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23588Re: [webanalytics] Re: Visits and Visitor Sessions

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  • Ramjee Ganti
    Sep 2, 2009
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      Yes.. Visits and Sessions are same.!
      rAm

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      > <http://sodidi.ramjeeganti.com>
      > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Stephen Wagh <stephen.wagh@...>wrote:
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      >> So you mean ..visits and the sessions are the same.
      >>
      >> Please confirm.
      >>
      >> Thank you,
      >> Stephen
      >>
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      >> ________________________________
      >> From: shamel67 <shamel67@... <shamel67%40gmail.com>>
      >> To: webanalytics@yahoogroups.com <webanalytics%40yahoogroups.com>
      >> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 9:59:16 AM
      >> Subject: [webanalytics] Re: Visits and Visitor Sessions
      >>
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      >> Miles is right, Adam is wrong... Visitors and visits are really not the
      >> same. Furthermore, "visitors" are NOT "people".
      >>
      >> "Visitors" are merely an indication that multiple visits came from the
      >> same computing environment (i.e. same browser on the same computer - same
      >> cookie identifier, or in some cases, when cookies are not used, same browser
      >> version identification string and network address - or same mobile phone)...
      >> unless the user can be authenticated (using username/password or other means
      >> of validating identity).
      >>
      >> As you see from this simple example, things can get pretty complicated
      >> pretty fast. Knowing how your metrics are defined is essential.
      >>
      >> To help out, may I suggest reading the WAA Web Analytics Definitions,
      >> which clearly defines the basic metrics: http://www.webanalyticsassociation. org/attachments/ committees/ 5/WAA_Web_ Analytics_
      >> Definitions_ 20080922_ For_Public_ Comment.pdf
      >>
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      >>
      >> --- In webanalytics@ yahoogroups. com, "Miles Bennett (Targetstone) "
      >> <miles.bennett@ ...> wrote:
      >> >
      >> > Sorry to disagree but a visitor is one person and a visit is the
      >> session. Therefore one person can come to your site multiple times whether
      >> this be measured by an authenticated username or a web analytics cookie
      >> value. If that individual is measured by a web analytics cookie value, and
      >> isn't required/doesn' t sign in, then accesses from two different pcs then
      >> they are classed as two visitors.
      >> > Miles Bennett
      >> > TargetStone
      >> > M: 07545822786
      >> > W: www.targetstone. com
      >> > B: http://blog. targetstone. com
      >> > L: http://www.linkedin.com/in/milesbennett
      >> >
      >> > -----Original Message-----
      >> > From: Adam Berlinger <aberlinger1@ ...>
      >> >
      >> > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 06:45:40
      >> > To: <webanalytics@ yahoogroups. com>
      >> > Subject: Re: [webanalytics] Visits and Visitor Sessions
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > First and foremost, see how your current analytics package defines both.
      >> Then you'll have your most relevant answer. But yes, they are pretty much
      >> the same. The session is how long the visit lasts. Most packages will
      >> timeout after the 30 minutes of being idle.
      >> >
      >> > Thanks,
      >> > Adam
      >> > http://analyticsbya dam.blogspot. com
      >> >
      >> >
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      >> > From: Stephen Wagh <stephen.wagh@ ...>
      >> > To: webanalytics@ yahoogroups. com
      >> > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:12:13 PM
      >> > Subject: [webanalytics] Visits and Visitor Sessions
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > Hi Everybody,
      >> >
      >> > is the number of visits and the visitor sessions are same?
      >> >
      >> > I know its a very basic question, but I wanted to get a confirmation.
      >> >
      >> > Please let me know.
      >> >
      >> > Thank you,
      >> > Stephen
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