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    --Kathy: Some of us are working on getting new board members, keep your eyes and ears open for Karen Pfeifer. I will send you her flyer later. ... [Non-text
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      --Kathy:

      Some of us are working on getting new board members, keep your eyes and ears open for Karen Pfeifer. I will send you her flyer later.






      -------------- Original message from "Kathy Rollins" : --------------
      >
      >
      > Kathy Rollins
      > Supervising Business Agent
      > Public Employees Union, Local One
      > 4197 Lakeside Drive, Suite 170
      > Richmond, Ca, 94806
      > 510 222 5012
      > fax 510 222 8858
      > krollins@...
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Kathy Rollins [mailto:krollins@...]
      > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 2:34 PM
      > To: rcs101@...; wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.com;
      > march4education@yahoogroups.com
      > Cc: karen mason; Muriel D. James; Terry Jackson; Kevin Rivard;
      > wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.com; c_cowens@...
      > Subject: RE: [wccusdtalk] Re: High School Reform
      >
      >
      > Scottie:
      >
      > I agree with you about the wrong priorities being reflected by the action of
      > the school board last night. During the months long budget setting process,
      > one thing it seems all could agree on was that the cuts should be as far
      > from the classrooms and schools as possible. At the last board meeting they
      > adopted priorities for any extra funds that were more student centered. For
      > the District to add on administrators the first meeting in the new fiscal
      > year after cutting over $8 million with a great impact on sites is misguided
      > at best. It is disturbing that they do not seem to get that they should not
      > be doing what they did at this time. The message to us was that we did not
      > see the big picture of need the way they do.
      >
      > The District has often taken steps that are contrary to what their
      > priorities and values are supposed to be and somehow the Board has a way of
      > making excuses and justifying it away. The failure of the District to
      > fulfill their commitments to Local One last year is the primary reason that
      > our members were unwilling to give up something this year. The District
      > wanted the classified employees to fund bringing back the campus safety
      > staff. Our members had no trust that their sacrifice would not be like last
      > year when the District did not fill the 10 custodial positions we bought
      > back, top management folks did not take furlough days and administrators
      > received raises or class upgrades after the collective unionized staff gave
      > up salary to maintain programs. The District practices such classism, my
      > members are not willing to participate in the same way.
      >
      > As to Hersh's answer that they would let the campus safety staff know in
      > August if they will get to come back, we did not consider that response
      > satisfactory. The District knows this because we have had meetings, written
      > letters to the board and GJ and spoke at all the board meetings about it.
      > They should have never laid off 100% of these people and the fact that they
      > did, demonstrates the poor management and classism in this district.
      >
      > I do not know the answer for holding the Supt and School Board accountable.
      > Clearly many people approve because otherwise they would have other people
      > in the positions.
      >
      >
      > Kathy Rollins
      > krollins@...
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: rcs101@... [mailto:rcs101@...]
      > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 11:08 AM
      > To: wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.com; march4education@yahoogroups.com
      > Cc: kathy rollins; karen mason; Muriel D. James; Terry Jackson; Kevin
      > Rivard; wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.com; c_cowens@...
      > Subject: RE: [wccusdtalk] Re: High School Reform
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > --Hello All:
      >
      > I really like the discussions as they relate to the way business can
      > contribute to the district and how the district work with parents, students
      > and communities. I guess I am getting a little tried of the BS that goes on
      > in this district and how the board in particular play these little games
      > with the public. It was may understanding that the Richmond City Council was
      > told to hold off on the resolution vote until after the meeting with GJ. It
      > was great to see that they did not wait for the "Masser" to give them their
      > freedom to vote, but proceeded in their flight for freedom by voting to pass
      > the resolution and telling the "Master" that they supported the emancipation
      > of the Hilltop neighborhood. Now it will be interesting to see what plans
      > they have for the special board meeting this month, what methods will they
      > use to try and bring the hilltop community and city council back to the
      > plantation way of life. Just think about what has been given for the reason
      > to move Gompers, "the charter school needs the space". But remember no one
      > give Barbara Alexander charter any space. Nor has anyone taken into account
      > how many students will drop out with this move or how many will not make it
      > to hilltop for classes.
      >
      > As stated before, the major questions have not been addressed about the
      > imprisonment of some of the students at Gompers and other alternative
      > schools. How did the students get there? How are they transition out? How
      > many students dropout? How many return to regular schools, receive support
      > services, drop out of regular school or return to alternative schools? A
      > few questions that should have been addressed before the consolidation was
      > approved. Now they wish to backtrack and do what? Well, I will be willing to
      > bet that the overseerers will have their three votes lined up and some will
      > pretend they are with the community, knowing all the time that the method
      > they are using is "good cop" vs. "bad cop" and at the end of the show they
      > get what they want and the community is confused. Look at the administration
      > appointments last night that was agenda without so much as a word about site
      > supervisors, but wait, Captian Ramsey asked, when will we let the site
      > supervisors know about their jobs, and the great lawyer gave some date in
      > the future. Now the union will go away, and business will continue as usual.
      > It is my believe that there should not have been any appointments downtown
      > until all site employees were rehired, to appoint administrators downtown
      > tells me or anyone else the priorities of the district and it does not
      > appear to be student centered. What I believe is happening is another layer
      > of administrators to buffer GJ and continue the creation of the myth.
      >
      >
      > If you all think that the motivation is somewhat suspect now, just wait.
      > But wait, I forgot, Captian Ramsey did come off like a "good cop" on the
      > rebuilding of El Cerrito and the amount of space. By the way, how is the
      > redistricting coming, will there be new lines for EC? "I am just sitting
      > here watching the wheels go round and round".
