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Re: [FFMA] Re: Interior-West Rare Grid Trip is Fini !!!

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  • Lance Collister, W7GJ
    Hello David, WOW - MNI TNX for an AMAZING operation! I think you need a vacation now! We sure appreciate all the effort and expense you put into activating
    Message 1 of 2 , Jul 10, 2011
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      Hello David,

      WOW - MNI TNX for an AMAZING operation! I think you need a vacation now! We sure
      appreciate all the effort and expense you put into activating all those grids. I
      agree with other comments - I think it is important for you to submit an article for
      publication telling about your experience.

      The whole grid hunting thing, while popular on 6m for many years in EU, is just now
      finally starting to really catch on here in the USA, undoubtedly spurred on by the
      FFMA. I think one of big reasons for this relatively recent growth in interest has
      been the increase in number of people with digital mode capability. It seems like
      more and more stations are being equipped for digital modes on HF, and that
      automatically gives them the capability for ISCAT and FSK441 on 6m.

      Still, many people are not aware of what can be done with these modes when there is
      no Es... and it would be very helpful to spread the word and tell them what is going
      on. Many, I am sure, would be surprised that there is so much activity on 6m using
      digital modes, and that it all centers around using the WSJT modes, and where they
      can find it. I think it is just a matter of time before ISCAT becomes a popular mode
      for working international DX on those long haul multi hop paths, and when that starts
      to happen, we will see another huge increase in the use of digital modes on 6m.

      Once again, many thanks for your extraordinary operation! I look forward to
      receiving the QSL cards from you for dozens of new grids ;-)

      VY 73, Lance

      On 7/10/2011 5:08 AM, niagara66us wrote:
      > A few statistics from the Interior-West Rare-Grid trip:
      >
      > 91 Grids Activated
      > 1,055 QSO's (FSK, ISCAT,& Phone) Most are FSK
      > 2,352 Grids Issued (average 2.3 grids per QSO)
      > 701.4 Gallons of Fuel Burned
      > 10,032 Miles Traveled
      >
      >
      > Statistics for all 6m Rover activity since last April (when I first started):
      >
      > 108 Grids Activated
      > 1,251 QSO's (FSK, ISCAT,& Phone) Most are FSK
      > 2,829 Grids Issued (average 2.3 grids per QSO)
      >
      >
      > Been a heck of a spring& summer. Thanks to all who have followed me through my travels.
      >
      >
      > David
      > NJ0W
      >
      > Grids Activated:
      > CN93
      > CN94
      > DL79
      > DL88
      > DL89
      > DM17
      > DM18
      > DM23
      > DM25
      > DM27
      > DM28
      > DM31
      > DM32
      > DM33
      > DM35
      > DM36
      > DM37
      > DM38
      > DM39
      > DM45
      > DM46
      > DM47
      > DM47
      > DM48
      > DM55
      > DM56
      > DM57
      > DM59
      > DM63
      > DM64
      > DM69
      > DM70
      > DM71
      > DM72
      > DM73
      > DM74
      > DM80
      > DM81
      > DM82
      > DM83
      > DM84
      > DM85
      > DM86
      > DM87
      > DM93
      > DM94
      > DM96
      > DM97
      > DN00
      > DN01
      > DN02
      > DN03
      > DN04
      > DN10
      > DN11
      > DN12
      > DN24
      > DN31
      > DN32
      > DN33
      > DN34
      > DN35
      > DN42
      > DN43
      > DN48
      > DN50
      > DN52
      > DN53
      > DN54
      > DN56
      > DN57
      > DN58
      > DN60
      > DN62
      > DN63
      > DN64
      > DN65
      > DN66
      > DN67
      > DN68
      > DN73
      > DN75
      > DN77
      > DN78
      > DN83
      > DN85
      > DN87
      > DN88
      > DN92
      > DN93
      > DN95
      > DN97
      > DN98
      > EM08
      > EM09
      > EN00
      > EN01
      > EN05
      > EN07
      > EN15
      > EN16
      > EN18
      > EN25
      > EN26
      > EN27
      > EN28
      > EN38
      > EN48
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > ------------------------------------
      >
      > Yahoo! Groups Links
      >
      >
      >
      >


      --
      Lance Collister, W7GJ
      (ex WA3GPL, WA1JXN, WA1JXN/C6A, ZF2OC/ZF8, E51SIX, 3D2LR, 5W0GJ)
      P.O. Box 73
      Frenchtown, MT 59834-0073
      USA
      TEL: (406) 626-5728
      QTH: DN27ub
      URL: http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj
      Windows Messenger: W7GJ@...
      Skype: lanceW7GJ
      2m DXCC #11/6m DXCC #815

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    • Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO
      GM Lance, I agree 110% with everything you say below... Just a couple of hopefully brief comments for the lists in your distribution: (1) While WE are real
      Message 2 of 2 , Jul 11, 2011
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        GM Lance,
         
        I agree 110% with everything you say below... Just a couple of hopefully brief comments for the lists in your distribution:
         
        (1) While WE are real excited about how the WSJT modes can make 6m an exciting place to be when there is no Es propagation (and even when there is, in terms of weak-signal DXing), there are those who take a more curmudgeonly perspective on it, and feel using these modes towards VHF awards (like VUCC, FFMA, WAS, DXCC, etc.) is somehow “cheating” and that a separate set of awards for WSJT only should be created to keep the original awards “pure”. Personally, I think this is rubbish, but the movement is fairly strong. I know you’re familiar with this from the EME community, but it has spread inexorably beyond those folks out into the general VHF world as more people find out what the WSJT modes are capable of in a variety of operating contexts.
         
