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How to Add UNIX HD to SheepShaver volume

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  • George B. Richardson
    Hi. I finally got SheepShaver working again. I don t know how to enlarge the SheepShaver volume.dmg that John has packaged with the SS-WP 1.1 distribution
    Message 1 of 10 , May 6, 2008
      Hi. I finally got SheepShaver working again. I don't know how to
      enlarge the "SheepShaver volume.dmg" that John has packaged with the
      SS-WP 1.1 distribution folder, so I reused my former SheepShaver HD.

      Everything seems to be working okay, except that I no longer have
      access to the OS X side through volume that was always called UNIX on
      the SheepShaver desktop. Now, when I want to get anything off of
      SheepShaver, I have to shut everything down and open the disk image.

      I have the SheepShaver GUI, but don't know if that is what I need or,
      if it is, how to use it.

      Question: How can I get UNIX back onto the SheepShaver desktop or,
      alternatively, how do I get the SheepShaver volume.dmg to be larger.
      As noted in an ealier post, I tried using Disk Utility, but that,
      while it made the HD larger, did not increase the size of the
      SheepShaver volume itself. That is, I could make the dmg file 1.5GB,
      but the SheepShaver HD volume stayed at 500MB.

      Any thoughts would be appreciated.

      George Richardson
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    • Thomas Briant
      Hi, I encountered a problem with the UNIX hard disk icon when I originally set up SS. Here s how I solved it. 1. I set up a new empty folder in my
      Message 2 of 10 , May 6, 2008
        Hi, I encountered a problem with the UNIX hard disk icon when I
        originally set up SS. Here's how I solved it.

        1. I set up a new empty folder in my /Users/yourname/Documents folder.
        Call it whatever you want, as long as it's less than 32 characters.
        I'll call it Blank Folder as an example

        2. In Sheepshaver GUI, I set up the path to the UNIX root as "/Users/
        yourname/Documents/Blank Folder" Don't include the quotes!

        3. John R, the instructions in the PDF skimp on setting up the UNIX
        root, as the screenshot shows only a partial path to the nested folder.

        tom briant
        On May 6, 2008, at 3:06 PM, George B. Richardson wrote:

        > Hi. I finally got SheepShaver working again. I don't know how to
        > enlarge the "SheepShaver volume.dmg" that John has packaged with the
        > SS-WP 1.1 distribution folder, so I reused my former SheepShaver HD.
        >
        > Everything seems to be working okay, except that I no longer have
        > access to the OS X side through volume that was always called UNIX on
        > the SheepShaver desktop. Now, when I want to get anything off of
        > SheepShaver, I have to shut everything down and open the disk image.
        >
        > I have the SheepShaver GUI, but don't know if that is what I need or,
        > if it is, how to use it.
        >
        > Question: How can I get UNIX back onto the SheepShaver desktop or,
        > alternatively, how do I get the SheepShaver volume.dmg to be larger.
        > As noted in an ealier post, I tried using Disk Utility, but that,
        > while it made the HD larger, did not increase the size of the
        > SheepShaver volume itself. That is, I could make the dmg file 1.5GB,
        > but the SheepShaver HD volume stayed at 500MB.
        >
        > Any thoughts would be appreciated.
        >
        > George Richardson
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        > :>:<:>:<:>:<:>:<:>:<:>:<:>:<:>:<:>:<:>:<:>:<:>:<:>:<:>:<:>:<:>:<:>:<:>
        > George B. Richardson PC; 650.324.4801
        > Mediation and Collaborative Professional
        > Certified as a Specialist in Family Law by the
        > California State Bar Board of Legal Specialization
        >
        >



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      • William Veder
        Hi, Thanks to Tom Briant s simple solution, toggling between the two OS presents no more problems, at least not on my new MacBook. The work done by Christian
        Message 3 of 10 , May 10, 2008
          Hi,

