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Re: SheepShaver freezes on start up! Help!!

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  • Dirk Goedseels
    George, looks to me as if you have a problem with your Mac OS, rather than with SS. I would suggest running the Disk Utility (preferably from the Mac OS
    Message 1 of 7 , May 1, 2008
      George,

      looks to me as if you have a problem with your Mac OS, rather than
      with SS. I would suggest running the Disk Utility (preferably from the
      Mac OS installer CD) or any other disk curing tool, and see if this
      gives any difference.

      hope this helps,
      Dirk
    • David Barnett
      I wonder if the RAM size of the Sheepshaver virtual Mac has become too small? David Barnett, Ph.D On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 7:19 PM, George B. Richardson
      Message 2 of 7 , May 2, 2008
        I wonder if the RAM size of the Sheepshaver virtual Mac has become too
        small?
        David Barnett, Ph.D

        On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 7:19 PM, George B. Richardson <gbr@...>
        wrote:

        > MBP, OS 10.5.2, 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB SDRAM. I desperately
        > need to do my billing, which only runs on SheepShaver.
        >
        > SheepShaver has been installed and has been working fine for over 6
        > months. Yesterday, went to open it and it hangs at the point where
        > the SheepShaver icon and the word "Window" are in the Apple Menubar.
        >
        > Tried restoring back-ups from days before any problems had shown up
        > from TimeMachine . Restarted SheepShaver with same result.
        >
        > Physically disconnected every external drive [each of which has
        > backups of SheepShaver], and restarted. Removed from my HD everything
        > about which I know that involves SheepShaver [SheepShaver HD,
        > SheepShaver application, SheepShaver preferences, Basiliskll
        > keycodes, Mac OS ROM, Print&PDF Folder Items.scpt,
        > WordPerfect.mdimporter, and any alias].
        >
        > Emptied trash and restarted. Downloaded SS-WP 1.1 distribution folder
        > [beautiful job - Thank you John!!] Printed out the Install ReadMe.
        > Religiously followed every step.
        >
        > After the restart, tried to open SheepShaver application. Got the
        > expanding icon and then the exact same hard freeze at the point when
        > the Apple Menubar has the SheepShaver icon and the word "Window" [I
        > know I'm being redundant - I figure too much information can be
        > edited out].
        >
        > Anyway, I'm at a total loss. Please help as soon as possible!
        >
        > Thank you, everyone!!
        >
        > George Richardson
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        > George B. Richardson PC; 650.324.4801
        > Mediation and Collaborative Professional
        > Certified as a Specialist in Family Law by the
        > California State Bar Board of Legal Specialization
        >
        >


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      • George B. Richardson
        Thanks, Dirk. By this point, I ve tried pretty much everything I can think of: In addition to simply reparing Permissions, I ran, in the following order: Onyx
        Message 3 of 7 , May 2, 2008
          Thanks, Dirk. By this point, I've tried pretty much everything I can think of:
          In addition to simply reparing Permissions, I ran, in the following order:
          Onyx
          Disk Utilities
          Disk Warrior
          TechTool Pro

          Finally, I reinstalled the system, using Archive and Install. That
          didn't work either. I'm thinking that this weekend I'll have to do a
          clean install and reload the computer.

          Any other thoughts would be most welcome!

          George Richardson



          At 4:44 AM +0000 5/2/08, Dirk Goedseels wrote:
          >George,
          >
          >looks to me as if you have a problem with your Mac OS, rather than
          >with SS. I would suggest running the Disk Utility (preferably from
          >the Mac OS installer CD) or any other disk curing tool, and see if
          >this gives any difference.
          >
          >hope this helps,
          >Dirk

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          George B. Richardson PC; 650.324.4801
          Mediation and Collaborative Professional
          Certified as a Specialist in Family Law by the
          California State Bar Board of Legal Specialization

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        • George B. Richardson
          Thanks for the response. I have RAM set at 512 MB. That s twice the recommendation in the installation PDF. I increased it to 1024, with the same result.
          Message 4 of 7 , May 2, 2008
            Thanks for the response.

            I have RAM set at 512 MB. That's twice the recommendation in the
            installation PDF. I increased it to 1024, with the same result.

