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  • halpress
    Hi All, I am new to the group and WJST. I would like to try to use the software on 6 mtrs but I only have dipoles for 80, 40, and 17mtrs, a 3element beam up
    Message 1 of 7 , Aug 16, 2004
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      Hi All,

      I am new to the group and WJST. I would like to try to use the
      software on 6 mtrs but I only have dipoles for 80, 40, and 17mtrs, a
      3element beam up 60ft, and a disconne up 30ft. The disconne is the
      only antenna I can tune for 6mtrs with my Icom 756 Pro2. I have the
      software running ok and using the disconne can receive RR, 73s etc
      but no call signs. Am I wasting my time trying to use any of my
      antennas or will I have to get a loop or beam to successfully work
      this mode?

      Thanks,

      Hal
      KD8SY
    • Randy Tipton
      I have worked several stations using dipoles or loops that were HF antennas and we have worked stations on six meters who were using Tri-band Trap Beams. On
      Message 2 of 7 , Aug 16, 2004
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        I have worked several stations using dipoles or loops that were HF antennas and we have worked stations on six meters who were using Tri-band Trap Beams. On six meters this seems to work but…. It is not the best situation. Contacts will take longer and your failure rate will be higher. You will want better.

         

        It sounds like you have the ability to put up a modest beam antenna. For 50 MHz I would recommend five elements. For two meters at least 9 elements, something like the 2M9SSB. These are both small antennas and will outperform any combination of HF antenna’s you mentioned.

         

        If you’re unable to put up a new yagi, I would think the loop or “Stacked Loops” would work well for you. There are several Rover Stations who have had good success with loops at low elevations.

         

        If you seriously want to get into meteor scatter, don’t compromise the antenna. Also make sure you use horizontal polarization.

         

        Hal, good luck with the WSJT journey and let me tell you it is addictive. Whatever antenna you decide on for the initial plunge, it probably won’t be the last. My two cents…

         

        Tip

        WA5UFH

         

        -----Original Message-----
        From: halpress [mailto:halpress@...]
        Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 6:55 AM
        To: wsjtgroup@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [wsjtgroup] antennas for 6 mtr. wsjt

         

        Hi All,

        I am new to the group and WJST. I would like to try to use the
        software on 6 mtrs but I only have dipoles for 80, 40, and 17mtrs, a
        3element beam up 60ft, and a disconne up 30ft. The disconne is the
        only antenna I can tune for 6mtrs with my Icom 756 Pro2. I have the
        software running ok and using the disconne can receive RR, 73s etc
        but no call signs. Am I wasting my time trying to use any of my
        antennas or will I have to get a loop or beam to successfully work
        this mode?

        Thanks,

        Hal
        KD8SY



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      • Hal Pressman
        Hello, everybody, ... I am new to the group and WJST. I would like to try to use the software on 6 mtrs but I only have dipoles for 80, 40, and 17mtrs, a
        Message 3 of 7 , Aug 18, 2004
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          Hello, everybody,
           
          I recently posted the following message:
          ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
          "I am new to the group and WJST. I would like to try to use the
          software on 6 mtrs but I only have dipoles for 80, 40, and 17mtrs, a
          3element beam up 60ft, and a disconne up 30ft. The disconne is the
          only antenna I can tune for 6mtrs with my Icom 756 Pro2. I have the
          software running ok and using the disconne can receive RR, 73s etc
          but no call signs. Am I wasting my time trying to use any of my
          antennas or will I have to get a loop or beam to successfully work
          this mode?"
          --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
          I want to thank Mike, Bruce, John, and Tip for the responses I received directly and through the group. You all convinced me I need to get a proper antenna for six meters and WSJT.
          My next question is what kind? I want to have general 6M capabillity and also be able to work WSJT. I want to start off modestly  and hopefully later become addicted. I've done a little research and am consideraing 2 antennas from Par.  Would appreciate your opinions on the Par OA-50 which is an  omni directional triangle shaped antenna  for 6M or the Par SM-50 which is a stressed moxon 6M directional 2element antenna. They are both about the same price,$80, and both have excellent reviews in E-Ham. I am leaning toward the SM-50 dircetional one as it appears it would be a better choice for general 6M use but how will it and the omnidirectional do for WSJT?  Would appreciate any input you have. I would put either one on my 60 FT.  tower. above my HF 3 element beam.
           
          In the meanwhile till I decide what to get is there anyway I can just receive WSJT transmissions? Just for the heck of it this morning I connected my turnstile weather satellite antenna, 137 MHZ ,  which currenly is atop the tower and was able to tune it for 50.260Mhz with my 756 Pro2. Could this possibly work as an interim antenna, at least for receiving WSJT signals? At least I'm trying to be creative, Hi, Hi.
           
          73s and thanks to all
           
          Hal
          KD8SY
        • Jon W0AMT
          I have a SM-50 that I have used rovering for the vhf contests. It is a good antenna, very small and light. You might want to order one directly from PAR to
          Message 4 of 7 , Aug 18, 2004
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            I have a SM-50 that I have used rovering for the vhf contests.  It is a good antenna, very small and light.  You might want to order one directly from PAR to make sure the mounting bracket is big enough for installing it on a tower mast.  If you have the wind load capacity you should look at a 3 element beam like M Squared 6M3.  The 6M3 is small and light, I have one for portable operations and field day.  I used it for operating the Spring HSMS contest from a park in central Minnesota.  I worked 6 contacts in 5 grids one saturday morning with the antenna at 24 feet.
             