          Thanks to Tom Briant's simple solution, toggling between the two OS
          presents no more problems, at least not on my new MacBook.
          The work done by Christian Bauer, Gwenolé Beauchesne and John
          Rethorst deserves the heartfelt thanks of the academic community of
          philologists (the dinosaurs that see no point in dissociating
          linguistics from literary studies). In the late 1980's and early
          90's, before academic management all over the world was lured into
          cutting the Mac, much valuable software was developed for Mac OS 7.5
          through 9.1, to name but two examples: Peter Robinson's (Oxford U)
          "Collate" and Evan Antworth's (Summer Institute of Linguistics)
          "Conc". None of that software was updated to OS X, perhaps because
          academic management had found new gratification in cutting the
          philology. Simple means of systematically comparing large numbers of
          manuscripts of the same text and recording their variation (Collate)
          or making concordances and indexes of forms of texts (Conc) in any
          language and any script seemed to be doomed.
          NB. WordPerfect never got a foothold in philology (so maybe I better
          leave this discussion group); NisusWriter was the preferred tool of
          the trade. That, too, works well under SheepShaver, but most of us
          have translated their heritage files into Micros**tWord by now.

          Cheers! William Veder

          William R. Veder
          713 Pintail St.
          Deerfield, IL 60015
          +1 (847) 279-8263
          Please, reply to: william@...



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        • John Rethorst
          ... Bauer s and Beauchesne s work is orders of magnitude beyond anything I ve done, but thank you anyway. ... WordPerfect has a very powerful macro language
          Message 4 of 10 , May 11, 2008
            --- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, William Veder <veder@...> wrote:

            > The work done by Christian Bauer, Gwenolé Beauchesne and John
            > Rethorst deserves the heartfelt thanks of the academic community of
            > philologists

            Bauer's and Beauchesne's work is orders of magnitude beyond
            anything I've done, but thank you anyway.

            > Simple means of systematically comparing large numbers of
            > manuscripts of the same text and recording their variation (Collate)
            > or making concordances and indexes of forms of texts (Conc) in any
            > language and any script

            WordPerfect has a very powerful macro language (900 commands
            and objects) and a full Applescript object model, so add-on programs
            can be written for WP that will do quite a bit. Give me an
            operational description of what you need, and I'll see what I can do.

            John R.
          • William R. Veder
            Dear John, Thanks to you and the others, both Collate and Conc have a new lease on life. No need to worry about programming. Incidentally, Altsys Fontographer
            Message 5 of 10 , May 11, 2008
              Dear John,

              Thanks to you and the others, both Collate and Conc have a new lease
              on life. No need to worry about programming. Incidentally, Altsys
              Fontographer 4.1, which is rather capricious under OS 9.2.2, seems to
              work fine under SS.

              Thanks again: William

              William R. Veder
              713 Pintail St.
              Deerfield, IL 60015
              +1 (847) 279-8263
              Please, reply to: william@...



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            • Patricia S. Rudden
              I haven t tried running either of these, but this discussion has piqued my interest. How does one get another program to run in SS? Can Nisus Compact run in
              Message 6 of 10 , May 11, 2008
                I haven't tried running either of these, but this discussion has
                piqued my interest. How does one get another program to run in SS?
                Can Nisus Compact run in SS, and if so, how does one make that happen
                on an Intel machine?

                BTW, WP in SS is wonderful.
                Pat Rudden
                New York City
                >
              • John Rethorst
                ... Isn t it? It s just as good as in Classic, and is better in Classic than on earlier Macs. SS is actually _better_ than Classic in some ways. Macro freak
                Message 7 of 10 , May 11, 2008
                  --- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, "Patricia S. Rudden" <huntergirl@...> wrote:

                  > BTW, WP in SS is wonderful.

                  Isn't it? It's just as good as in Classic, and is better in Classic than
                  on earlier Macs.

                  SS is actually _better_ than Classic in some ways. Macro freak that I
                  am, I had about 100 Quickeys shortcuts, none of which would run
                  in Classic but all of which run in SS.