            George Richardson



            At 2:36 PM +0100 5/2/08, David Barnett wrote:
            >I wonder if the RAM size of the Sheepshaver virtual Mac has become too small?
            >David Barnett, Ph.D
            >
            >
            >
            >On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 7:19 PM, George B. Richardson
            ><<mailto:gbr%40gbr-law.com>gbr@...> wrote:
            >
            >>MBP, OS 10.5.2, 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB SDRAM. I desperately
            >>need to do my billing, which only runs on SheepShaver.
            >>
            >>SheepShaver has been installed and has been working fine for over 6
            >>months. Yesterday, went to open it and it hangs at the point where
            >>the SheepShaver icon and the word "Window" are in the Apple Menubar.
            >>
            >>Tried restoring back-ups from days before any problems had shown up
            >>from TimeMachine . Restarted SheepShaver with same result.
            >>
            >>Physically disconnected every external drive [each of which has
            >>backups of SheepShaver], and restarted. Removed from my HD
            >>everything about which I know that involves SheepShaver
            >>[SheepShaver HD, SheepShaver application, SheepShaver preferences,
            >>Basiliskll keycodes, Mac OS ROM, Print&PDF Folder Items.scpt,
            >>WordPerfect.mdimporter, and any alias].
            >>
            >>Emptied trash and restarted. Downloaded SS-WP 1.1 distribution
            >>folder [beautiful job - Thank you John!!] Printed out the Install
            >>ReadMe. Religiously followed every step.
            >>
            >>After the restart, tried to open SheepShaver application. Got the
            >>expanding icon and then the exact same hard freeze at the point
            >>when the Apple Menubar has the SheepShaver icon and the word
            >>"Window" [I know I'm being redundant - I figure too much
            >>information can be edited out].
            >>
            >>Anyway, I'm at a total loss. Please help as soon as possible!
            >>
            >>Thank you, everyone!!
            >>
            >>George Richardson

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            George B. Richardson PC; 650.324.4801
            Mediation and Collaborative Professional
            Certified as a Specialist in Family Law by the
            California State Bar Board of Legal Specialization

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          • thomasbriant
            George: I would suggest setting up a new user account, installing SS-WP, and seeing if that fixes your problems. (1) Go to Accounts in System Preferences and
            Message 5 of 7 , May 2, 2008
              George:

              I would suggest setting up a new user account, installing SS-WP, and
              seeing if that fixes your problems.

              (1) Go to Accounts in System Preferences and set up the new user,
              say, "Perry Mason." His computer never went down.

              (2) Before switching to Perry Mason, copy SS-WPx.zip and your user
              files (billing and such) to a folder outside of your regular user
              account. OS X will prevent you from accessing your old account while
              you use another account!

              (3) Log out of your old identity now and log in as "Perry Mason".
              UnZIP and install SS-WP. See if it works. Do your billing.

              (4) Please tell me if this worked. It worked for me when Apple Mail
              went down for me and wouldn't send mail. I used my other identity
              and went back to work e-mailing people.

              (5) The other advice to repair your permissions is also excellent
              advice.

              Tom Briant
              Editor, MacValley Voice

              --- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, "George B. Richardson"
              <gbr@...> wrote:
              >
              > MBP, OS 10.5.2, 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB SDRAM. I
              desperately
              > need to do my billing, which only runs on SheepShaver.
              >
              > SheepShaver has been installed and has been working fine for over
              6
              > months. Yesterday, went to open it and it hangs at the point where
              > the SheepShaver icon and the word "Window" are in the Apple
              Menubar.
              >
              > Tried restoring back-ups from days before any problems had shown
              up
              > from TimeMachine . Restarted SheepShaver with same result.
              >
              > Physically disconnected every external drive [each of which has
              > backups of SheepShaver], and restarted. Removed from my HD
              everything
              > about which I know that involves SheepShaver [SheepShaver HD,
              > SheepShaver application, SheepShaver preferences, Basiliskll
              > keycodes, Mac OS ROM, Print&PDF Folder Items.scpt,
              > WordPerfect.mdimporter, and any alias].
              >
              > Emptied trash and restarted. Downloaded SS-WP 1.1 distribution
              folder
              > [beautiful job - Thank you John!!] Printed out the Install ReadMe.
              > Religiously followed every step.
              >
              > After the restart, tried to open SheepShaver application. Got the
              > expanding icon and then the exact same hard freeze at the point
              when
              > the Apple Menubar has the SheepShaver icon and the word "Window"
              [I
              > know I'm being redundant - I figure too much information can be
              > edited out].
              >
              > Anyway, I'm at a total loss. Please help as soon as possible!
              >
              > Thank you, everyone!!
              >
              > George Richardson
              > --
              >
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              :>
              > George B. Richardson PC; 650.324.4801
              > Mediation and Collaborative Professional
              > Certified as a Specialist in Family Law by the
              > California State Bar Board of Legal Specialization
              >
            • George B. Richardson
              Thanks extra much! That work around worked! ;-) I m a happy camper. Sorry for this long post, but there s still a problem, and I wanted to get as much
              Message 6 of 7 , May 2, 2008
                Thanks extra much! That work around worked! ;-) I'm a happy camper.

