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8175Re: [wsjtgroup] Where best to monitor ?

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  • Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO
    Mar 1, 2011
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      First, random contacts in EU are much easier to make because the population density in EU is so much greater. This is especially true when you compare EU against the western US, where the nearest active, WSJT-equipped VHF hams can be a thousand or more miles away, at (or beyond, in many cases) the fringes of m/s range. Geography and demographics have more to do with differences in m/s operation between US and EU – or between Eastern US and Western US -- than anything else.
      To be fair, I did point out that there were still some people in the US doing random m/s operation on weekend mornings. But statistics will tell you that the number of hams working m/s randomly is quite small and getting smaller, a fact that I don’t think will provoke too many arguments. And it is certainly a minority of the total number equipped for WSJT m/s operation. Frankly, for me personally, random m/s is more often than not just plain boring. There are maybe a half-dozen stations who are within my m/s range (1,380 miles is my best DX) who regularly make random CQ calls on 50260. (I’m one of them.) And I’ve worked all the rest of them many, many times.
      What we need to be focusing on is getting more new hams interested in WSJT and getting them on the VHF air actively making contacts with a lot of different stations so they get really hooked into this mode. This is most efficiently done using PJ. Arguments touting some intrinsic righteousness of random m/s operation over scheduled operation miss the mark, IMO. While WSJT software (as well as other implementations of JT65) are finding increasing popularity as vehicles for VHF/UHF EME and HF F-2 operation, 6- and 2-meter meteor-scatter is in a state of general decline. This decline needs to be turned around.
      MHOO, YMMV, etc, etc.
      Bill W5WVO
      Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 16:26
      Subject: Re: [wsjtgroup] Where best to monitor ?


      Random contacts using WSJT & MS are not dead in NA, not yet. There used to me more activity during weekday mornings however daily random contacts are still possible. This morning I worked KC0HLN from his CQ on six meters and heard W9FF calling CQ looking for contacts on six meters.
      One thing that takes away from the random contacts in NA are stations calling CQ on frequencies other than the "Set Call Frequency". Try monitoring the call frequency to work them guys, doesn't work.
      As conditions improve, more activity will be found on 50.260MHz and 144.140MHz. Even with poor conditions contacts are almost "automatic" for distances less than 1000 miles between two 100 watt stations with beam antennas provided they run at least 20 minutes or so on six meters.
      As Bill pointed out, most contacts are via schedules on ping jockey but a modest number of stations still monitor and use the call frequency. As conditions improve, I hope the number of stations using the call frequency increases. Using tagged messages in Version 9 is made easier than any prior version thus working contacts on the call frequency with proper messages is made easier.
      just my thoughts... guys that used to be active on the call frequency, come back home...
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      Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 9:41 AM
      Subject: Re: [wsjtgroup] Where best to monitor ?
      Just in case anyone new to WSJT & MS from Europe gets the wrong idea, I'm pleased to say that this side of the pond random contacts are alive and well even though I've never seen a moose in my street :-) Plenty of urban foxes but so far not a single moose.

      I can't speak for 6m because I'm not currently active but from the UK there is some activity on 144.370 the random 2m calling frequency pretty much every day. During showers 144.370 gets so busy we have to listen split for replies to our CQs and QSY. Plenty of folk make QSOs in Europe without skeds.

      73 Paul G4DCV

      On 28/02/2011 23:37, Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO wrote:
      Hi Don,
      WSJT modes on VHF are different than digital modes on HF, and different operating approaches are required.
      “Monitoring” for meteor scatter is like watching for a moose to cross the street in front of your house. You can wait a long time to see what you’re looking for.
      TRUTH: Almost all meteor scatter contacts are made by schedule on frequencies other than 50260 or 144240, the calling frequencies. There is little “random” operation. There is some, especially during the weekend morning activity sessions. You might hear some people calling CQ on this frequency IF they are in meteor scatter range from you (250-1,300 miles, depending on the setup on each end), and IF meteor conditions are favorable, and IF your yagi is pointed at the guys who are transmitting, and IF their yagis are pointed at you.
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