5337Re: [wsjtgroup] Re: CQ U/D method
- Oct 1, 2008Dave I use the CQ 267 LZ1BB method for JT6M mode. I don't really have a
reason, just a habit I guess.
When trying to work weak e's across the pond I think it's best to use the
method Eu is using rather than risk losing a contact. For FSK441 I use the
U/D method on both six and two meters.
The Up/Dn method is explained very well in the SOP. That link is on the PJ
page. There is really no excuse for "not knowing" or am I too hard?
I generally combine the CQXX together without a space then my call. The
shorter the message the better for two meters pings. CQD5_WA5UFH vs.
The other day I was calling CQD6 and a station called me D5. He probably
decoded 5 instead of 6. Not a problem just moved up and worked him after
hearing the off freq. ping.
----- Original Message -----
From: "ab3bk" <dave@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:55 PM
Subject: [wsjtgroup] Re: CQ U/D method
> You speak as though Europe has been doing MS longer than NA? Radios
> were invented "after" the new world was discovered. In fact, well I
> won't get into that :-)
> Politics has nothing to do with it, although you would like to think that.
> You method is very similar, see below
> CQ 267 LZ1BB
> CQ LZ1BB U7
> I like yours better, but we are pretty established already.
> Dave NZ3M
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Harry Popov <lz1bb@...> wrote:
>> On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 15:56 +0000, wb3bel wrote:
>> > 1. A lot of stations don't seem to understand the U/D method.
>> > Calling U/D means that the station calling CQ is listening for
>> > replies up or down from the frequency on which he is calling by some
>> > integer number of kHz. So if you decode a station sending CQU7 or CQ
>> > U7 while you are monitoring 50.260 this means the caller is listening
>> > up 7 KHz and you should call them and listen for them on 50.267.
>> This seems to be very complex for many of us. This was the reason
>> European "Letter" system failed years ago. Now in Europe we do use very
>> simple method:
>> CQ 267 LZ1BB
>> It means LZ1BB is listening for callers on 50.267 (if we operate 50Mhz).
>> Symple and easy. Actually reading this discussion group I really wonder
>> why NA amateurs are ignoring long term established MS practice of
>> Europeans? All such details are very well established already in Europe
>> by MS enthusiasts on 144 Mhz. You could just follow and use without any
>> Ignoring European experience and starting from scratch the MS procedures
>> is mistake. You are just loosing time. It is not necessory to strugle
>> all children deseases we already passed. I will give you an example.
>> According all specialists Bulgarian alphabet is the most perfect
>> alphabet in the world. Why? The answer from specialists is very simple:
>> Because it was the last created alphabet in the world and took all the
>> best features from all already known alphabets. (Many call Bulgarian
>> alphabet Russian alphabet. Even Bill Gates. This is very wrong as
>> Russian alphabet does never exists. The alphabet was created much before
>> Russia was existing on the map as a country.)
>> So looking for different MS procedures then those well established in
>> Europe seems to have political reasons but not practical as EU
>> procedures are very well proved and passed the examen of the time.
>> Another thought. Who has interest from different standards of MS
>> procedures in EU and NA? It will be better to have one standard isn't
>> 73, Harry LZ1BB
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