Hi again, John:
> >2. Discernment is your responsibility.<
> This depends if I have all the data or not. The carpet salesman may
> influence me into buying one of his products. If he admits up front that
> carpets are woven by children in India who are effectively slaves being
> robbed of their formative years then my decision would be different! If he
> doesn't tell me then it may be good business practice but I would feel
> manipulated nonetheless. Of course, you could argue that I should have
> but isn't it difficult to know what the right questions are?
Far be it from a gentle soul like me to argue, but...
You could put me in a headlock after we've played an hour of full court
you still won't change my mind about this one. If you don't know what
information you need,
how can you expect the speaker to know? Beside, there are too many variables
discernment anyone's job other than the listener.
The speaker may be insane.
The speaker may be ignorant.
The speaker may be deceived.
The speaker may be dishonest.
You just can't count on others to provide full disclosure. You've got to be
discerning. (I'll spare the list the details of how I was enormously
deceived earlier in life and how that burned this belief into my brain.)
> >You might be surprised to learn that I picked that idea up from the
> >States Marine Corps NCO Training Manual when I was a sergeant in the
> Is that where the saying "swear like troopers" comes from? :)
Marines don't have troopers, so probably not, though it would be well
I said they taught it, not that anyone listened. :-)
> If I've interpreted your posts correctly then I
> assume you would tend to estimate the value of a person who swears lower
> than one who doesn't. What about all the other flaws - deserting your
> family, adultery, drug abuse?
No, I'm not talking about comparative or personal value, but the value of
the specific behavior. Obviously, I wouldn't set a positive value on the
other behaviors you listed either.
> >So ... swearing is a sign of immaturity?
> Ouch! You got me there! Could be you're right. What about all those
> Americans starting up Internet companies and becoming trillionaires
> overnight? I mean the kind of immaturity associated with innocence, lack
> preconceived ideas, creative provcation etc.