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    Afghan war has no end in sight Sat, 11 Oct 2008 http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=71884§ionid=351020403 Air Marshal Jock Stirrup Top British
    Message 1 of 1 , Nov 22, 2008
      'Afghan war has no end in sight'
      Sat, 11 Oct 2008

      Air Marshal Jock Stirrup Top British commander has warned that war
      in Afghanistan shows 'no end point' and foreign troops need to hand
      over the power to Afghans. The Chief of Britain's Defense Staff,
      Marshal Jock Stirrup, has told The Times that British troops are on
      a 'journey in both Afghanistan and Iraq that never finishes.' The
      Air Chief Marshal echoed the remarks of the UK's Brigadier Mark
      Carleton-Smith who had earlier stressed that the public 'should not
      expect a decisive military victory' over the Taliban in Afghanistan.

      Chief Stirrup said: "We should avoid the use of words like 'win'
      and 'lose' in the context of Afghanistan. It's not that sort of
      enterprise…Afghanistan is a very backward country (militarily) it's
      going to be some years before we finish that project." He also noted
      that the international military mission should help the Afghan
      government re-claim power and extend it to the people in order for
      them to handle security. Stirrup noted that complications in both
      the Iraq and Afghanistan wars prevent a declaration of victory by
      military missions in both countries. "In both cases it's a journey.

      If you're talking about the development of a country, it's a journey
      that never finishes. There's no end point," he said. At least 100
      British soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan since the beginning
      of the 'war on terror' in October, 2001. The UK has around 8,000
      troops there. After the 9/11 event in 2001, the US led an invasion
      of Afghanistan. Despite killing and displacing thousands of Afghans,
      the international forces have not been successful in capturing
      Taliban or al-Qaeda leaders. The US is now considering entering into
      discussion with Taliban warlords who have reportedly gathered in
      Saudi Arabia for negotiations with representatives from the Afghan


      Taliban Control Half of Countryþ
      War News: By New Trend's Media Monitor
      [We strive for accuracy. Corrections are welcome.]

      Afghanistan: Taliban control Half the Country: Areas in the West,
      North and around Kabul also see Increasing Taliban Activity.
      Talks with U.S. out of the question, says Talib commander.

      November 15, 2008: In an hour long interview with the BBC, Taliban
      spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid answered questions pertaining to various
      rumors and propaganda spread worldwide by the Zionist media. He said
      that half of Afghanistan is now under Taliban control and education
      for girls has been implemented in these areas. He said the Taliban
      had nothing to do with the criminal attack on school girls in
      Kandahar in which acid was used [and which was noted by President
      Bush to denounce the Taliban.] He said President Elect Obama's plan
      to send more troops to Afghanistan will not deter the resistance. The
      U.S., he said, is facing defeat here and increase in troops will not
      change the situation. He said he does not know Osama bin Laden's
      whereabout but he knows that Mullah Umar is in a safe place. He
      categorically rejected western news stories that the Taliban are
      involved in the drug trade.

      November 14, 2008: U.S. and Pakistani military forces launched a
      joint operation against the Taliban nicknamed "Lionheart," with the
      Americans operating in Kunar province [Afghanistan] and the Paks in
      Bajaur [Pakistan]. [Source Fox TV.] U.S. forces are also going after
      the Islamic fighters of Jalaluddin Haqqani's group and are reporting
      that they brought in air strikes which killed 10 Islamic fighters.

      Just south of Kabul, gunmen killed two of Karzai's national
      intelligence officers and one police officer.

      November 13, 2008: In the Nangarhar province [extreme south on Pak
      border] two American tanks were destroyed in a Taliban attack. Two
      U.S. soldiers were killed and 78 Afghan Karzai troops were wounded.
      The U.S. says it was a "suicide" attack but the Taliban say roadside
      bombs were used. After the attack, U.S. forces sealed off the Torkhum-
      Jalalabad highway. Pakistani [Urdu language] newspapers say that
      after the ambush, U.S. forces panicked and went on the rampage and
      fired in all directions with heavy weapons killing 40 civilians and
      wounding 55 in the area villages.

      The same day, British forces came under Taliban attack in the Garmser
      area of Helmand province [west central Afghanistan]. Two elite troops
      of the British Royal Marines were killed and the others retreated in
      great haste.

      November 9: A Taliban martyrdom operator drove a white Toyota car
      into a Spanish armored unit of NATO and then exploded, in the
      Shindand area, 80 km south of Herat. Two Spanish troops were kiled
      and 4 wounded.

      November 3. In Zabul province, district Chopan, [southwestern
      Afghanistan], a Taliban unit fought an hour long pitched battle with
      Karzai's troops heavily armed by the U.S., and routed them. Eight
      Karzais were killed and three of their oil tankers and 4 trucks set
      on fire.

      In Kabul, A French aid worker was kidnapped and his assistant from
      Karzai's intelligence agency was killed.

      In a radio interview, senior Taliban commander Mullah Sabir said
      there is no question of talks or negotiations with the U.S. He added
      that the Jihad will continue until it results in an Islamic state in
      Afghanistan after the expulsion of the occupiers. [Source: Urdu daily

      German troops Need Liquor to survive in Afghanistan:

      The German military contingent in Afghanistan was 260,000 gallons of
      beer and 18,000 gallons of wine during 2007. Reports say they are
      still too scared to go into Taliban controlled areas.


