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    The Times newspaper (the Old Lady of London) attacked Gilad Atzmon, Paul Eisen and Israel Shamir again. The article by the well-known Zionist and Blairite,
    Message 1 of 1 , Jul 4 8:52 AM
      The Times newspaper (the Old Lady of London) attacked Gilad Atzmon,
      Paul Eisen and Israel Shamir again. The article by the well-known
      Zionist and Blairite, David Aaronovitch can be seen on



      About Aaronovitch:

      a view from the Left:

      A view from the Right:


      Here are some responses:

      From Israel Shamir to the Times:

      Dear Sir,

      Re: Aaronovitch How Did the Far Left

      To my annoyance, this is a second time in one month your newspaper
      describes me as a "Swedish fascist" who "claims to be a Russian Jew
      from Jaffa" (Aaronovitch) or a "Swedish anti-Semite" (Pollard). When
      such ridiculous claims are published by obscure ADL-financed
      publications, one can shrug it off. When these claims are repeated by
      what was once the leading newspaper of the Empire, one is amazed by
      the lack of professional approach. A Times correspondent in Tel Aviv
      can visit me anytime and check whether I am a six-foot-tall blond
      Aryan supremacist with Swedish accent or not; there are thousands of
      Israelis who know me since 1968 when I came to Israel from the Soviet
      Union. I published many books including a translation of Joyce's
      Ulysses, I served in an elite unit of the Israeli army, I was seen at
      the demonstrations in Bethlehem and Ramallah. I do belong to the
      Israeli Left. Israeli newspapers wrote about me many times; my
      biography was researched and combed by friends and enemies; but none
      rushed to reprint these silly rumours. If an overseas phone call is
      too expensive for you, the newspaper could ask Tim Sebastian or other
      old BBC hands, for I worked there in 1970s.

      I do not mind being attacked by the likes of Pollard (his own article
      begins with: 'I am a warmonger. I am bloodthirsty. I am rabid.') and
      Aaronovitch (a Zionist cheerleader of the Iraqi War) – actually their
      support would be a greater embarrassment. But your readers deserve a
      better researched reporting. They can
      http://www.israelshamir.net/english/Times_attacks.htm where they can
      view so many letters to the Times you chose not to publish.

      They are also entitled to know that the Aaronovitch's article is but a
      rehash of a lengthy piece by an ostensibly anti-zionist Jewish Trot
      from JPUK on a far left site
      http://www.marxists.de/racism/antisemitism/counterpunch.htm ,
      including quotes and errors. While these Trots do not mind to have a
      certified warmonger and Zionist as their bedfellow, all antiwar and
      antizionist forces may postpone their strife until better days.

      Israel Shamir


      P.O. Box 23714 Jaffa-Tel Aviv 61236 Israel


      From Rowan Berkeley to the Times:

      Dear Sir

      It is intriguing to see Mr Aaronovitch straying from his usual
      Grauniad territory into yours, because it suggests an attempt to
      outflank the leftists and centrists from the right, before they manage
      to slip the leash and combine their various anti-zionist arguments
      into one broad front.

      I say "leftists and centrists", because despite Mr Aaronovitch's
      "browns under the bed" scare tactics, there are few or no right
      wingers involved in anti-zionism. There are merely different schools
      of thought regarding the nature of, and consequently the correct mode
      of attack upon, Zionism, and the undeniable climate of global Jewish
      privilege that sustains it.

      According to the perpetually recycled world-war-two hysteria that Mr
      Aaronovitch and the neoconservative movement (odd bedfellows, one
      would have thought) seek to implant upon the twenty first century,
      "the Jews" are still "the canaries in the coal mine of freedom" and
      anything that discommodes any of their many and ferociously
      antagonistic factions calls forth "beware the fascist beast" rhetoric.

      However, the real world has moved on since world-war-two, and the
      substantive questions of holocaust numerology, comparative atrocity
      propaganda, blood libels, etc., are less important to most real world
      players than the psychology of perpetual Jewish endangeredness itself,
      which fits ill on a global super-power with special protective
      legislation enforced in all the "free countries of the world".

