17478Re: Analtyics voor mobile phones.
As Avinash likes to say (paraphrase) "they all suck, just pick the
tool that sucks less for you"
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Brendan Butterworth"
> Greets Craig,
> Take a quick re-read. I'm talking dictionary definition of
> accuracy, which is to say "having determinate limitations; exactly or
> sharply defined or stated; definite; exact; nice; not vague or
> equivocal." I'm also very specific about the scope of log analysis -
> it is exactly what happened on the web server, and is a tool that is
> very effective for network administration, useful for threat
> detection, capacity planning, and so on.
> I agree that there are efficient caches, and I did highlight that
> page views even when the page wasn't requested from your server".
> implementation will depend on various factors (I've snuck in one
> - Presence or absence of noscript tag
> - Client use of anti-tracking browser extensions, firewalls, proxies,
> and HOSTS files
> Other members of the list may have more to add.
> All of these illustrate to me that the numbers generated by a
> they are vague to a certain, unmeasurable degree.
> Overall, I stand by my assertion that, when it comes down to it, web
> analytics isn't about numbers, and therefore accuracy doesn't have to
> play a front and center role. It's about trending, and when you're
> trending, consistency is a great stand-in for accuracy.
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Craig Sullivan
> <craig.sullivan@...> wrote:
> > Brendan,
> > always going to be more accurate than log files.
> > There are local caches maintained by the browser (IE is particularly
> > aggressive) and many ISPs (e.g. AOL) operate large banks of
> > proxy servers that also do caching between client and origin server.[mailto:email@example.com]
> > The net effect of losing cached page views will make a serious dent in
> > the figures.
> > Regards,
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> > Craig Sullivan
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> > Sent: 29 May 2008 10:20
> > To: email@example.com
> > Subject: Re: [webanalytics] Analtyics voor mobile phones.
> > I have to jump in on the 'analyzing server log files are not so
> > Web server log analysis gives you the best picture of what happened on
> > the web server. It remains an excellent tool for understanding the
> > actual use of the resources, a great way of detecting and analyzing
> > attacks on servers - overall a solid tool for a network administrator.
> > page views even when the page wasn't requested from your server). It
> > will either include a noscript tag in order to track HTTP clients
> > depending on tool and implementation, which has a unique set of
> > implications. This type of tracking can be blocked by certain browser
> > doesn't care about physical web server location, and can be
> > business and marketing types - especially since it's more often tied
> > to recognizable brand names.
> > accurate (in the dictionary sense of accurate) than log analysis.
> > However, the business of web analytics isn't knowing you had exactly
> > 107 page views - it's knowing that the number of visitors to the web
> > site this month has increased in a statistically significant manner of
> > the number of visitors last month. It's knowing that the tweaks made
> > to the buying funnel have resulted in an increase in conversions.
> > Most of the time it's not about numbers - it's about trends.
> > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:37 AM, emiel.kamzol <emiel.kamzol@...
> > <mailto:emiel.kamzol%40gmail.com> > wrote:
> >> Hi there,
> >> I'm trying to find out how web analytics works for websites designed
> >> tagging and loading an 1x1 px image.
> >> Is it true that it only works whit analyzing local server log file?
> >> ore is there also another way? Because I understand that analyzing
> >> Thanks in advance.
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