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QueryData and WordNet 2.1

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  • Ted Pedersen
    Greetings QueryData folk, Is WordNet-QueryData ready for use with WordNet 2.1? For some reason I think it is not, although I don t recall why I think that. :)
    Message 1 of 10 , Sep 13, 2005
      Greetings QueryData folk,

      Is WordNet-QueryData ready for use with WordNet 2.1? For some
      reason I think it is not, although I don't recall why I think
      that. :) Has someone tried to use WordNet-QueryData with this
      version of WordNet (2.1) as yet? If not, I will do so in the
      near future (on Solaris or Linux).

      Cordially,
      Ted
    • Wanxiang Che
      Yeah! I need. It s really a good news if you could do this work. ... -- Carl (Wanxiang Che)
      Message 2 of 10 , Sep 13, 2005
        Yeah! I need. It's really a good news if you could do this work.

        On 9/13/05, Ted Pedersen <tpederse@... > wrote:

        Greetings QueryData folk,

        Is WordNet-QueryData ready for use with WordNet 2.1? For some
        reason I think it is not, although I don't recall why I think
        that. :) Has someone tried to use WordNet-QueryData with this
        version of WordNet (2.1) as yet? If not, I will do so in the
        near future (on Solaris or Linux).

        Cordially,
        Ted





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      • Jason Rennie
        QueryData does not work with WordNet 2.1. I haven t had time to figure out what was wrong & make the necessary changes. If anyone can summarize the changes
        Message 3 of 10 , Sep 13, 2005
          QueryData does not work with WordNet 2.1.  I haven't had time to figure out what was wrong & make the necessary changes.  If anyone can summarize the changes made to the database format, that might help.

          Jason

        • Ben Haskell
          AFAIK, the only change we made was the addition of instances . Instances are specialized hyponyms. e.g. Ronald Reagan is no longer a hyponym, but an
          Message 4 of 10 , Sep 13, 2005
            AFAIK, the only change we made was the addition of 'instances'.

            Instances are specialized hyponyms. e.g. "Ronald Reagan" is no longer a
            hyponym, but an instance, of U.S. President.

            Pointer symbols added are: '@i' and '~i'.

            In my own WN Perl lib, I've added these as 'inst' and 'hasi' (for
            "instance" and "has instance", respectively). I also added 'hypes' (combo
            of '@' and '@i') and 'hypos' (combo of '~' and '~i'), because it's still
            useful to include instances in the hyp(?:o|er)nym hierarchies.

            Untested patch against WN::QD 1.38 at:
            http://wordnet.princeton.edu/~ben/wnqd.1.38.patch

            -- Ben Haskell
            -- WordNet Technical Support Specialist

            On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Jason Rennie wrote:

            > QueryData does not work with WordNet 2.1. I haven't had time to figure out
            > what was wrong & make the necessary changes. If anyone can summarize the
            > changes made to the database format, that might help.
            >
            > Jason
            >
          • Ben Haskell
            Almost forgot: Full changes @ http://wordnet.princeton.edu/2.1/CHANGES Only other one that looks pertinent to the db structure is that we now use the same
            Message 5 of 10 , Sep 13, 2005
              Almost forgot:
              Full changes @ http://wordnet.princeton.edu/2.1/CHANGES

              Only other one that looks pertinent to the db structure is that we now use
              the same filenames on both Win + Unix.

              -- Ben

              On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Jason Rennie wrote:

              > QueryData does not work with WordNet 2.1. I haven't had time to figure out
              > what was wrong & make the necessary changes. If anyone can summarize the
              > changes made to the database format, that might help.
              >
              > Jason
              >
            • Jason Rennie
              Many thanks for the info & patch Ben! That should make my job *much* easier ... Jason
              Message 6 of 10 , Sep 13, 2005
                Many thanks for the info & patch Ben!  That should make my job *much* easier :)

                Jason

              • Jason Rennie
                Many thanks for the patch. But, still some loose-ends I need to tie up before releasing a new version: - What happened to the lexnames file? Is it no longer
                Message 7 of 10 , Sep 14, 2005
                  Many thanks for the patch.  But, still some loose-ends I need to tie up before releasing a new version:

                  - What happened to the lexnames file?  Is it no longer part of WordNet?  Is there a replacement of some sort?
                  - Are the new relations, inst & hasi, `sense' relations or `word' relations?

                  Thanks,

                  Jason

                • Jason Rennie
                  Btw, Ben, is your WN perl lib freely available? Jason
                  Message 8 of 10 , Sep 14, 2005
                    Btw, Ben, is your WN perl lib freely available?

                    Jason

                  • Ben Haskell
                    Hi Jason -- - lexnames: unintentional omission. But, the WordNet C library (and thus, also, the browser) hasn t used the file for several versions. The
                    Message 9 of 10 , Sep 15, 2005
                      Hi Jason --

                      - lexnames: unintentional omission. But, the WordNet C library (and thus,
                      also, the browser) hasn't used the file for several versions. The
                      equivalent data is compiled in. It hasn't changed since version 1.6, IIRC,
                      which makes it pretty static.
                      Randee just posted it to our FTP server, since another user asked for it.
                      Available at:
                      ftp://ftp.cogsci.princeton.edu/wordnet/2.1/lexnames
                      or
                      http://wordnet.princeton.edu/2.1/lexnames

                      - The new relations are `sense' relations.

                      - My WN Perl lib is currently just internal to the lab. Half because it
                      doesn't do much error checking. Half because it's not well documented.

                      -- Ben Haskell
                      -- WordNet Technical Support Specialist

                      On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Jason Rennie wrote:

                      > Many thanks for the patch. But, still some loose-ends I need to tie up
                      > before releasing a new version:
                      >
                      > - What happened to the lexnames file? Is it no longer part of WordNet? Is
                      > there a replacement of some sort?
                      > - Are the new relations, inst & hasi, `sense' relations or `word' relations?
                      >
                      > Thanks,
                      >
                      > Jason
                      >
                    • Jason Rennie
                      ... Okay, I bit the bullet and hand-coded this into QueryData. :) Thanks for the URL. A few of the tests don t work; hopefully those will be easy to fix.
                      Message 10 of 10 , Sep 15, 2005
                        On 9/15/05, Ben Haskell <ben@...> wrote:
                        - lexnames: unintentional omission. But, the WordNet C library (and thus,
                        also, the browser) hasn't used the file for several versions. The
                        equivalent data is compiled in. It hasn't changed since version 1.6, IIRC,
                        which makes it pretty static.
                        Randee just posted it to our FTP server, since another user asked for it.
                        Available at:
                        ftp://ftp.cogsci.princeton.edu/wordnet/2.1/lexnames
                        or
                        http://wordnet.princeton.edu/2.1/lexnames

                        Okay, I bit the bullet and hand-coded this into QueryData. :)  Thanks for the URL.

                        A few of the tests don't work; hopefully those will be easy to fix.  Shouldn't be too long 'till QD works with WN 2.1...

                        Jason


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