        (2) While the level of activity on 6m WSJT modes is and has always been a lot of fun and very gratifying, we need MUCH GREATER and more consistent participation, especially meteor-scatter (m/s). WSJT m/s can be done very successfully with a medium-sized station using a traditional horizon-fixed yagi antenna. A top-tier 6m station, such as is necessary to consistently work EME on this band, is not required for m/s – though people trying to do m/s with 50 watts to a low dipole are likely to be disappointed. M/s is not like Es, and 400 watts or so (the TE-Systems 0552G brick is very popular at this power level) to a 5 to 7 element yagi at least 35 feet up should be considered a middle-of-the-road configuration for m/s. This sort of configuration will work very well, especially if one’s local ambient noise level is reasonable in most directions. Such a station will make hundreds of m/s contacts on a “dead” band using WSJT FSK441.
         
        73,
        Bill W5WVO
         
         
        Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 20:09
        Subject: [wsjtgroup] Re: [FFMA] Re: Interior-West Rare Grid Trip is Fini !!!
         
         

        Hello David,

        WOW - MNI TNX for an AMAZING operation! I think you need a vacation now! We sure
        appreciate all the effort and expense you put into activating all those grids. I
        agree with other comments - I think it is important for you to submit an article for
        publication telling about your experience.

        The whole grid hunting thing, while popular on 6m for many years in EU, is just now
        finally starting to really catch on here in the USA, undoubtedly spurred on by the
        FFMA. I think one of big reasons for this relatively recent growth in interest has
        been the increase in number of people with digital mode capability. It seems like
        more and more stations are being equipped for digital modes on HF, and that
        automatically gives them the capability for ISCAT and FSK441 on 6m.

        Still, many people are not aware of what can be done with these modes when there is
        no Es... and it would be very helpful to spread the word and tell them what is going
        on. Many, I am sure, would be surprised that there is so much activity on 6m using
        digital modes, and that it all centers around using the WSJT modes, and where they
        can find it. I think it is just a matter of time before ISCAT becomes a popular mode
        for working international DX on those long haul multi hop paths, and when that starts
        to happen, we will see another huge increase in the use of digital modes on 6m.

        Once again, many thanks for your extraordinary operation! I look forward to
        receiving the QSL cards from you for dozens of new grids ;-)

        VY 73, Lance

        On 7/10/2011 5:08 AM, niagara66us wrote:

        > A few statistics from the Interior-West Rare-Grid
        trip:
        >
        > 91 Grids Activated
        > 1,055 QSO's (FSK, ISCAT,&
        Phone) Most are FSK
        > 2,352 Grids Issued (average 2.3 grids per
        QSO)
        > 701.4 Gallons of Fuel Burned
        > 10,032 Miles
        Traveled
        >
        >
        > Statistics for all 6m Rover activity since last
        April (when I first started):
        >
        > 108 Grids Activated
        > 1,251
        QSO's (FSK, ISCAT,& Phone) Most are FSK
        > 2,829 Grids Issued (average
        2.3 grids per QSO)
        >
        >
        > Been a heck of a spring& summer.
        Thanks to all who have followed me through my travels.
        >
        >
        >
        David
        > NJ0W
        >
        > Grids Activated:
        > CN93
        >
        CN94
        > DL79
        > DL88
        > DL89
        > DM17
        > DM18
        >
        DM23
        > DM25
        > DM27
        > DM28
        > DM31
        > DM32
        >
        DM33
        > DM35
        > DM36
        > DM37
        > DM38
        > DM39
        >
        DM45
        > DM46
        > DM47
        > DM47
        > DM48
        > DM55
        >
        DM56
        > DM57
        > DM59
        > DM63
        > DM64
        > DM69
        >
        DM70
        > DM71
        > DM72
        > DM73
        > DM74
        > DM80
        >
        DM81
        > DM82
        > DM83
        > DM84
        > DM85
        > DM86
        >
        DM87
        > DM93
        > DM94
        > DM96
        > DM97
        > DN00
        >
        DN01
        > DN02
        > DN03
        > DN04
        > DN10
        > DN11
        >
        DN12
        > DN24
        > DN31
        > DN32
        > DN33
        > DN34
        >
        DN35
        > DN42
        > DN43
        > DN48
        > DN50
        > DN52
        >
        DN53
        > DN54
        > DN56
        > DN57
        > DN58
        > DN60
        >
        DN62
        > DN63
        > DN64
        > DN65
        > DN66
        > DN67
        >
        DN68
        > DN73
        > DN75
        > DN77
        > DN78
        > DN83
        >
        DN85
        > DN87
        > DN88
        > DN92
        > DN93
        > DN95
        >
        DN97
        > DN98
        > EM08
        > EM09
        > EN00
        > EN01
        >
        EN05
        > EN07
        > EN15
        > EN16
        > EN18
        > EN25
        >
        EN26
        > EN27
        > EN28
        > EN38
        >
        EN48
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        ------------------------------------
        >
        > Yahoo! Groups
        Links
        >
        >
        >
        >

        --
        Lance Collister, W7GJ
        (ex WA3GPL, WA1JXN, WA1JXN/C6A, ZF2OC/ZF8, E51SIX, 3D2LR, 5W0GJ)
        P.O. Box 73
        Frenchtown, MT 59834-0073
        USA
        TEL: (406) 626-5728
        QTH: DN27ub
        URL: http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj
        Windows Messenger: mailto:W7GJ%40hotmail.com
        Skype: lanceW7GJ
        2m DXCC #11/6m DXCC #815

        Interested in 6m EME? Ask me about subscribing to the Magic Band EME
        email group, or just fill in the request box at the bottom of my web
        page (above)!

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