                Sorry for this long post, but there's still a problem, and I wanted
                to get as much information down as possible. Problem: the 500 MB dmg
                that is included in the WP download is too small. I need to have
                about 1.5 GB [the size of the dmg that I have been using]. I was able
                to take the 500 MB dmg and, with Disk Utility, expand the image.
                However, when I opened the dmg file, the SheepShaver file that
                mounted was still only 500MB.

                Said another way: when I got Info on the closed dmg that I had
                expanded, it showed that it was 1.5GB. When I double-clicked on that
                dmg file, it opened and mounted "SheepShaver". However, when I got
                Info on the mounted "SheepShave" file, it was still only 500MB. When
                I opened "SheepShaver", it would not take accept stuff that I wanted
                to move in because there was not enough room.

                When I opened Disk Utility with "SheepShaver" mounted, it would not
                allow me to expand the 500 MB "SheepShaver" image.

                I created a larger dmg, but when I copied over the contents of the
                500 MB to the dmg that I created, SheepShaver couldn't find a System
                Folder. I force quit SheepShaver and inserted my OS 8.5 Install Disk.
                Upon restart with the larger dmg, it started up with the 8.5 Install
                Disk just fine, but the installation of OS 8.5 failed. It said it
                failed because it couldn't update and then closed down.

                Further thoughts from anyone?

                George Richardson


                At 5:19 PM +0000 5/2/08, thomasbriant wrote:
                >George:
                >
                >I would suggest setting up a new user account, installing SS-WP, and
                >seeing if that fixes your problems.
                >
                >[...snip...]
                >
                >(4) Please tell me if this worked. It worked for me when Apple Mail
                >went down for me and wouldn't send mail. I used my other identity
                >and went back to work e-mailing people.
                >
                >[...snip...]
                >
                >Tom Briant
                >
                >
                >
                >--- In
                ><mailto:wordperfectmac%40yahoogroups.com>wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com,
                >"George B. Richardson" <gbr@...> wrote:
                >> MBP, OS 10.5.2, 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB SDRAM. I
                >>desperately need to do my billing, which only runs on SheepShaver.
                >>
                >>SheepShaver has been installed and has been working fine for over 6
                >>months. Yesterday, went to open it and it hangs at the point where
                >>the SheepShaver icon and the word "Window" are in the Apple Menubar.
                >>
                >>Tried restoring back-ups from days before any problems had shown up
                >>from TimeMachine . Restarted SheepShaver with same result.
                >>
                >>Physically disconnected every external drive [each of which has
                >>backups of SheepShaver], and restarted. Removed from my HD
                >>everything about which I know that involves SheepShaver
                >>[SheepShaver HD, SheepShaver application, SheepShaver preferences,
                >>Basiliskll keycodes, Mac OS ROM, Print&PDF Folder Items.scpt,
                >>WordPerfect.mdimporter, and any alias].
                >>
                >>Emptied trash and restarted. Downloaded SS-WP 1.1 distribution
                >>folder [beautiful job - Thank you John!!] Printed out the Install
                >>ReadMe. Religiously followed every step.
                >>
                >>After the restart, tried to open SheepShaver application. Got the
                >>expanding icon and then the exact same hard freeze at the point
                >>when the Apple Menubar has the SheepShaver icon and the word
                >>"Window" [I know I'm being redundant - I figure too much
                >>information can be edited out].
                >>
                >>Anyway, I'm at a total loss. Please help as soon as possible!
                >>
                >>Thank you, everyone!!
                >>
                >>George Richardson

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                George B. Richardson PC; 650.324.4801
                Mediation and Collaborative Professional
                Certified as a Specialist in Family Law by the
                California State Bar Board of Legal Specialization

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