      >
      >
      >
      > Scottie Smith
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > -------------- Original message from "Kevin Rivard" : --------------
      > > Charley,
      > >
      > > Given our initial beginnings, yours and mine personally, head butting
      > like
      > > the mountain goats who refuse to listen to each other and simply step
      > aside
      > > and let each other pass more from me than you, I would like to say I
      > am
      > > seeing more likeness in our thinking. I have a lot more to say about
      > all
      > > this NEW way of community giving but am formulating a slow and more
      > > thoughtful reaction rather than my usual off the cuff, shoot from the
      > hip,
      > > pi---- off, reaction.
      > >
      > > I am pleased to see, with your usual style of thoughtful criticism,
      > that you
      > > are seeing the same types of plotting that I have seen over the years
      > from
      > > the leadership of this district. Lynn and I have often wondered, why
      > with
      > > all the changes in the leadership of this district, why the same type
      > of
      > > arrogance exists against the community and parents of our students in
      > this
      > > district. I believe your analysis below gives a real understanding of
      > what
      > > is going on and to me you are starting to sound like Scottie, Marsha
      > and me,
      > > which means if you keep this type of "rhetoric" up you too will soon
      > be on
      > > the receiving end of the nastiness that comes from the leadership of
      > this
      > > district and will be labeled as a "nay-sayer" who never has anything
      > > positive to say and therefore should be shunned by anyone who really
      > cares
      > > about the children.
      > >
      > > Charlie, I welcome you to what I believe is the enlightened side, of
      > how
      > > business is conducted by the power grid in this district. Just look at
      > the
      > > most recent egregious acts of this district, the Vista Hills Gompers
      > and
      > > North Campus situation and how this district has thumbed there
      > collective
      > > noses at the community and the City of Richmond City Council even up
      > to last
      > > nights School Board Meeting, with a staement from Ramsey that another
      > > meeting will be held to tell the community how the process works.
      > >
      > > I went on longer than I had intended Charley, but I have been watching
      > this
      > > tree for the last few days and musing that maybe, just maybe people
      > are
      > > starting to really get what Scottie, Marsha and I have been saying
      > over the
      > > past 20 years.
      > >
      > > Kevin
      > >
      > >
      > > >From: "c_cowens"
      > > >Reply-To: wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.com
      > > >To: wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.com
      > > >Subject: [wccusdtalk] Re: High School Reform
      > > >Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 07:08:48 -0000
      > > >
      > > >Marilyn-
      > > >
      > > >Yes, what you say is true, but I also think there is room for
      > > >businesses to do the old-fashoined kind of good-deed giving at an
      > even
      > > >higher level. The problem is with a possible change in the nature of
      > > >the giving that the new "Biz" fund is a harbinger of. At the first
      > > >level, there is pooling and a more government grant-making approach.
      > > >Pooling might sound good, but it can also crowd out independent
      > > >projects as the Biz fund informally becomes the only place to give.
      > > >The grant-making approach means stressing "results" that mean
      > > >something to gj and the business types in the Biz fund but not
      > > >necessarily to people in the schools. At the next level, giving
      > > >becomes a way of buying influence either through the Biz fund
      > becoming
      > > >a significant source of input for general policy-making because of
      > the
      > > >money they are bringing in or through explicit quid pro quos in
      > > >specific grants along the lines of: We'll give you this extra dollar,
      > > >if you'll spend this $100 of taxpayers' money you already have the
      > way
      > > >we want.
      > > >
      > > >Charley Cowens
      > > >
      > > >--- In wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.com, Marilyn Langlois
      > > > wrote:
      > > > > Thanks to everyone for your comments on the high school reform
      > issue.
      > > > >
      > > > > It's wonderful to know that local businesses are taking an
      > interest in
      > > > > supporting our schools. I would suggest that the best way for them
      > > >to do so
      > > > > is by doing the kinds of things that businesses are best able to
      > do:
      > > > >
      > > > > --willingly pay their fair share of taxes to support the public
      > good
      > > > > (including education)
      > > > >
      > > > > --provide decent jobs for all of their employees, including young
      > people
      > > > > emerging from the public education system
      > > > >
      > > > > --provide additional job-specific training to their employees as
      > > >necessary
      > > > >
      > > > > --provide high quality goods and services to the community
      > (including
      > > > > students, parents, school employees) at reasonable rates.
      > > > >
      > > > > Businesspeople are not pedagogues, even if they happen to have
      > > >school-age
      > > > > children. They are also not grassroots, unless they belong to
      > truly
      > > > > grassroots organizations or movements.
      > > > >
      > > > > Thus, if you want to involve the grassroots in making sound
      > pedagogical
      > > > > recommendations about high school reform, any "Blue Ribbon
      > Commission"
      > > > > should include:
      > > > >
      > > > > --representatives of grassroots organizations concerned with
      > education:
      > > > > these should include long-standing, well-recognized ones such as
      > > >PTA, NAACP,
      > > > > League of Women Voters, CCISCO, ACORN, etc. as well as some
      > locally
      > > >grown
      > > > > ones such as West County Parents, Pinole CARE, March4Education,
      > etc.
      > > > >
      > > > > --first-rate pedagogues who are widely recognized as experts in
      > the
      > > >field of
      > > > > education, such as Linda Darling-Hammond, Deborah Meier, etc.
      > > > >
      > > > > --prominent local educators like Melita Sims-Agbabiaka of the
      > > >temporarily
      > > > > defunct Barbara Alexander Academy, who is still making valiant
      > > >efforts to
      > > > > create a space to educate those high school students who fall
      > > >through the
      > > > > cracks and become invisible until they wind up in prison or die.
      > > > >
      > > > > Looking forward to following this discussion--
      > > > > Marilyn
      > > >
      > >
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