Re: [woodandbrass] Re: Ensign "Empress"
- Thanks Cyril, between you and Rob, that is what will eventually appear in the description of the camera on my web site:May take a little while though.Regards,Eric.----- Original Message -----From: CYRIL GREATOREXSent: Monday, October 08, 2012 4:47 PMSubject: Re: [woodandbrass] Re: Ensign "Empress"Just to confirm, the "N" was used from 1904 until 1911.BarrieFrom: ericevans2000 <ericevans2@...>
Sent: Monday, 8 October 2012, 11:16
Subject: [woodandbrass] Re: Ensign "Empress"Rob, thanks for that it's helpful as always.
--- In mailto:woodandbrass%40yahoogroups.com, "rob_tooley" <robert_tooley@...> wrote:
> I think the the N in a shield dates to 1911 and before, later they used a flag (an Ensign) as the logo.
> --- In mailto:woodandbrass%40yahoogroups.com, "ericevans2000" <ericevans2@> wrote:
> > Please refer to Eric Evans' Album. I believe this fairly basic "Empress" camera was made by Houghtons, both before and after they adopted the "Ensign" badge shown here. I am not helped by the fact that they used at least two different badges after Ensign's establishment. Is any member able to do better than me in getting their head round when this particular badge came into use, so that I can have a go at dating it? I have seen dates as diverse as 1904 and 1930. If it's 1904 it fits my collection, if it's 1930, it's theoretically too late, since my cut-off date is 1914, though I shall continue to give it a good home. The history of the Houghton /Butcher / Ensign empire is far too complicated for me, and I'm afraid I have given up struggling with it, using the material I have available.
> > Eric.