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11608Re: [webanalytics] Re: Relationship between page load time and drop-off rate?

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  • Apurba Sen
    Jul 3 6:48 AM
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      Hey Justo,

      Thanks a lot.My estimation was 100% ..its somewhere close to 50% :)

      -Apurba


      On 7/3/07, justo_ibarra <jibarra@...> wrote:
      >
      > Hi everybody:
      >
      > I just read a recent article about the 8 seconds rule. Altough
      > develops a more theoretical approach on the subject maybe results
      > helpfull.
      >
      > http://www.silverpop.com/landing/emarketer/24.html
      >
      > You can download it for free.
      >
      > Regards,
      >
      > Justo Ibarra.
      > jibarra@... <jibarra%40latin3.com>
      >
      > --- In webanalytics@yahoogroups.com <webanalytics%40yahoogroups.com>,
      > "Apurba Sen" <sensession@...>
      > wrote:
      > >
      > > Hey Tim!!
      > >
      > > Let me answer your query from marketing standpoint,to be specific
      > through
      > > Brand Loyalty vs Satisfaction.
      > >
      > > Using Jones & Sasser framework, customers can be plotted in 4
      > quadrants of
      > > Loyalty [Y Axis] vs Satisfaction [X Axis]
      > >
      > > A.Loyalty Low -Satisfaction Low :Terrorist
      > >
      > > B.Loyalty Low-Satisfaction High :Mercenaries
      > >
      > > C.Loyalty High-Satisfaction Low :Hostages
      > >
      > > D.Loyalty High-Satisfaction High :Apostles
      > >
      > >
      > > Customers at the lowest and highest ends of the satisfaction scale
      > tend to
      > > have intense feelings about a brand and its products /services.
      > Terrorists
      > > actively attack the brand telling others not to buy from the
      > company.
      > > Apostles are satisfied and loyal and talk favourably about the
      > brand.
      > >
      > > Using your examples...
      > >
      > > Terrorist or Mercenaries:Page load time would be a somehow bigger
      > deal where
      > > plenty of alternative sites are available.They can be found in
      > abundance in
      > > [cnn.com vs. msnbc.com, lowes.com vs. homedepot.com, espn.com vs.
      > > sportsillustrated.cnn.com]
      > >
      > > Apostles or Hostages:B2B world ,niches even
      > > www.webanalyticsassociation.org.Thinking abt "Hostages" in this
      > group..what
      > > are the other options avl with them :-)
      > >
      > > Hope this was enlightening enough.
      > >
      > > Reducing page delivery time should always be a goal while designing
      > the
      > > page/information layout e.g. progressive download with relatively
      > static
      > > content being cached.
      > >
      > > Regds
      > >
      > > Apurba Sen
      > >
      > > Related Article :
      > >
      > > Jones, T., & Sasser, E., 'Why Satisfied Customers Defect' - *Harvard
      > > Business Review*, Nov-Dec 1995
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > On 7/2/07, Tim Wilson <twilson@...> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Hmmm. These articles both seem pretty thin when it comes to any
      > data to
      > > > validate the theory.
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > To me, it's always seemed like page load time would be a much
      > bigger deal
      > > > for sites where there are lots of other alternative sites that
      > can be
      > > > expected to offer largely similar content: cnn.com vs. msnbc.com,
      > > > lowes.com vs. homedepot.com, espn.com vs.
      > sportsillustrated.cnn.com. In a
      > > > B2C world, for sites that I'm going to get into a pattern of
      > visiting,
      > > > persistently slow load times are going to drive me to look
      > elsewhere. In the
      > > > B2B world �€" higher price point products/services, more niches,
      > longer buying
      > > > cycle �€" it seems like small changes in page load times would
      > not have much
      > > > of an impact. I would happily wait for 10 seconds for a
      > > > www.webanalyticsassociation.org
      > <http://www.webanalyticsassociation.org/>
      > > > page to load (not that it takes that long!).
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > It's an interesting challenge for folks on the IT side of the
      > house �€" new
      > > > functionality rolling out that may require more server crunching
      > to deliver
      > > > it. How much $$$ should they spend to maintain or reduce load
      > times in the
      > > > light of new functionality (that, presumably, adds more value for
      > the