      Afghan article says US Bin-Ladin hunt phoney
      Juan Cole
      Informed Comment
      Monday, November 17, 2008

      The USG Open Source Center translates an article from the Persian
      Afghan press alleging that French troops were at one point close to
      capturing Usamah Bin Ladin in Afghanistan, but that American forces
      stopped them from doing so. It says that a forthcoming French
      documentary containing interviews with the French soldiers provides
      proof for the allegation. The argument is that the Bush
      administration needed Bin Ladin to be at large in order to justify
      its military expansionism.

      Afghan article says US Bin-Ladin hunt phoney
      Friday, October 3, 2008
      Document Type: OSC Translated Text

      Text of article, "Bin-Ladin on the run? The rumour which was fact",
      by Afghan independent secular daily newspaper Hasht-e Sobh on 29

      So, the rumour was right: French soldiers trapped Usamah Bin-Ladin,
      but were not allowed by the Americans to arrest the apparent fugitive
      leader of Al-Qa`idah. A Bin-Ladin documentary just released by French
      documentary cinema examines this issue, an issue which has led to
      heated debate in the French media.

      This French documentary shows how the Americans are interested in
      continuing the game, a bloody and expensive game whose victims are
      only the unprotected and local people of our dry and dusty country.
      It was last year that rumours spread about this report in Kabul, but
      it has not been taken seriously by the media. But watching this
      revealing French documentary changes the rumours into disturbing
      facts. "Bin Laden, the failings of a manhunt", produced by Emmanuel
      Razavi and Eric de Lavarene, two French filmmakers and reporters,
      assesses and confirms the claims of French soldiers that they could
      have killed Usamah within two operations, but the American forces
      prevented them. This film has not been broadcast publicly yet and is
      to be broadcast by Planet, a French network.

      Even though French soldiers have insisted on this in the battlefield
      many times, the Elysees Palace in Paris and the White House in
      America have rejected this, and the Afghan leadership does not have
      any information about it yet!

      The main question that arises is the extent to which the "Bin Laden
      on the run" project is a problem for America and Afghanistan. Seven
      years of suicide bombing and explosions, blood and violence, unmanned
      fighter planes, and old vehicles full of explosives, all to catch a
      long-bearded Arab whom America apparently hates? And an Arab who
      worked for the CIA in the name of Allah, and who now, also in the
      name of that same Allah, has conducted a jihad against that same CIA?

      Facing the facts in this Usamah film is a bitter and disturbing
      experience and will make you nervous and wish that what it is that
      you are watching is just a baseless rumour, or a figment of
      Hollywood's imagination. But it is not. The pictures are real and you
      are facing a debate in documentary form. The only justification for
      the bloody presence of America in Afghanistan is the ambiguous
      existence of Usamah Bin-Ladin and the Al-Qa'idah terrorist network.

      George Bush, with his "war on terror" project, has transformed the
      middle east and Afghanistan into an inflamed bomb ready to explode,
      but has not found out anything about his beloved lost Usamah Bin-
      Ladin so far.

      What is seen, and the film also emphases this, is that all these
      slogans, this fighting and killing are a game, a painful and
      prolonged game whose end even the players do not know and which is
      running out of control. Apparently, it is a game of cat and mouse,
      just like "Tom and Jerry", the famous cartoon. But it is a reality
      that the stubborn one from Texas does not want to catch the mouse -
      unlike credulous Tom - and that the long-bearded Wahhabi Arab does
      not want to hide - unlike the intelligent and roaming Jerry. Their
      prolonged game has made not only the audiences tired but has also
      transformed the playground into a big pool of blood.

      There have always been questions that neither the politicians have
      been willing to answer, nor the independent western media to raise.
      If Usamah is not the lost one of the Americans, then who is? What are
      the Americans searching for in Afghanistan and who are they looking
      for? The main media in the West remained silent before the report of
      the Usamah Bin-Ladin arrest by French soldiers. And, through a news
      boycott, they reduced a certain fact to a rumour.

      Certainly, they will do the same before this film, too. But instead
      they will try to complicate the scenario. More painful than anything
      else is the political fair in Kabul, a poor fair where everyone
      offers his despicable commodity - a combination of generous western
      customers and thankful sellers of the country. Everyone knows the
      fact, like "an obvious secret", but no one wants to irritate the
      delicate minds of their nervous guests, guests who will be staying at
      home until the new year.

      Politicians try to forget such news in Kabul, and this is the advice
      they give to the people. Forgetting and ignoring such facts is
      possible, but how can we forget and ignore the bombs exploding next
      to our houses every day?

      Bombs which sometimes rise from the ground and sometimes descend from
      the air.

      (Description of Source: Kabul Hasht-e-Sobh in Dari Kabul Hasht-e Sobh
      in Dari - Eight-page secular daily launched in May 2007; editor-in-
      chief, Qasim Akhgar, is a political analyst and Head of the
      Association for the Freedom of Speech. )

      Juan Cole is President of the Global Americana Institute



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