivering XML content)


            1. ACCESSING THE XML-DOC WEB SITE
            -----------------------------------------------------------------
            As a member of the xml-doc mailing list, you also have access
            to the xml-doc Web site:

            http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xml-doc/

            To use some features of the Web site, you also need to
            choose a username and password and register with Yahoo Groups.


            2. POSTING AND REPLYING TO MESSAGES
            -----------------------------------------------------------------
            To send a message to all the members of the mailing list,
            e-mail it to:

            xml-doc@yahoogroups.com

            To post a message via the Web, visit:

            http://groups.yahoo.com/post/xml-doc/

            By default, when you reply to a message, the reply is sent to
            all members of the list. If you want to reply just to the
            author of a posted message, please specify only the author's
            e-mail address in the "To:" field in your reply.

            Here are a few general tips for posting and replying to
            messages delivered to online mailing lists:

            a. Use meaningful subject lines.

            Try not to use generic, uninformative subject lines such as
            "Easy question," "Help needed," "Urgent," and so on.
            Instead, use meaningful subject lines that will quickly
            make sense to the people whose help you are trying to get.

            b. Quote only relevant parts of messages when replying.

            When replying to a message, please don't quote the author's
            entire message unless it's really necessary. Instead,
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            • xml-doc@yahoogroups.com
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                and others discuss the application of XML, SGML, and related
                technologies to structured authoring, particularly authoring
                of documentation for computer software and hardware.


                These guidelines are sent as a Welcome message to new xml-doc
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                * XML editing applications
                * Single-sourcing for multiple audiences/delivery formats
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                * DocBook and other document-oriented DTDs/schema
                * Converting legacy documents
                * Organizational strategies for structured authoring
                * Document analysis and DTD/schema creation/refinement
                * Transitioning from older (e.g. FrameMaker) environments
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                1. ACCESSING THE XML-DOC WEB SITE
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                all members of the list. If you want to reply just to the
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                Here are a few general tips for posting and replying to
                messages delivered to online mailing lists:

                a. Use meaningful subject lines.

                Try not to use generic, uninformative subject lines such as
                "Easy question," "Help needed," "Urgent," and so on.
                Instead, use meaningful subject lines that will quickly
                make sense to the people whose help you are trying to get.

                b. Quote only relevant parts of messages when replying.

                When replying to a message, please don't quote the author's
                entire message unless it's really necessary. Instead,
                quote just the parts to which you are directly replying, or
                quote only enough to establish a context for your reply.

                c. Avoid idiomatic and colloquial English.

                Be sensitive to the fact that a significant number of
                subscribers to any English-language online mailing list are
                non-native speakers of English. By avoiding idiomatic and
                colloquial language, you ensure that your message will have
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                6. UNDERSTANDING THE ROLE OF THE LIST MODERATOR
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                submitted by members are not reviewed or approved by the list
                owner before being sent on to other members.

                However, the list owner/moderator reserves the right to
                unilaterally remove any member from the list if the moderator
                determines that the member has violated the generally accepted
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                http://groups.yahoo.com/local/guidelines.html


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                you can help promote the list by adding a simple "subscribe"
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                Regards,

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                ..................................................................

                A. PRIVACY POLICY
                -----------------------------------------------------------------
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                addresses for all subscribers to the list, but will not provide
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                third party, at any time, for any purpose. Yahoo Groups itself
                has a separate privacy policy:

                http://privacy.yahoo.com/

                Read their policy carefully and make sure it is acceptable to
                you. If it's not, you should unsubscribe from the list.


                B. "NO SPAM" NOTICE
                -----------------------------------------------------------------
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                * Deceptive promotional messages -- particularly of the type
                "Hey, I just found out about this great website/product" when
                the site/product you "just found out about" is actually
                something you developed or have a financial interest in
                * Product or service announcements that have an excessive
                amount of unobjective marketing hype
                * Any "for sale" announcements; for example, if you have used
                computer equipment or software you're trying to re-sell, or a
                domain name you want to unload, posting an announcement to
                xml-doc is not an appropriate way to try to try to find a buyer

                You should also read the the Yahoo Terms of Service document,
                which contains information about their policy toward spam, along
                with other things.

                http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
                ..................................................................
              • Bill Trippe
                Hello all, Can someone point me to, or send me, some examples of tabular material, coded in XML, that follows the XML CALS table model? I am looking at the XML
                Message 7 of 17 , Feb 6, 2002
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                  Hello all,

                  Can someone point me to, or send me, some examples of tabular material,
                  coded in XML, that follows the XML CALS table model?