      Mr Aaronovitch would be well advised to dismount from his "anti-nazi"
      high horse and inspect his troops. There may be fewer of them than he

      yours sincerely, etc

      Berkeley to Aaronovitch:

      Dear David Aaronovitch,
      I know Atzmon and Shamir personally, though not Eisen or Zundel.
      The four of them seem to constitute a continuum of intensity of
      challenge to the no-go nature of the Holocaust. Gilad is at the soft
      end of this continuum, which is why he is attacked most often, as
      being the easiest target; then comes Eisen, then Shamir, then Zundel
      (the only non-Jew - your description of Shamir as a 'Swedish fascist'
      is grounded solely in a decontextualised rumour, which is itself based
      on the simple fact that he has, apparently, an alter ego under the
      name Joren Jermas : I invite you to discover any writing by this
      Jermas, nazistic or otherwise).
      Maybe the distinction between "anti-Semitism" and "anti-Zionism" is
      being not blurred but CHALLENGED, or maybe DECONSTRUCTED?

      From Nancy Harb Almendras to the Times:

      Dear Editor,

      Enough with the red herrings and the obfuscations (David Aaronovitch,
      June 28) which abound in "How Far did the far left manage to slip into
      bed with the Jew-hating right?" Good grief. The children of Zahra
      Zaboun are heartsick because she died recently at an Israeli
      checkpoint. Her crime? She wanted to attend Friday prayers.

      The pages of your opinion section should be railing against this
      Israeli crime against humanity instead of smearing Gilad Atzmon, who
      courageously left Israel because he could no longer tolerate the
      abuses of Zionism. Your editorial writers might question why Johnny
      Thalijiah, a Greek Orthodox altar boy, was shot by an Israeli sniper
      while standing around his cousin's store, instead of Aaronvitch's
      inanities re Atzmon. Your editorial writers might look up Maria
      Khoury, the Christian Palestinian who picked up bullets off her son's
      bed and wondered what offended the Israeli soldiers who fired them.
      Was it the sign fron the World Council of Churches that said "End the
      Occupation" she wondered?

      Atzmon empathizes with the suffering of the Palestinians, and has won
      the heart of this Palestinian, and I say with certainty, knowing my
      people, that I am among a majority, in spite of the unnamed
      Palestinian musician who refused to work with Atzmon, to whom
      Aaranovitch refers. Aaraonvich throws out obfuscations in order to
      keep the British public ignorant of Zionist atrocities. It is clear
      that Aztmon works in the interests of humanity, while Aaronvitch
      serves a government which perpetuates crimes against it.

      Nancy Harb Almendras

      From Eric Walberg

      Dear Editor,

      In "How did the far Left manage to slip into bed with the Jew-hating
      Right?" (28/6/5), David Aaronovitch states that Atzmon's "tirades have
      got him into trouble with more than just the Jewish community." As if
      that is some kind of no-no. Maybe the Jewish community is wrong about
      certain things. Maybe we are all wrong about certain things. Rather
      than rushing to sling mud at brave, lonely voices trying to set the
      record straight, maybe we should set aside our prejudices and listen
      to them.

      Does Aaronovitch think that Atzmon takes his brave stands just for a
      lark, or because he is uninformed or "a silly boy"? I suggest he look
      at the fine philosophical writings of Atzmon at www.gilad.co.uk and
      take pride in a fellow Jew who is willing to take on the formidable
      Jewish establishment, calling it to account for the crimes that Israel
      commits every day in its name.

      Aaronovitch is terrible interested in the 'blood libel' tradition in
      European folklore and makes this a central argument in his polemic
      against Atzmon. While we have no way of knowing whether medieval Jews
      actually drank non-Jewish children's blood, we do have Mordechai
      Vanunu's uncle on video screaming "I will drink his blood!" after
      Vanunu was 'freed' for telling the world the truth about Israel's
      nuclear weapons program. Funny this fascination with drinking blood
      among Jews. Brrrr.

      And how he LOVES to throw around 'anti-semite' and 'fascist'. Israel
      Shamir is not a fascist and I hope he can successfully sue Aaronovitch
      for this slander. Is this mud slinging an example of the great Jewish
      legal principle 'An eye for an eye etc'? Yes, yes - revennnge! Perhaps
      Shakespeare's Shylock is the real Jew after all, despite Hollywood's
      recent attempt to dress him up as a misunderstood victim of (yes!)

      Aaronovitch casually refers to "Eisen's Holocaust-denying article"
      though the article in question is no such thing. What it 'denies' is
      what Israel and its Zionist fanatics have turned a terrible tragedy -
      the murder of many people - into. These murders are now the basis of a
      sick cult which is promoted to perpetrate yet more racist murders,
      this time of Palestinians. It is also based on dubious stories, many
      of which are fantasies and outright lies. Mr. Eisen merely protests
      the perverse use that the 'Holocaust' as the tragedy is officially
      called is being put to IN HIS NAME (as a Jew). All historical events
      need to be studied and documented, especially when they are tooted as
      being beyond all discussion, as the
      Holocaust is.

