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  • Janice Friesen
    Even though I learn a lot in the blogs I read, I love this discussion list! This summer, while in Greece and Turkey I thought I should learn to podcast. I
    Message 1 of 9 , Aug 9, 2006
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      Even though I learn a lot in the blogs I read, I love this discussion list!

      This summer, while in Greece and Turkey I thought I should learn to podcast.
      I imagined capturing some interviews with interesting people and sounds of
      calls to prayer in Turkey and other things. My first effort was to record my
      Greek friends singing ³Happy Birthday² to me in Greek
      /) . I linked this to my blog and realized that it really was just a sound
      file and not a podcast. It occurred to me that the difference between these
      two is what Andy explained ­ RSS or subscription. A podcast is something
      you can subscribe to.

      However, I totally identify with the rest of the discussion and with Susan¹s
      suggestions (below). I often read the exciting things that Ed Tech leaders
      are doing, and then go back to school (and life) where people still don¹t
      know what a blog is (although they have heard the term). Much of what I get
      excited about reading this list and blogs just sounds like so much
      impossible hype that doesn¹t really connect to what is happening to
      teachers. Of course there are fantastic teachers like Mark Ahlness out
      there doing it, but they are the exception. Maybe that is OK.

      I wonder if I am thinking more about elementary students and the situation
      is different with Hiigh School classes? I also wonder about subscriptions.
      The difference between push and pull technology REALLY does make a huge
      difference. How can we help teachers to understand that even if it is only
      for their own professional development?

      Good podcasting info:
      I did a search and came up with this Shambles list of sites
      (http://www.shambles.net/pages/learning/infolit/edupodcast/). They look
      good. I remember reading Andy Carvin¹s podcasting primer (I think). I am
      hoping that he will put the link here too.


      On 7/27/06 5:47 AM, "Sue" <sl_info@...> wrote:

      > Hi Lorrie,
      > I hear ya! I did a podcasting workshop for a mix-skilled group of
      > teachers last winter and found I had to emphasize the advantages of
      > "audio in the classroom" rather than podcasting.
      > What the others in the group are emphasizing about podcasting not
      > being about the type of file but the delivery - I found was the exact
      > reason why the group I was facilitating would have a problem getting
      > their head around 'podcasting' - Their audience (the other students,
      > teachers and parents) would not be subscribing to a class' podcasted
      > programs (and teaching that audience would be a whole new kettle of
      > fish!)- so basically these teachers would be taking the extra steps of
      > creating the subscribe-able feed for the rest of us - those who know
      > how to subscribe. Facing reality, I downplayed the 'casting' part and
      > encouraged the teachers to get out their voice recorders and start
      > doing audio projects - there is much for our students to gain here!
      > I see this type of thing happening with my photo blog. Many of my
      > friends love my photos and regularly visit the blog but they don't
      > have a clue about subscribing and how it would make their life
      > easier...all in due time, I say. (However, since the majority of this
      > group are email users, I've tried to help them out and subscribed them
      > through an email service...treading on the line of "push" technology
      > rather than user-pull.)
      > An interesting study would be to discover who are the subscribers to
      > the typical Grade School podcast - is it the parents, the other grade
      > 5 students - other grade school teachers - those people you want as
      > listeners or just all us techy-types who have learned how to use an
      > aggregator - don't get me wrong, I think this latter group are worthy
      > listeners (and probably the ones most likely to give online feedback)
      > but if you asked the grade school that is podcasting, I'm sure that's
      > not who they are doing the show for.
      > So I guess the expanded question is - if your audience aren't typical
      > 'subscribers' or aggregator users should you bother taking that 'next
      > step' and making the audio a podcast? Why not just post the mp3 file
      > - as you have suggested? I say GO FOR IT!!
      > I think getting basic-skilled teachers enthused about using audio in
      > the classroom - is good all around - and hey, if you can get them to
      > post it (not podcasting) and make it public, even better! Eventually
      > they'll come around to the need to have it podcasted and not just posted.
      > When a basic skilled teacher is asking "Can I do a Podcast?" are they
      > really saying I want to broadcast my audio and allow people to
      > subscribe to it... I don't think so. They probably just want to make a
      > radio show, allow their students to do audio projects or do an audio
      > interview. But the Podcast hype is upon us...The cart is before the horse.
      > To me, it's not the 'casting' part of this craze that's so exciting
      > for education and learning - it's the audio part.
      > Good luck with your presentation - I hope you let us know how it went!
      > Sue
      > =====================================================
      > Susan Lister, MA-ET
      > Education Technology Consultant
      > Currently posted in Colombo, Sri Lanka
      > website - www.newmediaworkshops.com/listerportfolio/
      > =====================================================
      > .

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