                  I am looking at the XML CALS table module:

                  "-//OASIS//DTD XML Exchange Table Model 19990315//EN"

                  and considering it for a DTD I am developing.

                  If someone has both code examples and WYSIWYG, that would be perfect.

                  Thanks,

                  Bill

                  ---------------------------------------
                  Bill Trippe
                  New Millennium Publishing
                  1 West Foster St.
                  Melrose, MA 02176
                  (Office) 781-662-6672
                  btrippe@... <mailto:btrippe@...>
                  http://www.nmpub.com
                • Dave Pawson
                  ... older docbook dtd s use it. But then again, they moved to the oasis table model. HTH DaveP
                  Message 8 of 17 , Feb 6, 2002
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                    At 12:08 06/02/2002 -0500, Bill Trippe wrote:
                    >Hello all,
                    >
                    >Can someone point me to, or send me, some examples of tabular material,
                    >coded in XML, that follows the XML CALS table model?


                    older docbook dtd's use it.
                    But then again, they moved to the oasis table model.

                    HTH DaveP
                  • Norman Walsh
                    ... Actually, -//OASIS//DTD XML Exchange Table Model 19990315//EN is the exchange table model that DocBook will be moving too. DocBook currently uses the
                    Message 9 of 17 , Feb 6, 2002
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                      / Dave Pawson <daveP@...> was heard to say:
                      | At 12:08 06/02/2002 -0500, Bill Trippe wrote:
                      |>Hello all,
                      |>
                      |>Can someone point me to, or send me, some examples of tabular material,
                      |>coded in XML, that follows the XML CALS table model?
                      |
                      | older docbook dtd's use it.
                      | But then again, they moved to the oasis table model.

                      Actually,

                      "-//OASIS//DTD XML Exchange Table Model 19990315//EN"

                      is the exchange table model that DocBook will be moving too. DocBook
                      currently uses the full CALS table model.

                      That said, there aren't a lot of features in full CALS that are both widely
                      used and not in the exchange table model, so almost any example of a CALS table
                      should get you started. See, in particular,

                      http://oasis-open.org/specs/tm9901.html

                      and the table test cases in

                      http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/docbook/testdocs/tests/

                      Be seeing you,
                      norm

                      --
                      Norman Walsh <normyahoo@...> | Simplification good!
                      http://nwalsh.com/ | Oversimplification bad!--Larry
                      | Wall
                    • xml-doc@yahoogroups.com
                      $Id: guidelines.txt,v 1.2 2002/01/02 10:29:51 smith Exp $ xml-doc list guidelines ... xml-doc is a mailing list where writers, developers, vendors, and others
                      Message 10 of 17 , Mar 1, 2002
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                        $Id: guidelines.txt,v 1.2 2002/01/02 10:29:51 smith Exp $

                        xml-doc list guidelines
                        ------------------------------------------------------------------
                        xml-doc is a mailing list where writers, developers, vendors,
                        and others discuss the application of XML, SGML, and related
                        technologies to structured authoring, particularly authoring
                        of documentation for computer software and hardware.


                        These guidelines are sent as a Welcome message to new xml-doc
                        subscribers and once every four weeks to all current subscribers.
                        Please save these guidelines for later reference and take a moment
                        to review them now (if you haven't already) including the PRIVACY
                        POLICY and "NO SPAM" NOTICE at the end.


                        TABLE OF CONTENTS
                        -------------------------------------------------------------------
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                        1. ACCESSING THE XML-DOC WEB SITE
                        2. POSTING AND REPLYING TO MESSAGES
                        3. READING MESSAGES VIA THE WEB AND ACCESSING THE MESSAGE ARCHIVE
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                          xml-doc list guidelines
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                          xml-doc is a mailing list where writers, developers, vendors,
                          and others discuss the application of XML, SGML, and related
                          technologies to structured authoring, particularly authoring
                          of documentation for computer software and hardware.


