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  • Sven_gotfriedson@comcast.net
    Replied off list Sven ... From: Susan Burch-Williamson To my Constables; Achmed was my co CIC for October Crown last Year by rights he
    Message 1 of 12 , Mar 27, 2006
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      From: Susan Burch-Williamson <lady_bethia@...>
      To my Constables;
      Achmed was my co CIC for October Crown last Year by rights he is a senior constable. His friend made him a new baldric to signal this status and he showed it to me Saturday. We were going to wait until Beltane to make his position public for his comfort level since the responsibility of a senior constable is larger. He is an excellent constable and takes his responsibilities seriously. He volunteers for CiC at small events and helps out greatly at larger events he has my heart felt thanks and respect.

      If you have any problems about any of my constables come to me first before you insult and force people into feeling that they must resign.

      In Service
      Bethia de la Birche Kingdom Constable


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    • Dan Wagner
      Yep. The big thing is- once you re a Senior (well, really, once the Populace knows you re a Senior) you re never really off duty. Even when you re on break
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        Yep. The big thing is- once you're a Senior (well, really, once the Populace
        knows you're a Senior) you're never really off duty. Even when you're "on
        break" or whatever. (Ask "Uncle Wulfy" to tell you the Rattesnake Story
        sometime....).This means keeping an eye on your behavior (lapses occur but
        they take a while to be forgiven, however they are forgiven, as witness the
        fact that *I* am a Pelican <g>), and that means your alcohol intake. Also,
        unless it's super-official Constable business, be sure not to sign normal
        everyday posts to SCA-West with your new "rank"- this also applies to Group
        & even higher Constables. Note that while for a while I was one of the big
        "midden-stirrers" on SCA-West, I made sure to sign *those* posts "Wulfy" not
        "Wulfstan Darroldson Chief (or High) Constable". <G> ;-)

        And, that also means that in theory, the CinC can ask some rather large
        favours of you, and you really should only say "no" when it's very dire
        indeed. In other words, don't be surprised to arrive early and if you are
        the 1st Senior on site (other than the CinC) for the CinC to tell you he's
        has to leave site or even not work as there was a medical emergency, and
        thus "it's all yours, baby!"... until you can get someone more Senior to you
        to show up. So, always have some equiptment in your car. Not much- a few
        mastercopies of the blank waivers, (and maybe even a few from some old
        events)- a clipboard, a couple of pens, an extra warm cloak, and so forth. I
        used to keep everything in a "trapper-keeper" clipboard, or just a bag.

        Constables are one of the very few "jobs" in the Kingdom where you can
        "order the populace around" just about anywhere. Don't abuse that "power".
        It's tenuous and fleeting.

        Wulfstan Darroldson, OP


        From: Susan Burch-Williamson <lady_bethia@...>
        To my Constables;
        ..... since the responsibility of a senior constable is larger.
        In Service
        Bethia de la Birche Kingdom Constable





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      • Larry McCoy
        ... LoL Wulfy.. I d not suggest any constable, Senior, Kingdom or even Corporate try walking into any camp and ordering any one around.... especially If I m
        Message 3 of 12 , Mar 27, 2006
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          Dan Wagner wrote:

          >Yep. The big thing is- once you're a Senior (well, really, once the Populace
          >knows you're a Senior) you're never really off duty. Even when you're "on
          >break" or whatever. (Ask "Uncle Wulfy" to tell you the Rattesnake Story
          >sometime....).This means keeping an eye on your behavior (lapses occur but
          >they take a while to be forgiven, however they are forgiven, as witness the
          >fact that *I* am a Pelican <g>), and that means your alcohol intake. Also,
          >unless it's super-official Constable business, be sure not to sign normal
          >everyday posts to SCA-West with your new "rank"- this also applies to Group
          >& even higher Constables. Note that while for a while I was one of the big
          >"midden-stirrers" on SCA-West, I made sure to sign *those* posts "Wulfy" not
          >"Wulfstan Darroldson Chief (or High) Constable". <G> ;-)
          >
          >And, that also means that in theory, the CinC can ask some rather large
          >favours of you, and you really should only say "no" when it's very dire
          >indeed. In other words, don't be surprised to arrive early and if you are
          >the 1st Senior on site (other than the CinC) for the CinC to tell you he's
          >has to leave site or even not work as there was a medical emergency, and
          >thus "it's all yours, baby!"... until you can get someone more Senior to you
          >to show up. So, always have some equiptment in your car. Not much- a few
          >mastercopies of the blank waivers, (and maybe even a few from some old
          >events)- a clipboard, a couple of pens, an extra warm cloak, and so forth. I
          >used to keep everything in a "trapper-keeper" clipboard, or just a bag.
          >
          >Constables are one of the very few "jobs" in the Kingdom where you can
          >"order the populace around" just about anywhere. Don't abuse that "power".
          >It's tenuous and fleeting.
          >
          >Wulfstan Darroldson, OP
          >
          >
          LoL Wulfy..
          I'd not suggest any constable, Senior, Kingdom or even Corporate try
          walking into any camp and ordering any one around.... especially If I'm
          there..... LOL....
          but yeah.. If you're a senior type constable.. you can expect to be
          called on to "perform" at any time..

          And Yes, I'll be at West-Antir this year, so I can help out once my
          camp is up.

          Sir Anluan Trelaine
        • Susan Burch-Williamson
          Yes Sir; The Knights can be a surly lot sometimes. But if you carry a bigger stick than they have at the time they sometimes cooperate. Bethia who has had to
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            Yes Sir;
            The Knights can be a surly lot sometimes.
            But if you carry a bigger stick than they have at the time they sometimes cooperate.
            Bethia who has had to tell a few Knights and other Titles off.


            Larry McCoy <trelaine@...> wrote:
            Dan Wagner wrote:

            >Yep. The big thing is- once you're a Senior (well, really, once the Populace
            >knows you're a Senior) you're never really off duty. Even when you're "on
            >break" or whatever. (Ask "Uncle Wulfy" to tell you the Rattesnake Story
            >sometime....).This means keeping an eye on your behavior (lapses occur but
            >they take a while to be forgiven, however they are forgiven, as witness the
            >fact that *I* am a Pelican <g>), and that means your alcohol intake. Also,
            >unless it's super-official Constable business, be sure not to sign normal
            >everyday posts to SCA-West with your new "rank"- this also applies to Group
            >& even higher Constables. Note that while for a while I was one of the big
            >"midden-stirrers" on SCA-West, I made sure to sign *those* posts "Wulfy" not
            >"Wulfstan Darroldson Chief (or High) Constable". <G> ;-)
            >
            >And, that also means that in theory, the CinC can ask some rather large
            >favours of you, and you really should only say "no" when it's very dire
            >indeed. In other words, don't be surprised to arrive early and if you are
            >the 1st Senior on site (other than the CinC) for the CinC to tell you he's
            >has to leave site or even not work as there was a medical emergency, and
            >thus "it's all yours, baby!"... until you can get someone more Senior to you
            >to show up. So, always have some equiptment in your car. Not much- a few
            >mastercopies of the blank waivers, (and maybe even a few from some old
            >events)- a clipboard, a couple of pens, an extra warm cloak, and so forth. I
            >used to keep everything in a "trapper-keeper" clipboard, or just a bag.
            >
            >Constables are one of the very few "jobs" in the Kingdom where you can
            >"order the populace around" just about anywhere. Don't abuse that "power".
            >It's tenuous and fleeting.
            >
            >Wulfstan Darroldson, OP
            >
            >
            LoL Wulfy..
            I'd not suggest any constable, Senior, Kingdom or even Corporate try
            walking into any camp and ordering any one around.... especially If I'm
            there..... LOL....
            but yeah.. If you're a senior type constable.. you can expect to be
            called on to "perform" at any time..

