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Re: [wpmac] Re: Thinking of getting a Mac...double entendre

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  • hnd/general
    True... And the machine code monitor for the original Apple II was partly written by A. Baum (Apfelbaum?), and the first floating-point BASIC for it was
    Message 1 of 61 , Dec 5, 2007
      And the machine code monitor for the original Apple II was partly written by
      A. Baum (Apfelbaum?), and the first floating-point BASIC for it was
      Applesoft (Apfelsaft?)...
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Face Uranus" <uranas402@...>
      To: <wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 4:14 PM
      Subject: Re: [wpmac] Re: Thinking of getting a Mac...double entendre

      > Just don't forget that you're using an operating
      > system named after an apple!
      > --- Rick Mansfield <rmansfield@...> wrote:
      >> Well, I'll probably offend folks even more. Even
      >> knowing the origin of the name, I've
      >> always thought it was a ridiculous name that I'm
      >> always embarrassed to recommend in
      >> professional settings.
      >> "You want me to install -what-?" is usually the
      >> reaction I get.
      >> I always felt the same way about the old Windows-Mac
      >> networking utility Dave. I still
      >> remember the odd look I got from the IT guy when I
      >> said that I need to put "Dave" on my
      >> Mac.
      >> Really, I wish that software developers would get
      >> beyond what they think are clever names
      >> (which usually aren't) and use something a bit more
      >> professional.
      >> --- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, "hnd101"
      >> <newtownw@...> wrote:
      >> > At the risk of alienating numerous readers,
      >> "SheepShaver" is itself a
      >> > double entendre having nothing to do with electric
      >> razors but being
      >> > instead a bowdlerised version of a play on
      >> "ShapeShifter" (a
      >> > Mac-on-Amiga emulator ... see
      >> shapeshifter.cebix.net). Work it out for
      >> > yourself, then (preferably) forget it. Computer
      >> people are addicted to
      >> > (often horrible) puns.
      >> > Bye
      >> > Hugh Dobbs
      >> >
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    • Randy B. Singer
      ... True. But since there is no spyware or adware for the Macintosh that is disseminated via Web sites or via e-mail, it is kind of moot at the moment. ...
      Message 61 of 61 , Dec 31, 2007
        On Dec 27, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Face Uranus wrote:

        > Viruses for profit, I'm not so sure, but spyware and
        > adware is most definitely created with a profit in
        > mind.

        True. But since there is no spyware or adware for the Macintosh that
        is disseminated via Web sites or via e-mail, it is kind of moot at
        the moment.

        > . You
        > can't say that since Mac has 5% market share it should
        > have 5% of the viruses. It just doesn't work that way.
        > The mac is a little more difficult to crack than a pc
        > but there's no incentive to even take a shot when the
        > target is so small and pcs are everywhere.

        I'm afraid that you have swallowed the propaganda of anti-Macintosh
        bigots. This propaganda doesn't stand up to even the smallest amount
        of logical scrutiny.

        Apple estimates that there is an installed base of close to 30
        million Macs. That is not an insignificant market (for malware
        writers or legitimate software developers.)

        To say that there aren't enough Macs out there for malware writers to
        find the Mac to be a significant target, you would have to extend
        that to say that there aren't enough Macs for anyone, even legitimate
        software developers, to find the Mac market to be profitable. But we
        know that that is far from the case. There are tens of thousands of
        software applications that developers have written for the Macintosh:

        I highly recommend that you have a look at the articles that I have
        previously cited:

        Apple Changes Its Tune on Viruses by David Pogue

        Mac Viruses By The Numbers

        Broken Windows
        So Witty (followup to Broken Windows)

        Is Windows inherently more vulnerable to malware attacks than OS X?

        > One thing that worries me is the fact that so many
        > macs are sitting around without any protection under
        > the assumption that they are safe simply because they
        > are macs.

        What, *exactly*, is there that can attack a Macintosh that has you
        so worried? (I'm not saying that there is no malware for the
        Macintosh...there is. But most of it is extremely rare, or it can be
        easily avoided.)

        > When that first virus does hit it will hit
        > all of us hard.

        How do you know this? There have already been attempts at Mac
        viruses. Not only have they not hit "all of us hard", they didn't work.

        And what, specifically, do you propose that Mac users do to prepare
        for an unknown virus?

        > And are you absolutely certain that
        > your mac doesn't already have malware installed?
        > Really certain?

        Yes, I'm really, really certain. For two reasons. First, there is
        very little malware for the Macintosh, and what there is is known,
        and exceedingly rare.

        Second, I've been using Virus Barrier since around the time OS X was
        released...about six years ago. Other than Windows virus attachments
        to e-mail, and the odd Word macro virus, it has never detected any
        malware on my Mac. Macworld tested all of the anti-virus programs
        for the Mac, and Virus Barrier was rated highest:

        There probably will be a significant virus for the Macintosh at some
        point. But people have been predicting this for six years now, and
        it still isn't here. The next virus for OS X, will be *the first*.
        The next one for Windows will be somewhere in the 180,000 range:

        Paranoia about malware is a Windows thing. My guess is that you are
        a recent switcher. This is why you switched, so that you don't have
        to be paranoid about malware anymore. I know its hard to give up old
        habits, but for now you can reserve your energy for getting your work
        done, instead of using it to protect your computer from malware.

        Randy B. Singer
        Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

        Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
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