      Sure, call Atzmon "cretinous" or a "disorganised racist", despite his
      brilliant writings, outstanding musicianship and courageous rejection
      of the hideous racist state of Israel and his concern for its victims.
      Keep digging David. There's lots more muck down there. But be careful
      your house of cards doesn't collapse on you. Jews have a long history
      of building up wealth and control in their 'host' societies, only to
      'go beyond the Pale' and find themselves expelled or stripped of their
      wealth or worse. I think we can all agree that Fukiyama's 'end of
      history' was a trifle premature. That goes for the history of the Jews
      too. Atzmon is merely trying to stop this reckless plunge by his
      coreligionists (or co-ethnics or whatever) into the abyss. You should
      be thanking him and Eisen, instead of slinging mud at them.

      Eric Walberg

      From Joachim Martillo

      The Aaronovitch column is a pastiche of libels of Atzmon and Shamir
      that Plaut and others have been circulating around Israel action
      groups in the USA and (I assume) the UK for the past few years.[1]
      There is probably an ethical issue merely in Aaronovitch' claim to
      have authored the article.

      I am more concerned with an emerging pattern of attempts to silence
      discussion both of ethnic Ashkenazi behavior in English-speaking
      countries and also of Zionist colonizer behavior in Stolen and
      Occupied Palestine. This pattern is not new. Ethnic Ashkenazi
      communities were characterized by a culture that strictly controlled
      deviance and divergent opinions among members until well into the 19th
      century. Moreover in Eastern and Central Europe ethnic Ashkenazim
      have a long history of resorting to slander, libel, harrassment by
      frivolous law suits and other coercive tactics to silence external
      critics of ethnic Ashkenazi behavior.[2]

      Over the past few months, Dershowitz has worked on blocking the
      publication of Finkelstein's latest book. Charles Jacobs and the
      David Project have put together a smear campaign (Columbia Unbecoming)
      against Joseph Massad and other professors and preceptors at Columbia.
      There is the beginning of a smear campaign at Princeton against
      Khalidi to prevent an offer of a professorship. Now we are seeing
      simultaneous attacks on Israelis and ex-Israelis sympathetic to
      Palestinians. The targets seem to include Gilad Atzmon, Israel Shamir,
      Jeff Halper, Avi Shlaim and Ilan Pappe, and there seems to be a fairly
      clever attempt to get them to attack each other. Sympathetic non-Jews
      like Susan Blackwell are apparently also on the radar screen. In
      Boston, Fox and the Boston Herald have a long running smear campaign
      against Yousuf Abou al-Laban and other members of the ISB. Charles
      Jacobs and the JCRC Israel Action Center seem to be involved just as
      they also seem to be involved in the campaign against Somerville
      Divestment, in slandering me and in bribing Mayor Curtatone with a
      free trip to Israel (in part sponsored by the AJC).

      A lot of the material involved in these campaigns is old and has made
      the rounds in Israel advocacy sessions for a few years, but these
      actions to defame pro-Palestinian activists seem coordinated, and one
      has too wonder from whom Maccoby and Greenstein are taking marching
      orders in the attempt to get pro-Palestinian activists to start
      bickering among themselves in order to create a distraction from the
      ongoing and historic crimes of Zionism. Maccoby and Greenstein (and
      Aaronovitch for that matter) seem too low in the food chain to be in
      on the planning, but someone or some group seems to be supplying them
      with a standard script, and I have the feeling that I am experiencing
      a rerun of standard racist Ashkenazi tactics that have been applied
      since Yiddish newspapers in the USA at the beginning of the 20th
      century were attacked, ransacked or burnt down by Zionists when the
      editors penned editorials suggesting that some of the tactics racist
      Zionist colonizer militias used against the native population of
      Palestine were questionable and unethical.

      1] I read the accusation that Shamir was a Swedish Fascist about 2
      years ago, and Shamir easily refuted it. A real editor would fire a
      columnist that used the newspaper to spread demonstrably false propaganda.

      [2] The behavior of ethnic Ashkenazim in the cattle and meat industry
      in the Eastern Areas of the German Empire provided a particularly
      nasty example of such collective pressure tactics against non-Jews
      (and sometimes Jews of other ethnicities) that tried to get a share of
      the market. Ashkenazim used vertical, horizontal and middle market
      collusion and restraint of trade to bankrupt non-Ashkenazim in the
      industry, and, when all else failed, they maliciously used the courts.
      To be fair, I have to note that such behavior is common among
      practically all ethnic groups in Eastern Europe and the Balkans.



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