                          These guidelines are sent as a Welcome message to new xml-doc
                          subscribers and once every four weeks to all current subscribers.
                          Please save these guidelines for later reference and take a moment
                          to review them now (if you haven't already) including the PRIVACY
                          POLICY and "NO SPAM" NOTICE at the end.


                          TABLE OF CONTENTS
                          -------------------------------------------------------------------
                          0. SUGGESTED TOPICS
                          1. ACCESSING THE XML-DOC WEB SITE
                          2. POSTING AND REPLYING TO MESSAGES
                          3. READING MESSAGES VIA THE WEB AND ACCESSING THE MESSAGE ARCHIVE
                          4. UNSUBSCRIBING, RECEIVING DIGESTS, AND PUTTING MAIL ON HOLD
                          5. DEALING WITH E-MAIL ATTACHMENTS
                          6. UNDERSTANDING THE ROLE OF THE LIST MODERATOR
                          7. HELPING TO PROMOTE THE LIST
                          8. RECEIVING FURTHER HELP

                          A. PRIVACY POLICY
                          B. "NO SPAM" NOTICE



                          0. SUGGESTED TOPICS
                          -----------------------------------------------------------------
                          Topics for which list members have a specific interest
                          include:

                          * XML editing applications
                          * Single-sourcing for multiple audiences/delivery formats
                          * XML-based content management systems
                          * DocBook and other document-oriented DTDs/schema
                          * Converting legacy documents
                          * Organizational strategies for structured authoring
                          * Document analysis and DTD/schema creation/refinement
                          * Transitioning from older (e.g. FrameMaker) environments
                          * Publishing (transforming and delivering XML content)


                          1. ACCESSING THE XML-DOC WEB SITE
                          -----------------------------------------------------------------
                          As a member of the xml-doc mailing list, you also have access
                          to the xml-doc Web site:

                          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xml-doc/

                          To use some features of the Web site, you also need to
                          choose a username and password and register with Yahoo Groups.


                          2. POSTING AND REPLYING TO MESSAGES
                          -----------------------------------------------------------------
                          To send a message to all the members of the mailing list,
                          e-mail it to:

                          xml-doc@yahoogroups.com

                          To post a message via the Web, visit:

                          http://groups.yahoo.com/post/xml-doc/

                          By default, when you reply to a message, the reply is sent to
                          all members of the list. If you want to reply just to the
                          author of a posted message, please specify only the author's
                          e-mail address in the "To:" field in your reply.

                          Here are a few general tips for posting and replying to
                          messages delivered to online mailing lists:

                          a. Use meaningful subject lines.

                          Try not to use generic, uninformative subject lines such as
                          "Easy question," "Help needed," "Urgent," and so on.
                          Instead, use meaningful subject lines that will quickly
                          make sense to the people whose help you are trying to get.

                          b. Quote only relevant parts of messages when replying.

                          When replying to a message, please don't quote the author's
                          entire message unless it's really necessary. Instead,
                          quote just the parts to which you are directly replying, or
                          quote only enough to establish a context for your reply.

                          c. Avoid idiomatic and colloquial English.

                          Be sensitive to the fact that a significant number of
                          subscribers to any English-language online mailing list are
                          non-native speakers of English. By avoiding idiomatic and
                          colloquial language, you ensure that your message will have
                          a higher degree of international readability.


                          3. READING MESSAGES VIA THE WEB AND ACCESSING THE MESSAGE ARCHIVE
                          -----------------------------------------------------------------
                          All messages posted to the list are simultaneously posted to
                          xml-doc website and are immediately available at:

                          http://groups.yahoo.com/messages/xml-doc/

                          All messages are also automatically archived. To search
                          the archive, use the search box on the message page. To browse
                          the archive by month, visit the xml-doc main page:

                          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xml-doc/


                          4. UNSUBSCRIBING, RECEIVING DIGESTS, AND PUTTING MAIL ON HOLD
                          -----------------------------------------------------------------
                          You can unsubscribe at any time by e-mailing a message to

