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  • Norma J F Harrison
    ...arguing about (talking about , evaluating , agreeing, disagreeing) arguing about comparative value of a person s work fits into the capitalist system, which
    Message 1 of 13 , Aug 17, 2010
      ...arguing about (talking about , evaluating , agreeing, disagreeing) arguing
      about comparative value of a person's work fits into the capitalist system,
      which with much evidence, is what is murdering us all including Earth as we knew
      Administration, from the local small business to the running of the country is
      all about separation: who shall survive; who will live with so much materially
      they can never touch it all in their lifetimes; who shall starve to death or die
      of lack of health care; who shall be bombed; what plants and other animals will
      be destroyed in capitalism's march across the world.
      These are all administered by our Owners and their electeds.
      Don't abet that - at least, not by your ideas.  Think differently.  Hate the
      horror makers.  That's a start - instead of accepting them.


      From: Eduardo Martinez ezedmartin@... To: wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.com Sent:
      Tue, August 17, 2010 12:38:14 PM
      Subject: Re: [wccusdtalk] Re: Can you say TOP heavy management?

      This is the same phenomenon happening in the classroom.  More and more
      responsibilities are piled on teachers when they already have more to do than is

      physically possible.  Then certain individuals try to make others think that
      teachers have it easy.
      As the parent of armies, war encourages debts and taxes, the known instruments
      for bringing the many under the domination of the few.  - James Madison
      From: c slamon <cslamon@...>    To: wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue,
      August 17, 2010 10:49:18 AM Subject: Re: [wccusdtalk] Re: Can you say TOP heavy

      thanks for the clarification, sorry I didn't get your point the first time.
      I have a better understanding now.  I don't think our district is top
      heavy.  In fact I think we are starting to see more things fall through the
      cracks because of the way jobs have been combined etc.  That is also what
      happens in the business world too.  Sometimes the work load is so heavy that
      instead of doing the perfect work one is capable of, you strive to just get
      it all done adequately.  That happens to me all the time.

      On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Todd Groves <tag1022@...> wrote:

      >>> Yes, Chris. That's the point I attempted to make. Many corporations see
      > differences between 200-300x lowest and highest salaries, not the 10x we see
      > in the district. I know many people who earn what our top administrators
      > earn for doing things with far fewer social consequences, say, perhaps,
      > creating catalogs or websites.
      > Is the district really top heavy? I really would not know how to measure
      > it. Living in this area, those of us not pulling down Silicon Valley
      > salaries feel pressure to do so. Some of us thrive on incomes skirting the
      > poverty level. Most people working to develop children could make more money
      > in other careers. It's not about the money.
      > My biggest grievance with administration isn't salary, rather its role. Has
      > anyone read the MGT audit of instruction? Most of the points it finds have
      > been voiced time and again in this district over the past decade. Open Court
      > implementation was heavy handed...Do tell! Why do we have to pay consultants
      > for management intelligence that should be woven into the fabric of our
      > administration. A random survey of teachers and parents would have yielded
      > similar results. The report describes instructional management as very
      > dysfunctional.
      > We aren't top heavy if the investment has proportionate returns. Are we
      > getting our monies' worth? I would argue no.
      > Todd Groves
      > --- In wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.com <wccusdtalk%40yahoogroups.com>, c slamon
      > <cslamon@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > Todd, I do think the salary discrepancies that you say don't exist in the
      > > private sector do exist, they just don't get reported. It exists in

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