            And Yes, I'll be at West-Antir this year, so I can help out once my
            camp is up.

            Sir Anluan Trelaine



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          • Susan Burch-Williamson
            This was meant as tongue in cheek my icons seemed to have disappeared. Bethia Susan Burch-Williamson wrote: Yes Sir; The Knights can be
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              This was meant as tongue in cheek my icons seemed to have disappeared.
              Bethia
              Susan Burch-Williamson <lady_bethia@...> wrote:
              Yes Sir;
              The Knights can be a surly lot sometimes.
              But if you carry a bigger stick than they have at the time they sometimes cooperate.
              Bethia who has had to tell a few Knights and other Titles off.




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            • Larry McCoy
              ... heheh.. not a problem, taken as such.... but I hear you. Sometimes Peers can be a harder bunch to deal with, than the fringies or newbies that don t know
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                Susan Burch-Williamson wrote:

                >This was meant as tongue in cheek my icons seemed to have disappeared.
                > Bethia
                >Susan Burch-Williamson <lady_bethia@...> wrote:
                > Yes Sir;
                > The Knights can be a surly lot sometimes.
                > But if you carry a bigger stick than they have at the time they sometimes cooperate.
                > Bethia who has had to tell a few Knights and other Titles off.
                >
                >
                heheh.. not a problem, taken as such....
                but I hear you.
                Sometimes Peers can be a harder bunch to deal with, than the fringies or
                newbies that don't know any better, or that don't seem to care.

                But in my experience, most people are easier to deal with if you don't
                just strut into their camp and start "ordering people around". Even if
                you are totally right in doing so.

                Trelaine
              • The MOMstable
                Gee Whiz, I don t seem to have any problems with ordering Peers around. Even Peers have Moms, after all. I use the patent pending VOM (voice of MOM) on even
                Message 7 of 12 , Mar 28, 2006
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                  Gee Whiz, I don't seem to have any problems with ordering Peers around.
                  Even Peers have Moms, after all. I use the patent pending VOM (voice
                  of MOM) on even the most obnoxious drunks and voila!!! Instant
                  obedience, mostly. If that doesn't work, Christophe and Jared hovering
                  in the background and looming seems to do the rest of it. Or I just
                  have Aidan chew their ankles, seems to feed into their hallucinations
                  and they flip out and become more pliant when they realize I have
                  control of their delusional monsters <very evil grin> Or that I might
                  never, ever feed them again.

                  Hi, Trelaine, hugs and kisses. :)

                  Na'arah
                  The Momstable

                  --- Larry McCoy <trelaine@...> wrote:

                  > Susan Burch-Williamson wrote:
                  >
                  > >This was meant as tongue in cheek my icons seemed to have
                  > disappeared.
                  > > Bethia
                  > >Susan Burch-Williamson <lady_bethia@...> wrote:
                  > > Yes Sir;
                  > > The Knights can be a surly lot sometimes.
                  > > But if you carry a bigger stick than they have at the time they
                  > sometimes cooperate.
                  > > Bethia who has had to tell a few Knights and other Titles off.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > heheh.. not a problem, taken as such....
                  > but I hear you.
                  > Sometimes Peers can be a harder bunch to deal with, than the fringies
                  > or
                  > newbies that don't know any better, or that don't seem to care.
                  >
                  > But in my experience, most people are easier to deal with if you
                  > don't
                  > just strut into their camp and start "ordering people around". Even
                  > if
                  > you are totally right in doing so.
                  >
                  > Trelaine
                  >
                  >
                  >


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                • Christophe d'Avignon
                  Hey! How d *I* get involved in this?! I don t order, I m a nice guy. :-) And the only time I ve loomed intentionally in recent memory was in support of Dona
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                    Hey! How'd *I* get involved in this?! I don't order, I'm a nice guy. :-)
                    And the only time I've loomed intentionally in recent memory was in
                    support of Dona Caterina when she was... convincing... Vinny that his
                    casino needed... insurance. <evil grin>