                          xml-doc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

                          To specify that you want to receive a digest of messages once
                          a day instead of receiving messages one at a time as they are
                          posted, send a blank e-mail message to:

                          xml-doc-digest@yahoogroups.com

                          To remain a list member, but receive no mail (for example, if
                          you plan to read messages by accessing the archive at the
                          xml-doc Web site or if you want to stop your xml-doc e-mail
                          while you are on a vacation), send a blank e-mail message to:

                          xml-doc-nomail@yahoogroups.com

                          To switch back from the "digest" or "no mail" settings to the
                          "normal" setting, send a blank e-mail message to:

                          xml-doc-normal@yahoogroups.com

                          You can also change your delivery settings from the xml-doc
                          Web site:

                          http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/xml-doc/


                          5. DEALING WITH E-MAIL ATTACHMENTS
                          -----------------------------------------------------------------
                          Any files that members attach to a message are stripped out
                          before the message is distributed to the list; you cannot send
                          or receive attachments via the list.

                          If you have a file you would like to make available to the
                          other members of the list, upload it directly to the file
                          sharing area of the xml-doc Web site:

                          http://groups.yahoo.com/files/xml-doc/

                          All interested members can then access or download the file at
                          their convenience.



                          6. UNDERSTANDING THE ROLE OF THE LIST MODERATOR
                          -----------------------------------------------------------------
                          This is an unmoderated list in the sense that messages
                          submitted by members are not reviewed or approved by the list
                          owner before being sent on to other members.

                          However, the list owner/moderator reserves the right to
                          unilaterally remove any member from the list if the moderator
                          determines that the member has violated the generally accepted
                          standards for mailing-list communication summarized at:

                          http://groups.yahoo.com/local/guidelines.html


                          7. HELPING TO PROMOTE THE LIST
                          -----------------------------------------------------------------
                          If you maintain a technical-writing or XML-related Web page,
                          you can help promote the list by adding a simple "subscribe"
                          link on one of your Web pages. Just cut and paste the
                          following HTML:

                          ..............................................................

                          <form method="GET"
                          action="http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/xml-doc">
                          <table
                          cellpadding="15"
                          border="0"
                          bgcolor="#FFFFCC">
                          <tr>
                          <td
                          align="center">
                          <big><strong>Subscribe to XML-DOC</strong></big>
                          <hr>
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                          name="user"
                          value="enter email address"
                          size=20>
                          <input
                          type="submit"
                          value="Join!">
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                          8. RECEIVING FURTHER HELP
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                          them answered by a real person, send them to:

                          xml-doc-owner@yahoogroups.com


                          Regards,

                          Michael Smith
                          xml-doc moderator and list owner

                          ..................................................................

                          A. PRIVACY POLICY
                          -----------------------------------------------------------------
                          The xml-doc list moderator has a complete list of e-mail
                          addresses for all subscribers to the list, but will not provide
                          any subscriber e-mail addresses or personal information to any
                          third party, at any time, for any purpose. Yahoo Groups itself
                          has a separate privacy policy:

                          http://privacy.yahoo.com/

                          Read their policy carefully and make sure it is acceptable to
                          you. If it's not, you should unsubscribe from the list.


                          B. "NO SPAM" NOTICE
                          -----------------------------------------------------------------
                          Do not post spam to xml-doc. Examples of e-mail messages
                          generally classified as spam include:

                          * Promotional messages not directly related to the topic focus
                          (that is, XML and documentation) stated in the list guidelines
                          * Deceptive promotional messages -- particularly of the type
                          "Hey, I just found out about this great website/product" when
                          the site/product you "just found out about" is actually
                          something you developed or have a financial interest in
                          * Product or service announcements that have an excessive
                          amount of unobjective marketing hype
                          * Any "for sale" announcements; for example, if you have used
                          computer equipment or software you're trying to re-sell, or a
                          domain name you want to unload, posting an announcement to
                          xml-doc is not an appropriate way to try to try to find a buyer

                          You should also read the the Yahoo Terms of Service document,
                          which contains information about their policy toward spam, along
                          with other things.

                          http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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