Taliban Refuses Talks with US
- 'Afghan war has no end in sight'
Sat, 11 Oct 2008
Air Marshal Jock Stirrup Top British commander has warned that war
in Afghanistan shows 'no end point' and foreign troops need to hand
over the power to Afghans. The Chief of Britain's Defense Staff,
Marshal Jock Stirrup, has told The Times that British troops are on
a 'journey in both Afghanistan and Iraq that never finishes.' The
Air Chief Marshal echoed the remarks of the UK's Brigadier Mark
Carleton-Smith who had earlier stressed that the public 'should not
expect a decisive military victory' over the Taliban in Afghanistan.
Chief Stirrup said: "We should avoid the use of words like 'win'
and 'lose' in the context of Afghanistan. It's not that sort of
enterprise Afghanistan is a very backward country (militarily) it's
going to be some years before we finish that project." He also noted
that the international military mission should help the Afghan
government re-claim power and extend it to the people in order for
them to handle security. Stirrup noted that complications in both
the Iraq and Afghanistan wars prevent a declaration of victory by
military missions in both countries. "In both cases it's a journey.
If you're talking about the development of a country, it's a journey
that never finishes. There's no end point," he said. At least 100
British soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan since the beginning
of the 'war on terror' in October, 2001. The UK has around 8,000
troops there. After the 9/11 event in 2001, the US led an invasion
of Afghanistan. Despite killing and displacing thousands of Afghans,
the international forces have not been successful in capturing
Taliban or al-Qaeda leaders. The US is now considering entering into
discussion with Taliban warlords who have reportedly gathered in
Saudi Arabia for negotiations with representatives from the Afghan
Taliban Control Half of Countryþ
War News: By New Trend's Media Monitor
[We strive for accuracy. Corrections are welcome.]
Afghanistan: Taliban control Half the Country: Areas in the West,
North and around Kabul also see Increasing Taliban Activity.
Talks with U.S. out of the question, says Talib commander.
November 15, 2008: In an hour long interview with the BBC, Taliban
spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid answered questions pertaining to various
rumors and propaganda spread worldwide by the Zionist media. He said
that half of Afghanistan is now under Taliban control and education
for girls has been implemented in these areas. He said the Taliban
had nothing to do with the criminal attack on school girls in
Kandahar in which acid was used [and which was noted by President
Bush to denounce the Taliban.] He said President Elect Obama's plan
to send more troops to Afghanistan will not deter the resistance. The
U.S., he said, is facing defeat here and increase in troops will not
change the situation. He said he does not know Osama bin Laden's
whereabout but he knows that Mullah Umar is in a safe place. He
categorically rejected western news stories that the Taliban are
involved in the drug trade.
November 14, 2008: U.S. and Pakistani military forces launched a
joint operation against the Taliban nicknamed "Lionheart," with the
Americans operating in Kunar province [Afghanistan] and the Paks in
Bajaur [Pakistan]. [Source Fox TV.] U.S. forces are also going after
the Islamic fighters of Jalaluddin Haqqani's group and are reporting
that they brought in air strikes which killed 10 Islamic fighters.
Just south of Kabul, gunmen killed two of Karzai's national
intelligence officers and one police officer.
November 13, 2008: In the Nangarhar province [extreme south on Pak
border] two American tanks were destroyed in a Taliban attack. Two
U.S. soldiers were killed and 78 Afghan Karzai troops were wounded.
The U.S. says it was a "suicide" attack but the Taliban say roadside
bombs were used. After the attack, U.S. forces sealed off the Torkhum-
Jalalabad highway. Pakistani [Urdu language] newspapers say that
after the ambush, U.S. forces panicked and went on the rampage and
fired in all directions with heavy weapons killing 40 civilians and
wounding 55 in the area villages.
The same day, British forces came under Taliban attack in the Garmser
area of Helmand province [west central Afghanistan]. Two elite troops
of the British Royal Marines were killed and the others retreated in
November 9: A Taliban martyrdom operator drove a white Toyota car
into a Spanish armored unit of NATO and then exploded, in the
Shindand area, 80 km south of Herat. Two Spanish troops were kiled
and 4 wounded.
November 3. In Zabul province, district Chopan, [southwestern
Afghanistan], a Taliban unit fought an hour long pitched battle with
Karzai's troops heavily armed by the U.S., and routed them. Eight
Karzais were killed and three of their oil tankers and 4 trucks set
In Kabul, A French aid worker was kidnapped and his assistant from
Karzai's intelligence agency was killed.
In a radio interview, senior Taliban commander Mullah Sabir said
there is no question of talks or negotiations with the U.S. He added
that the Jihad will continue until it results in an Islamic state in
Afghanistan after the expulsion of the occupiers. [Source: Urdu daily
German troops Need Liquor to survive in Afghanistan:
The German military contingent in Afghanistan was 260,000 gallons of
beer and 18,000 gallons of wine during 2007. Reports say they are
still too scared to go into Taliban controlled areas.