      > > > visitor)?
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > (Sorry, Michelle �€" I don't have an answer by any means…but
      > I'd love to see
      > > > some insights on this from this group!)
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > Tim
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > ________________________________
      > > >
      > > > From: webanalytics@yahoogroups.com <webanalytics%40yahoogroups.com><webanalytics%
      > 40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
      > > > webanalytics@yahoogroups.com <webanalytics%40yahoogroups.com><webanalytics%40yahoogroups.com>] On
      > Behalf
      > > > Of Apurba Sen
      > > > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 4:50 AM
      > > > To: webanalytics@yahoogroups.com <webanalytics%40yahoogroups.com><webanalytics%40yahoogroups.com>
      > > > Subject: Re: [webanalytics] Relationship between page load time
      > and
      > > > drop-off rate?
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > Hey Michelle,
      > > >
      > > > Reminds me of 8 second rule :) i.e if users have to wait longer
      > than 8
      > > > seconds to download a Web page, they will go elsewhere.So any
      > page load
      > > > time
      > > > greater than or equal to 8 sec should ideally mean 100 % drop
      > off :)
      > > >
      > > > Some related links:
      > > >
      > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_performance <
      > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_performance>
      > > >
      > > > http://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_term/0,2542,t=8-
      > second+rule&i=37197,00.asp<
      > > > http://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_term/0,2542,t=8-
      > second+rule&i=37197,00.asp>
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > Regds
      > > > Apurba
      > > >
      > > > On 6/28/07, Michelle Runyan <michelle.runyan@...<michelle.runyan%
      > 40ni.com><mailto:
      > > > michelle.runyan%40ni.com> > wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > Has anyone done analysis or seen data that shows the
      > relationship
      > > > > between load time and drop-off rate? I have seen a few reports
      > that
      > > > > present what people say they are ok with (for example
      > > > >
      > http://www.akamai.com/dl/reports/Site_Abandonment_Final_Report.pdf <
      > > >
      > http://www.akamai.com/dl/reports/Site_Abandonment_Final_Report.pdf> ),
      > > > > but the real value is in what the data says.
      > > > >
      > > > > We have tried analyzing our raw data and can't find a wide
      > enough
      > > > > spectrum of load times to derive that X% drop off at 3-4
      > seconds and X%
      > > > > drop off at 5-6 seconds ...
      > > > >
      > > > > If you have any thought or ideas please let me know.
      > > > >
      > > > > Thanks,
      > > > > Michelle
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > >
      > > > --
      > > > Cheers!!
      > > > Apurba Sen
      > > > Product Development
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      > > > http://apurba.rediffiland.com <http://apurba.rediffiland.com>
      > > > Phone :91-22 2444 9144 * 313
      > > > GSM :91-98670- 85718
      > > >
      > > > "Champions aren't made in the gyms. Champions are made from
      > something they
      > > >
      > > > have deep inside them -- a desire, a dream, a vision."
      > > >
      > > > --Muhammad Ali
      > > >
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      > > >
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      > >
      > >
      > > --
      > > Cheers!!
      > > Apurba Sen
      > > Product Development
      > > रेडीफ़.कॉम इंडिया
      > लिमिटेड
      > > NASDAQ:REDF
      > > web:www.rediff.com
      > > http://apurba.rediffiland.com
      > > Phone :91-22 2444 9144 * 313
      > > GSM :91-98670- 85718
      > >
      > > "Champions aren't made in the gyms. Champions are made from
      > something they
      > > have deep inside them -- a desire, a dream, a vision."
      > >
      > > --Muhammad Ali
      > >
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      --
      Cheers!!
      Apurba Sen
      Product Development
      रेडीफ़.कॉम इंडिया लिमिटेड
      NASDAQ:REDF
      web:www.rediff.com
      http://apurba.rediffiland.com
      Phone :91-22 2444 9144 * 313
      GSM :91-98670- 85718

      "Champions aren't made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they
      have deep inside them -- a desire, a dream, a vision."

      --Muhammad Ali


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