                    Christophe

                    The MOMstable said:
                    > Gee Whiz, I don't seem to have any problems with ordering Peers around.
                    > Even Peers have Moms, after all. I use the patent pending VOM (voice
                    > of MOM) on even the most obnoxious drunks and voila!!! Instant
                    > obedience, mostly. If that doesn't work, Christophe and Jared hovering
                    > in the background and looming seems to do the rest of it. Or I just
                    > have Aidan chew their ankles, seems to feed into their hallucinations
                    > and they flip out and become more pliant when they realize I have
                    > control of their delusional monsters <very evil grin> Or that I might
                    > never, ever feed them again.
                    >
                    > Hi, Trelaine, hugs and kisses. :)
                    >
                    > Na'arah
                    > The Momstable
                    >
                    > --- Larry McCoy <trelaine@...> wrote:
                    >
                    >> Susan Burch-Williamson wrote:
                    >>
                    >> >This was meant as tongue in cheek my icons seemed to have
                    >> disappeared.
                    >> > Bethia
                    >> >Susan Burch-Williamson <lady_bethia@...> wrote:
                    >> > Yes Sir;
                    >> > The Knights can be a surly lot sometimes.
                    >> > But if you carry a bigger stick than they have at the time they
                    >> sometimes cooperate.
                    >> > Bethia who has had to tell a few Knights and other Titles off.
                    >> >
                    >> >
                    >> heheh.. not a problem, taken as such....
                    >> but I hear you.
                    >> Sometimes Peers can be a harder bunch to deal with, than the fringies
                    >> or
                    >> newbies that don't know any better, or that don't seem to care.
                    >>
                    >> But in my experience, most people are easier to deal with if you don't
                    >>
                    >> just strut into their camp and start "ordering people around". Even if
                    >>
                    >> you are totally right in doing so.
                    >>
                    >> Trelaine
                    >>
                    >>
                    >>
                    >
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                  • The MOMstable
                    It s okay, sweetie. *I* know you aren t looming, just merely following me to the promised the brownies and cookies and cheesy goo. But *they* don t know you
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                      It's okay, sweetie. *I* know you aren't looming, just merely following
                      me to the promised the brownies and cookies and cheesy goo. But *they*
                      don't know you aren't looming. <veg> Ya use the tools at hand to
                      accomplish the deeds that need doing. Besides, I share the spoils when
                      we roll the drunks and check their wallets for toll charges - mainly
                      storage, transportation, cleanup, shipping and, of course, handling.

                      Kisses,

                      Na'arah
                      <innocent blinkage>

                      --- Christophe d'Avignon <christophe@...> wrote:

