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  • Sean Roylance
    Martin, According to the Google Analytics help center, they do not track hits from search engine spiders. Here is a link that explains it:
    Message 1 of 10 , May 3, 2006
      Martin,

      According to the Google Analytics help center, they do not track hits from search engine spiders.

      Here is a link that explains it:
      http://www.google.com/support/analytics/bin/answer.py?answer=27237&query=spider&topic=0&type=f

      Hope that helps.

      Sean

      ----- Original Message ----
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      To: webanalytics@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2006 3:16:39 AM
      Subject: RE: [webanalytics] Re: Google Analytics - do the stats include hits from spiders?

      Hello

      a question from a complete beginner here.

      Can anyone tell me whether the statistics on Google Analytics include
      hits from search engine spiders, or whether these are stripped out?

      Thanks

      Martin



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    • Jackson, Janet (GE Healthcare)
      Ok, quick question regarding this....is that a good thing or bad thing that most search engine spiders do not process javascript? Janet M. Jackson E-Commerce
      Message 2 of 10 , May 3, 2006
        Ok, quick question regarding this....is that a good thing or bad thing
        that most search engine spiders do not process javascript?


        Janet M. Jackson
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        GE Healthcare
        Surgery
        640 Wright Brothers Drive
        Salt Lake City, UT 84116
        T: (801) 536-4544
        F: (801) 517-6523
        D: 8*255-4544
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        On Behalf Of Mike Chipman
        Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 9:44 AM
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        Subject: Re: [webanalytics] Re: Google Analytics - do the stats include
        hits from spiders?

        Hi Martin. Google Analytics uses a javascript-generated tracking
        cookie, similar to HBX/CoreMetrics/Omniture/etc. Only spiders that
        process javascript will be tracked. That being said, most search engine
        spiders do not process javascript.


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        On 5/3/06, Martin Pratt <m_pratt@...> wrote:
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        > Hello
        >
        > a question from a complete beginner here.
        >
        > Can anyone tell me whether the statistics on Google Analytics include
        > hits from search engine spiders, or whether these are stripped out?
        >
        > Thanks
        >
        > Martin
        >
        >
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        > Martin Pratt
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      • Andrew Edwards
        Hi Janet-- That is a good thing assuming you want to count actual page views as page views, and not thousands or even millions of spider/robot hits to your
        Message 3 of 10 , May 3, 2006
          Hi Janet--

          That is a good thing assuming you want to count actual page views as
          page views, and not thousands or even millions of spider/robot hits to
          your pages that do not represent actual people accessing the pages.

          Generally speaking, utilization of java tags increases accuracy and
          depresses overall page views--without tagging, your raw page view
          numbers are almost always artificially inflated by robot and spider
          activity. . .

          --Andrew Edwards

          Jackson, Janet (GE Healthcare) wrote:

          >Ok, quick question regarding this....is that a good thing or bad thing
          >that most search engine spiders do not process javascript?
          >
          >
          >Janet M. Jackson
          >E-Commerce Marketing Specialist
          >GE Healthcare
          >Surgery
          >640 Wright Brothers Drive
          >Salt Lake City, UT 84116
          >T: (801) 536-4544
          >F: (801) 517-6523
          >D: 8*255-4544
          >E: janet.jackson@...
          >www.gehealthcare.com
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          >-----Original Message-----
          >From: webanalytics@yahoogroups.com [mailto:webanalytics@yahoogroups.com]
          >On Behalf Of Mike Chipman
          >Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 9:44 AM
          >To: webanalytics@yahoogroups.com
          >Subject: Re: [webanalytics] Re: Google Analytics - do the stats include
          >hits from spiders?
          >
          >Hi Martin. Google Analytics uses a javascript-generated tracking
          >cookie, similar to HBX/CoreMetrics/Omniture/etc. Only spiders that
          >process javascript will be tracked. That being said, most search engine
          >spiders do not process javascript.
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          >On 5/3/06, Martin Pratt <m_pratt@...> wrote:
          >
          >
          >>Hello
          >>
          >>a question from a complete beginner here.
          >>
          >>Can anyone tell me whether the statistics on Google Analytics include
          >>hits from search engine spiders, or whether these are stripped out?
          >>
          >>Thanks
          >>
          >>Martin
          >>
          >>
          >>
          >>Martin Pratt
          >>Senior Executive
          >>
          >>Institution of Mechanical Engineers
          >>Research and Communications
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          >>London SW1H 9JJ
          >>e-mail: m_pratt@...
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        • Lars
          That depends on what you want to measure. From a SEO point of view you may want to know which spiders come to your website, how often they come and what pages
          Message 4 of 10 , May 3, 2006
            That depends on what you want to measure.
            From a SEO point of view you may want to know which spiders come to
            your website, how often
            they come and what pages they spider. But if you're tracking visitors
            and want to look at conversion
            rates it'd be a mistake to include traffic from spiders.