            73, Jon
            W0AMT
             
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            Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:21 AM
            Subject: [wsjtgroup] Re: antennas for 6 mtr. wsjt

            My next question is what kind? I want to have general 6M capabillity and also be able to work WSJT. I want to start off modestly  and hopefully later become addicted. I've done a little research and am consideraing 2 antennas from Par.  Would appreciate your opinions on the Par OA-50 which is an  omni directional triangle shaped antenna  for 6M or the Par SM-50 which is a stressed moxon 6M directional 2element antenna. They are both about the same price,$80, and both have excellent reviews in E-Ham. I am leaning toward the SM-50 dircetional one as it appears it would be a better choice for general 6M use but how will it and the omnidirectional do for WSJT?  Would appreciate any input you have. I would put either one on my 60 FT.  tower. above my HF 3 element beam.
             
            Hal
            KD8SY


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          • Russ Pillsbury
            Hello Hal. I would highly suggest not starting with an omni or a moxon type antenna. You will have a lot better success with a small Yagi. I would suggest 5
            Message 5 of 7 , Aug 18, 2004
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              Hello Hal. I would highly suggest not starting with an omni or a moxon type antenna.  You will have a lot better success with a small Yagi.  I would suggest 5 elements, but even a 3 element six meter Yagi will work well for you.  You can buy such antennas new from companies like CushCraft or M2 Enterprises for prices between $125 and $250.  You may very well be able to find someone selling a used antenna for much less.  Also, a small antenna like this is quite easy to build and there are construction details in various handbooks as well as on the Web.
               
              73, Russ K2TXB
              -----Original Message-----
              From: Hal Pressman [mailto:halpress@...]
              Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 11:21 AM
              To: wsjtgroup@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: [wsjtgroup] Re: antennas for 6 mtr. wsjt

              Hello, everybody,
               
              I recently posted the following message:
              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              "I am new to the group and WJST. I would like to try to use the
              software on 6 mtrs but I only have dipoles for 80, 40, and 17mtrs, a
              3element beam up 60ft, and a disconne up 30ft. The disconne is the
              only antenna I can tune for 6mtrs with my Icom 756 Pro2. I have the
              software running ok and using the disconne can receive RR, 73s etc
              but no call signs. Am I wasting my time trying to use any of my
              antennas or will I have to get a loop or beam to successfully work
              this mode?"
              --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              I want to thank Mike, Bruce, John, and Tip for the responses I received directly and through the group. You all convinced me I need to get a proper antenna for six meters and WSJT.
              My next question is what kind? I want to have general 6M capabillity and also be able to work WSJT. I want to start off modestly  and hopefully later become addicted. I've done a little research and am consideraing 2 antennas from Par.  Would appreciate your opinions on the Par OA-50 which is an  omni directional triangle shaped antenna  for 6M or the Par SM-50 which is a stressed moxon 6M directional 2element antenna. They are both about the same price,$80, and both have excellent reviews in E-Ham. I am leaning toward the SM-50 dircetional one as it appears it would be a better choice for general 6M use but how will it and the omnidirectional do for WSJT?  Would appreciate any input you have. I would put either one on my 60 FT.  tower. above my HF 3 element beam.
               
              In the meanwhile till I decide what to get is there anyway I can just receive WSJT transmissions? Just for the heck of it this morning I connected my turnstile weather satellite antenna, 137 MHZ ,  which currenly is atop the tower and was able to tune it for 50.260Mhz with my 756 Pro2. Could this possibly work as an interim antenna, at least for receiving WSJT signals? At least I'm trying to be creative, Hi, Hi.
               
              73s and thanks to all
               
              Hal
              KD8SY


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            • Bob Davis
              Hi All, I run a Cushcraft 3 el & have great success with Meteors, . I also use it for general 6 meter activity and have been very happy with it. However
              Message 6 of 7 , Aug 18, 2004
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                Hi All,

                I run a Cushcraft 3 el & have great success with Meteors, . I also use it
                for general 6 meter activity and have been very happy with it. However
                everything I have purchased since that antenna has been M2 and I am very
                happy with their stuff.

                73 de AA9MY
                ----- Original Message -----
                From: "halpress" <halpress@...>
                To: <wsjtgroup@yahoogroups.com>
                Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 6:55 AM
                Subject: [wsjtgroup] antennas for 6 mtr. wsjt


                > Hi All,
                >
                > I am new to the group and WJST. I would like to try to use the
                > software on 6 mtrs but I only have dipoles for 80, 40, and 17mtrs, a
                > 3element beam up 60ft, and a disconne up 30ft. The disconne is the
                > only antenna I can tune for 6mtrs with my Icom 756 Pro2. I have the
                > software running ok and using the disconne can receive RR, 73s etc
                > but no call signs. Am I wasting my time trying to use any of my
                > antennas or will I have to get a loop or beam to successfully work
                > this mode?
                >
                > Thanks,
                >
                > Hal
                > KD8SY
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              • kl7r
                Check this out: I built one and has been working. Very quiet. Costs nothing to make. If you dont have Channel 2 in your area, try listening to 55.250 cw. I
                Message 7 of 7 , Aug 27, 2004
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                  Check this out:

                  I built one and has been working.
                  Very quiet. Costs nothing to make.
                  If you dont have Channel 2 in your area,
                  try listening to 55.250 cw. I am hearing 2 pings
                  a minute regularly with the hentenna.


                  http://member.nifty.ne.jp/tasaki/Hentenna.html
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