Afghan article says US Bin-Ladin hunt phoney
Monday, November 17, 2008
The USG Open Source Center translates an article from the Persian
Afghan press alleging that French troops were at one point close to
capturing Usamah Bin Ladin in Afghanistan, but that American forces
stopped them from doing so. It says that a forthcoming French
documentary containing interviews with the French soldiers provides
proof for the allegation. The argument is that the Bush
administration needed Bin Ladin to be at large in order to justify
its military expansionism.
Afghan article says US Bin-Ladin hunt phoney
Friday, October 3, 2008
Document Type: OSC Translated Text
Text of article, "Bin-Ladin on the run? The rumour which was fact",
by Afghan independent secular daily newspaper Hasht-e Sobh on 29
So, the rumour was right: French soldiers trapped Usamah Bin-Ladin,
but were not allowed by the Americans to arrest the apparent fugitive
leader of Al-Qa`idah. A Bin-Ladin documentary just released by French
documentary cinema examines this issue, an issue which has led to
heated debate in the French media.
This French documentary shows how the Americans are interested in
continuing the game, a bloody and expensive game whose victims are
only the unprotected and local people of our dry and dusty country.
It was last year that rumours spread about this report in Kabul, but
it has not been taken seriously by the media. But watching this
revealing French documentary changes the rumours into disturbing
facts. "Bin Laden, the failings of a manhunt", produced by Emmanuel
Razavi and Eric de Lavarene, two French filmmakers and reporters,
assesses and confirms the claims of French soldiers that they could
have killed Usamah within two operations, but the American forces
prevented them. This film has not been broadcast publicly yet and is
to be broadcast by Planet, a French network.
Even though French soldiers have insisted on this in the battlefield
many times, the Elysees Palace in Paris and the White House in
America have rejected this, and the Afghan leadership does not have
any information about it yet!
The main question that arises is the extent to which the "Bin Laden
on the run" project is a problem for America and Afghanistan. Seven
years of suicide bombing and explosions, blood and violence, unmanned
fighter planes, and old vehicles full of explosives, all to catch a
long-bearded Arab whom America apparently hates? And an Arab who
worked for the CIA in the name of Allah, and who now, also in the
name of that same Allah, has conducted a jihad against that same CIA?
Facing the facts in this Usamah film is a bitter and disturbing
experience and will make you nervous and wish that what it is that
you are watching is just a baseless rumour, or a figment of
Hollywood's imagination. But it is not. The pictures are real and you
are facing a debate in documentary form. The only justification for
the bloody presence of America in Afghanistan is the ambiguous
existence of Usamah Bin-Ladin and the Al-Qa'idah terrorist network.
George Bush, with his "war on terror" project, has transformed the
middle east and Afghanistan into an inflamed bomb ready to explode,
but has not found out anything about his beloved lost Usamah Bin-
Ladin so far.
What is seen, and the film also emphases this, is that all these
slogans, this fighting and killing are a game, a painful and
prolonged game whose end even the players do not know and which is
running out of control. Apparently, it is a game of cat and mouse,
just like "Tom and Jerry", the famous cartoon. But it is a reality
that the stubborn one from Texas does not want to catch the mouse -
unlike credulous Tom - and that the long-bearded Wahhabi Arab does
not want to hide - unlike the intelligent and roaming Jerry. Their
prolonged game has made not only the audiences tired but has also
transformed the playground into a big pool of blood.
There have always been questions that neither the politicians have
been willing to answer, nor the independent western media to raise.
If Usamah is not the lost one of the Americans, then who is? What are
the Americans searching for in Afghanistan and who are they looking
for? The main media in the West remained silent before the report of
the Usamah Bin-Ladin arrest by French soldiers. And, through a news
boycott, they reduced a certain fact to a rumour.
Certainly, they will do the same before this film, too. But instead
they will try to complicate the scenario. More painful than anything
else is the political fair in Kabul, a poor fair where everyone
offers his despicable commodity - a combination of generous western
customers and thankful sellers of the country. Everyone knows the
fact, like "an obvious secret", but no one wants to irritate the
delicate minds of their nervous guests, guests who will be staying at
home until the new year.
Politicians try to forget such news in Kabul, and this is the advice
they give to the people. Forgetting and ignoring such facts is
possible, but how can we forget and ignore the bombs exploding next
to our houses every day?
Bombs which sometimes rise from the ground and sometimes descend from
(Description of Source: Kabul Hasht-e-Sobh in Dari Kabul Hasht-e Sobh
in Dari - Eight-page secular daily launched in May 2007; editor-in-
chief, Qasim Akhgar, is a political analyst and Head of the
Association for the Freedom of Speech. )
Juan Cole is President of the Global Americana Institute
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