Re: Is the Islamic Scripture (Kuran) really "peaceful"?
- The Bible has some interesting quotes too...
If a man marries a woman and discovers she is not a virgin, she is to
stoned to death (Deut. 22:13)
And if a man sell a dwelling house in a walled city, then he may
it within a whole year after it is sold; within a full year may he
it. (Leviticus 25:29)
A stubborn or rebellious son shall be brought to the authorities and
stoned to death (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)
It is an abomination to trim the hair on one's temples or to trim
beard (Lev. 19:28)
Do not wear clothing of two kinds of material (Lev. 19:19 and Deut.
Anything a woman touches during menstruation and for seven days
is unclean (Lev. 12:6)
Do not eat fat of ox, sheep or goats (Lev. 7.23)
Do not eat rabbit (Lev. 11:6)
Do not eat blood of fish, fowl or beast (Lev. 7:26)
Do not eat ham, bacon, pork chops or ribs (Lev. 11:7)
Do not eat lobster, crab, scallops or shrimp (Lev. 11:10 and Deut.
Amos 5:21 - God hates his chosen ones
Isiah 45:7 - God is evil
"If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and
lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found, Then the man
that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels
of silver.... (Deuteronomy 22:28,29)
God is inside you. Not within the pages of any particular writings.
There are hypocrites and weirdoe prepared to read and believe what
they want when they want. There are fanatics everywhere and every
religion has some craziness written or done in it's name. (I'll now
be attacked by Christians in my own country; fundamentalist members
of the Church of England will come round to my house and drink all of
- Dear MD,
I notice your quotes are all from the Old Testament. There is one in
the New Testament I find uniquely odious. Sorry, I don't have a
bible handy to look it up, but it is what Jesus says when a disciple
asks why he doesn't preach to the Philistines: "Why should I throw
bread to the dogs when the children are starving."
Each of the monotheistic religions has a book which is supposed to be
inspired by God, one way or another. It seems to me that the problem
is that they were all actually written by people. Even if those
people were in direct contact with God (like Mohammad supposedly
was), or if they were reporting the words and actions of other people
(Abraham, Moses, etc.)similarly inspired, or if they were reporting
on someone actually supposed to be God (Jesus), the writers were
still human beings.
Is it so far-fetched to think that even if the claims of divine
inspiration actually were true, that the humans wielding the writing
implements might have decided to "improve" on God's word, throwing in
just a couple of things on their own personal agenda?
That could go a long way toward explaining how, so often, religions
which have many admirable qualities can, and do, go so terribly
Remember, the gentlefolk of the American South used the Bible to
support claims of white superiority that, in their view, made slavery
perfectly acceptable, even desirable. The same good book has been
used to justify hunting witches in Salem, heretics all over Europe,
and to kill, abuse and enslave Native Americans on two continents.
I don't know why the same documents which have brought comfort and
enlightenment to many can also be used to justify some of the worst
evil deeds people have ever done to each other. Here's a quote that
does make sense to me: "Let he who is without sin cast the first
stone." I think it would be very helpful if we all stopped the finger
pointing and name calling. Lets try to find the things that join us,
not those that separate us.
--- In wtcattack@y..., "MD" <doylomite@y...> wrote:
> The Bible has some interesting quotes too...
> "If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed,
> lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found, Then the man
> that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels
> of silver.... (Deuteronomy 22:28,29)
> God is inside you. Not within the pages of any particular writings.
> There are hypocrites and weirdoe prepared to read and believe what
> they want when they want. There are fanatics everywhere and every
> religion has some craziness written or done in it's name. (I'll now
> be attacked by Christians in my own country; fundamentalist members
> of the Church of England will come round to my house and drink all
> my tea.)