                  SS also conforms to the Spaces feature in Leopard, and the predecessor
                  Escapade in Panther and Tiger. SS is a first-class OSX application, as
                  it were, while Classic is not.

                  There's also speed. WP is faster than it's ever been before.

                  John R.
                • drderbes
                  ... This is the second post I ve seen asking about Nisus. The only Nisus programs I know about are all Mac OS X based, now, so SheepShaver should not come into
                  Message 8 of 10 , May 11, 2008
                    --- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, "Patricia S. Rudden"
                    <huntergirl@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > I haven't tried running either of these, but this discussion has
                    > piqued my interest. How does one get another program to run in SS?
                    > Can Nisus Compact run in SS, and if so, how does one make that
                    > happen on an Intel machine?
                    >
                    > BTW, WP in SS is wonderful.
                    > Pat Rudden
                    > New York City
                    > >
                    >

                    This is the second post I've seen asking about Nisus.

                    The only Nisus programs I know about are all Mac OS X based, now, so
                    SheepShaver should not come into it. These are the word processors
                    Nisus Writer Express and Nisus Writer Pro; see the site
                    http://www.nisus.com/.

                    There were old Nisus word processor programs for OS 9, but why not
                    just go with the very nice OS X versions available today?

                    David Derbes
                    U of Chicago Laboratory Schools
                  • Patricia S. Rudden
                    Short answer: I already have Nisus Compact (which is a free download), and the OSX versions involve money. Another reason: I m curious about how many OS 9
                    Message 9 of 10 , May 11, 2008
                      Short answer: I already have Nisus Compact (which is a free
                      download), and the OSX versions involve money. Another reason: I'm
                      curious about how many OS 9 programs can happen in SS and how to get
                      them to start.

                      PR

                      On May 11, 2008, at 10:52 PM, drderbes wrote:

                      > --- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, "Patricia S. Rudden"
                      > <huntergirl@...> wrote:
                      >>
                      >> I haven't tried running either of these, but this discussion has
                      >> piqued my interest. How does one get another program to run in SS?
                      >> Can Nisus Compact run in SS, and if so, how does one make that
                      >> happen on an Intel machine?
                      >>
                      >> BTW, WP in SS is wonderful.
                      >> Pat Rudden
                      >> New York City
                      >>>
                      >>
                      >
                      > This is the second post I've seen asking about Nisus.
                      >
                      > The only Nisus programs I know about are all Mac OS X based, now, so
                      > SheepShaver should not come into it. These are the word processors
                      > Nisus Writer Express and Nisus Writer Pro; see the site
                      > http://www.nisus.com/.
                      >
                      > There were old Nisus word processor programs for OS 9, but why not
                      > just go with the very nice OS X versions available today?
                      >
                      > David Derbes
                      > U of Chicago Laboratory Schools
                      >
                      >
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                      >
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                      >
                      >
                      >
                    • ted_m_p_lee
                      ... I imagine someone has compiled a list of classic programs that do or do not work under Sheepshaver, but the few I ve tried (under the version of the OS
                      Message 10 of 10 , May 12, 2008
                        --- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, "Patricia S. Rudden"
                        <huntergirl@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > Short answer: I already have Nisus Compact (which is a free
                        > download), and the OSX versions involve money. Another reason: I'm
                        > curious about how many OS 9 programs can happen in SS and how to get
                        > them to start.
                        >
                        > PR
                        >

                        I imagine someone has compiled a list of classic programs that do or do
                        not work under Sheepshaver, but the few I've tried (under the version
                        of the OS that comes with John's install -- I still to have unearth my
                        install disks for anything more recent) work just fine. Just mount the
                        sheepshaver disk image in OS X, drag the requisite file(s) and folder
                        (s) to where you want them, and unmount it before launching SS. I've
                        even been able to run them with the classic app living in the Unix
                        disk/folder, but desktop associations (file type to app) don't work
                        well in that situation.

                        Ted Lee
                        Minnetonka, MN
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