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    I agree with Todd, not every teacher with seniority is highly qualified, in fact, some have been so use to teaching a certain way or to a certain group, that
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      I agree with Todd, not every teacher with seniority is highly qualified, in
      fact, some have been so use to teaching a certain way or to a certain group,
      that they fail to understand the needs, culture, development and environment of
      the students, thereby, unable to relate in a way that improves education of all
       Scottie Smith

      From: c slamon <cslamon@...>
      To: wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 12:20:53 PM
      Subject: Re: [wccusdtalk] Re: Education Report: Federal appeals court rules that
      intern teachers aren't highly qualified

        Todd, Here is the same information from SFGATE.  I find it interesting
      that this ruling favors low income families from Richmond, Hayward and Los
      Angeles.  To have Richmond named specifically should be a huge warning to
      our school district that we need to change the way that teachers are
      assigned to our schools.  Do you really think it fair that all the so called
      "hill schools" have the most senior teachers? As a Richmond resident who has
      been fortunate enough to be assigned to schools located in El Cerrito, I
      feel very lucky and blessed that we have had some of the very most senior
      and qualified teachers in our district, but I do not in any way condone this
      or think that it's fair to the Richmond kids.  This issue affects thousands
      more students in our district than the GATE issues and lack of
      differentiated instruction for the high achieving students.  That was my
      only motivation in sharing this article so that people can be aware of what
      is happening in our district and our state.  Also, so they can start asking
      these important questions of our administators, "How many teachers in this
      school are credentialed?  How many intern teachers does this school have?

      Chris Slamon

      Court finds Calif dumping interns on poor schools

      By MARCUS WOHLSEN, Associated Press Writer
      Associated Press September 28, 2010 07:05 PM Copyright Associated Press. All
      rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or

      Tuesday, September 28, 2010
      (09-28) 19:05 PDT San Francisco, CA (AP) --

      A federal appeals court has ruled that California illegally classified
      interns as "highly qualified" teachers and assigned them to schools in
      low-income and minority areas.

      The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled Monday in favor of low-income
      families from Richmond, Hayward and Los Angeles who claimed the state was
      dumping uncredentialed teachers on their schools.

      A Bush administration policy adopted by a California commission held that
      interns on track to receive teaching certification could count as "highly

      The court found that those policies violated the federal No Child Left
      Behind law, which requires teachers have full state certification to teach
      core subjects.

      "This is a tremendous victory for the millions of students across the
      country that are disproportionately taught every day by teachers with very
      little training," said John Affeldt, managing attorney at Public Advocates
      Inc., a public interest group representing the plaintiffs.

      Here is the link to the entire story

      On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Todd Groves <tag1022@...> wrote:

      > Am I supposed to believe the designation or my lying eyes? Does "highly
      > qualifiied" mean some is able to connect with kids? Not from my
      > observations. The NCLB definition of HQ is: Highly Qualified Teachers: To be
      > deemed highly qualified, teachers must have: 1) a bachelor's degree, 2) full
      > state certification or licensure, and 3) prove that they know each subject
      > they teach.
      > I've been seeing a frightening number of fully credentialed teachers who
      > don't have mastery of the subjects they teach, especially math and science.
      > At the other end, we also have some very experienced and trained teachers
      > that can't reach kids in the classroom. Yet, under the definition, they both
      > will be highly qualified. Codifying something so intangible is not something
      > the Code of Federal Regulations does well.
      > Our methods of determining teacher effectiveness are in themselves
      > ineffective. The policy-making in this area is so politicized it may never
      > bear fruit. So when a federal judge rules on a definition in code, it
      > doesn't have much bearing in real life. Would you want the federal
      > definition of "reasonable woman" (used in discrimination issues) applied to
      > women in reality? I think not.
      > We need to acknowledge what's working and what isn't. The difference in a
      > high learning classroom and others is visible from the doorway. How do we
      > distill it into a form of evaluation?
      > Also, we could use more paths of entry into the classroom. We need people
      > who 1) understand material deeply 2) can transmit understanding to their
      > students. A major reason students don't learn math is that most adults
      > haven't mastered it, and cannot guide student understanding. The traditional
      > pathways to the classroom aren't sufficient. One could make an argument for
      > more stringency rather than loosening standards, but would it be workable?
      > In this age "standards," we need people with deep subject mastery. We are
      > more programming than educating this point. WCCUSD devastated the 1st
      > generation under NCLB by following federal guidance. Where teachers
      > previously had flexibility to patch learning holes, the district put it's
      > trust in the omniscience of the curriculum we bought. Students carried
      > forward without real understanding. You are seeing the results in our high
      > school juniors and sophomores, the first classes completely under NCLB. They
      > have HUGE knowledge gaps in many subjects, especially math and science.
      > Todd Groves
      > Treasurer, Freeman for School Board 2010, although I am speaking solely for
      > myself as a 14 year parent volunteer. I don't want to be accused of
      > surreptitious campaigning, but it is vital for WCCUSD to engage in deep
      > dialogue on these topics.
      > --- In wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.com <wccusdtalk%40yahoogroups.com>, c slamon
      > <cslamon@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > Education Report: Federal appeals court rules that intern teachers aren't
      > > highly qualified
      > > By Katy Murphy
      > > Oakland Tribune <kmurphy@...?subject=ContraCostaTimes.com:
      > > Education Report: Federal appeals court rules that intern teachers aren't
      > > highly qualified>
      > > Posted: 09/28/2010 01:47:51 PM PDT
      > >
      > > This is a sampling of The Education Report, Katy Murphy's Oakland
      > > schools blog. Read more at www.ibabuzz.com/education. Follow her at
      > > Twitter.com/katymurphy <http://twitter.com/katymurphy>.
      > >
      > > Sept. 27
      > >
      > > The new Teach for America or Oakland Teaching Fellows teacher at your
      > school
      > > may be stellar, but a federal appeals court has ruled today that she
      > > shouldn't be deemed "highly qualified" under the No Child Left Behind
      > Act.
      > >
      > > The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals reversed its earlier decision and
      > ruled
      > > 2-1 in favor of community groups, which sued the U.S. Department of
      > > Education in 2007. The plaintiffs argued it was misleading to call
      > > California's intern teachers -- those who are placed straight into the
      > > classroom with little formal teacher training and pursue their full
      > > credential as they teach -- highly qualified.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Here is the link to the entire story:
      > > http://www.contracostatimes.com/education/ci_16196942
      > >
      > >
      > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      > >


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