            Lars


            Jackson, Janet (GE Healthcare) wrote:
            > Ok, quick question regarding this....is that a good thing or bad thing
            > that most search engine spiders do not process javascript?
            >
            >
            > Janet M. Jackson
            > E-Commerce Marketing Specialist
            > GE Healthcare
            > Surgery
            > 640 Wright Brothers Drive
            > Salt Lake City, UT 84116
            > T: (801) 536-4544
            > F: (801) 517-6523
            > D: 8*255-4544
            > E: janet.jackson@...
            > www.gehealthcare.com
            >
            > -----Original Message-----
            > From: webanalytics@yahoogroups.com [mailto:webanalytics@yahoogroups.com]
            > On Behalf Of Mike Chipman
            > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 9:44 AM
            > To: webanalytics@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: Re: [webanalytics] Re: Google Analytics - do the stats include
            > hits from spiders?
            >
            > Hi Martin. Google Analytics uses a javascript-generated tracking
            > cookie, similar to HBX/CoreMetrics/Omniture/etc. Only spiders that
            > process javascript will be tracked. That being said, most search engine
            > spiders do not process javascript.
            >
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          • Seby Kallarakkal
            The good thing is that it saves you the trouble of eliminating spider traffic later. But if you are kind of very sensitive about search engine optimization and
            Message 5 of 10 , May 3, 2006
              The good thing is that it saves you the trouble of eliminating spider traffic later. But if you are kind of very sensitive about search engine optimization and if you are keen to know which spider visited which page and when, spider traffic data helps.

              Hope that helps.

              Seby



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              -----Original Message-----
              From: "Jackson, Janet \(GE Healthcare\)" <janet.jackson@...>
              Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 12:12:06
              To:<webanalytics@yahoogroups.com>
              Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: [webanalytics] Re: Google Analytics - do the stats include hits from spiders?

              Ok, quick question regarding this....is that a good thing or bad thing
              that most search engine spiders do not process javascript?


              Janet M. Jackson
              E-Commerce Marketing Specialist
              GE Healthcare
              Surgery
              640 Wright Brothers Drive
              Salt Lake City, UT 84116
              T: (801) 536-4544
              F: (801) 517-6523
              D: 8*255-4544
              E: janet.jackson@...
              www.gehealthcare.com

              -----Original Message-----
              From: webanalytics@yahoogroups.com [mailto:webanalytics@yahoogroups.com]
              On Behalf Of Mike Chipman
              Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 9:44 AM
              To: webanalytics@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [webanalytics] Re: Google Analytics - do the stats include
              hits from spiders?

              Hi Martin.  Google Analytics uses a javascript-generated tracking
              cookie, similar to HBX/CoreMetrics/Omniture/etc.  Only spiders that
              process javascript will be tracked.  That being said, most search engine
              spiders do not process javascript.


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              On 5/3/06, Martin Pratt <m_pratt@...> wrote:
              >
              > Hello
              >
              > a question from a complete beginner here.
              >
              > Can anyone tell me whether the statistics on Google Analytics include
              > hits from search engine spiders, or whether these are stripped out?
              >
              > Thanks
              >
              > Martin
              >
              >
              >
              > Martin Pratt
              > Senior Executive
              >
              > Institution of Mechanical Engineers
              > Research and Communications
              > 1 Birdcage Walk, Westminster
              > London SW1H 9JJ
              > e-mail: m_pratt@...
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            • Stephen Turner
              ... Some advocates of page tagging have claimed that this is an advantage of the page tagging methodology over logfiles, but I ve always argued the opposite:
              Message 6 of 10 , May 4, 2006
                --- In webanalytics@yahoogroups.com, "Jackson, Janet \(GE
                Healthcare\)" <janet.jackson@...> wrote:
                >
                > Ok, quick question regarding this....is that a good thing or bad thing
                > that most search engine spiders do not process javascript?
                >

                Some advocates of page tagging have claimed that this is an advantage
                of the page tagging methodology over logfiles, but I've always argued
                the opposite: that this is one of the main advantages of using
                logfiles rather than page tagging. Of course, the spider data
                shouldn't be included in the same category as ordinary visitors, but a
                good program will deal with that automatically for you. But for SEO,
                that data is useful, and with logfiles it's there when you need it.

                Of course, there are other advantages of page tagging over logfiles.
                I'm only saying that the decision is not as obvious as some people claim.

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              • Martin Pratt
                Sean thanks for pointing that out, most helpful. Martin Martin Pratt Senior Executive Institution of Mechanical Engineers Research and Communications 1
                Message 7 of 10 , May 5, 2006
                  Sean

                  thanks for pointing that out, most helpful.

                  Martin


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                  Martin,

                  According to the Google Analytics help center, they do not track hits
                  from search engine spiders.

                  Here is a link that explains it:
                  http://www.google.com/support/analytics/bin/answer.py?answer=27237
                  <http://www.google.com/support/analytics/bin/answer.py?answer=27237&quer
                  y=spider&topic=0&type=f> &query=spider&topic=0&type=f

                  Hope that helps.

                  Sean

                  ----- Original Message ----
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                  Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2006 3:16:39 AM
                  Subject: RE: [webanalytics] Re: Google Analytics - do the stats include
                  hits from spiders?

                  Hello

                  a question from a complete beginner here.

                  Can anyone tell me whether the statistics on Google Analytics include
                  hits from search engine spiders, or whether these are stripped out?

                  Thanks

                  Martin



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                  Research and Communications
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