                      > Hey! How'd *I* get involved in this?! I don't order, I'm a nice guy.
                      > :-)
                      > And the only time I've loomed intentionally in recent memory was in
                      > support of Dona Caterina when she was... convincing... Vinny that his
                      > casino needed... insurance. <evil grin>
                      >
                      > Christophe
                      >
                      > The MOMstable said:
                      > > Gee Whiz, I don't seem to have any problems with ordering Peers
                      > around.
                      > > Even Peers have Moms, after all. I use the patent pending VOM
                      > (voice
                      > > of MOM) on even the most obnoxious drunks and voila!!! Instant
                      > > obedience, mostly. If that doesn't work, Christophe and Jared
                      > hovering
                      > > in the background and looming seems to do the rest of it. Or I
                      > just
                      > > have Aidan chew their ankles, seems to feed into their
                      > hallucinations
                      > > and they flip out and become more pliant when they realize I have
                      > > control of their delusional monsters <very evil grin> Or that I
                      > might
                      > > never, ever feed them again.
                      > >
                      > > Hi, Trelaine, hugs and kisses. :)
                      > >
                      > > Na'arah
                      > > The Momstable
                      > >
                      > > --- Larry McCoy <trelaine@...> wrote:
                      > >
                      > >> Susan Burch-Williamson wrote:
                      > >>
                      > >> >This was meant as tongue in cheek my icons seemed to have
                      > >> disappeared.
                      > >> > Bethia
                      > >> >Susan Burch-Williamson <lady_bethia@...> wrote:
                      > >> > Yes Sir;
                      > >> > The Knights can be a surly lot sometimes.
                      > >> > But if you carry a bigger stick than they have at the time they
                      > >> sometimes cooperate.
                      > >> > Bethia who has had to tell a few Knights and other Titles off.
                      > >> >
                      > >> >
                      > >> heheh.. not a problem, taken as such....
                      > >> but I hear you.
                      > >> Sometimes Peers can be a harder bunch to deal with, than the
                      > fringies
                      > >> or
                      > >> newbies that don't know any better, or that don't seem to care.
                      > >>
                      > >> But in my experience, most people are easier to deal with if you
                      > don't
                      > >>
                      > >> just strut into their camp and start "ordering people around".
                      > Even if
                      > >>
                      > >> you are totally right in doing so.
                      > >>
                      > >> Trelaine
                      > >>
                      > >>
                      > >>
                      > >
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                    • Susan Burch-Williamson
                      Amen! Bethia Larry McCoy wrote: ... heheh.. not a problem, taken as such.... but I hear you. Sometimes Peers can be a harder bunch to
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                        Amen!
                        Bethia

                        Larry McCoy <trelaine@...> wrote:
                        Susan Burch-Williamson wrote:

                        >This was meant as tongue in cheek my icons seemed to have disappeared.
                        > Bethia
                        >Susan Burch-Williamson <lady_bethia@...> wrote:
                        > Yes Sir;
                        > The Knights can be a surly lot sometimes.
                        > But if you carry a bigger stick than they have at the time they sometimes cooperate.
                        > Bethia who has had to tell a few Knights and other Titles off.
                        >
                        >
                        heheh.. not a problem, taken as such....
                        but I hear you.
                        Sometimes Peers can be a harder bunch to deal with, than the fringies or
                        newbies that don't know any better, or that don't seem to care.

                        But in my experience, most people are easier to deal with if you don't
                        just strut into their camp and start "ordering people around". Even if
                        you are totally right in doing so.

                        Trelaine




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                      • Susan Burch-Williamson
                        You have been seen looming for me quite nicely. Bethia Christophe d Avignon wrote: Hey! How d *I* get involved in this?! I don t
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                          You have been seen looming for me quite nicely.
                          Bethia

                          Christophe d'Avignon <christophe@...> wrote:
                          Hey! How'd *I* get involved in this?! I don't order, I'm a nice guy. :-)
                          And the only time I've loomed intentionally in recent memory was in
                          support of Dona Caterina when she was... convincing... Vinny that his
                          casino needed... insurance. <evil grin>

                          Christophe

                          The MOMstable said:
                          > Gee Whiz, I don't seem to have any problems with ordering Peers around.
                          > Even Peers have Moms, after all. I use the patent pending VOM (voice
                          > of MOM) on even the most obnoxious drunks and voila!!! Instant
                          > obedience, mostly. If that doesn't work, Christophe and Jared hovering
                          > in the background and looming seems to do the rest of it. Or I just
                          > have Aidan chew their ankles, seems to feed into their hallucinations
                          > and they flip out and become more pliant when they realize I have
                          > control of their delusional monsters <very evil grin> Or that I might
                          > never, ever feed them again.
                          >
                          > Hi, Trelaine, hugs and kisses. :)
                          >
                          > Na'arah
                          > The Momstable
                          >
                          > --- Larry McCoy <trelaine@...> wrote:
                          >
                          >> Susan Burch-Williamson wrote:
                          >>
                          >> >This was meant as tongue in cheek my icons seemed to have
                          >> disappeared.
                          >> > Bethia
                          >> >Susan Burch-Williamson <lady_bethia@...> wrote:
                          >> > Yes Sir;
                          >> > The Knights can be a surly lot sometimes.
                          >> > But if you carry a bigger stick than they have at the time they
                          >> sometimes cooperate.
                          >> > Bethia who has had to tell a few Knights and other Titles off.
                          >> >
                          >> >
                          >> heheh.. not a problem, taken as such....
                          >> but I hear you.
                          >> Sometimes Peers can be a harder bunch to deal with, than the fringies
                          >> or
                          >> newbies that don't know any better, or that don't seem to care.
                          >>
                          >> But in my experience, most people are easier to deal with if you don't
                          >>
                          >> just strut into their camp and start "ordering people around". Even if
                          >>
                          >> you are totally right in doing so.
                          >>
                          >> Trelaine
                          >>
                          >>
                          >>
                          >
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                        • david williamson
                          So says one of the founding members of the West Kingdom s Constabulary Brute Squad. From another of the founding members of said squad. We can afford to be
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                            So says one of the founding members of the West
                            Kingdom's Constabulary Brute Squad. From another of
                            the founding members of said squad. We can afford to
                            be nice guys. We members of the Squad, we can afford
                            to be nice guys. We just back up appropriate
                            considerably smaller Constables in need of the Brute
                            Squad. :) And they can be nasty, while we smile and
                            nod our collective heads in agreement.

                            "Lytsarskaya Tchest."

                            Ivan Ivanovich


                            --- Christophe d'Avignon <christophe@...>
                            wrote:

                            > Hey! How'd *I* get involved in this?! I don't order,
                            > I'm a nice guy. :-)
                            > And the only time I've loomed intentionally in
                            > recent memory was in
                            > support of Dona Caterina when she was...
                            > convincing... Vinny that his
                            > casino needed... insurance. <evil grin>
                            >
                            > Christophe
                            >
                            > The MOMstable said:
                            > > Gee Whiz, I don't seem to have any problems with
                            > ordering Peers around.
                            > > Even Peers have Moms, after all. I use the
                            > patent pending VOM (voice
                            > > of MOM) on even the most obnoxious drunks and
                            > voila!!! Instant
                            > > obedience, mostly. If that doesn't work,
                            > Christophe and Jared hovering
                            > > in the background and looming seems to do the rest
                            > of it. Or I just
                            > > have Aidan chew their ankles, seems to feed into
                            > their hallucinations
                            > > and they flip out and become more pliant when they
                            > realize I have
                            > > control of their delusional monsters <very evil
                            > grin> Or that I might
                            > > never, ever feed them again.
                            > >
                            > > Hi, Trelaine, hugs and kisses. :)
                            > >
                            > > Na'arah
                            > > The Momstable
                            > >
                            > > --- Larry McCoy <trelaine@...> wrote:
                            > >
                            > >> Susan Burch-Williamson wrote:
                            > >>
                            > >> >This was meant as tongue in cheek my icons
                            > seemed to have
                            > >> disappeared.
                            > >> > Bethia
                            > >> >Susan Burch-Williamson <lady_bethia@...>
                            > wrote:
                            > >> > Yes Sir;
                            > >> > The Knights can be a surly lot sometimes.
                            > >> > But if you carry a bigger stick than they have
                            > at the time they
                            > >> sometimes cooperate.
                            > >> > Bethia who has had to tell a few Knights and
                            > other Titles off.
                            > >> >
                            > >> >
                            > >> heheh.. not a problem, taken as such....
                            > >> but I hear you.
                            > >> Sometimes Peers can be a harder bunch to deal
                            > with, than the fringies
                            > >> or
                            > >> newbies that don't know any better, or that don't
                            > seem to care.
                            > >>
                            > >> But in my experience, most people are easier to
                            > deal with if you don't
                            > >>
                            > >> just strut into their camp and start "ordering
                            > people around". Even if
                            > >>
                            > >> you are totally right in doing so.
                            > >>
                            > >> Trelaine
                            > >>
                            > >>
                            > >>
                            > >
                            > >
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