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  • Kevin Rivard
    Tammy, I do not know why but I can no longer get on this list so I am adding your e-mail directly in hopes you will get this. First I commend you for your
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      Tammy,

      I do not know why but I can no longer get on this list so I am adding your e-mail directly in hopes you will get this.

      First I commend you for your stick-to-it attitude and I know your children and many other children have benefited from your efforts and I also know in some ways your kids and your family have suffered from your efforts. I know because my kids have said to me they missed out on a lot of things because we fought this district the same as you have.

      But in your post below I see that you have possibly come to the same realization that Lynn and I have, that it is not necessarily the Districts fault, as much as it is the peoples fault for lack of knowledge and or lack of collective action.

      This nation has now borrowed against our children's and grandchildren's future to a tune of $2,000,000,000,000, that is 2 trillion dollars, from foreign entities that now control our future and the common person accepted it with GLEE. This is because, in my opinion, we have become a nation of ignorant people who would rather sit at home and participate in, who is to become the next American Idol, than to go to our School Board meetings, Town Council meetings, Boy or Girl Scout meetings, Boys and Girls Club meetings, Church functions or any other community function and make our community better for ourselves and our kids. We have now become the Socialists that our Grandparents and Great Grandparents fought against in WWI and WWII. We have now become the country that many of our legal immigrants ran from. We are now slaves to our Government and must do their bidding, in the hope that our government will give us the crumbs left over, after our Government pays off their political supporters.

      Tammy, it is sad to me to see such a fine person as yourself, who for many years tried to see the good side of things and who told me so many times to stop being so negative, to now have finally ended one of your own posts with, TIME TO REVOLT. Tammy, when a person who always tried to be upbeat against all the negativity surrounding her, now seemingly, has thrown in the towel, I am now truly scared for our children.

      I know we have disagreed, sometimes vehemently. I know of few other people that I can say I truly admire and respect for their character and honesty as I do you. Your family and community should be very proud of you and the ideals you hold to.

      I do not if there is any sense to my post Tammy, but I just wanted you to know I was thinking of the good times and small victories Lynn and I shared with you along the way and wanted you to know I appreciate all you have done.

      Kevin




      To: wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.comFrom: tammeracampbell@...: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:29:52 -0800Subject: Re: [wccusdtalk] Re: Board vote



      Laura,I commend you for becoming more educated on the issues. And yes, it is a damn shame that others did not. This is exactly why are school districts in California are the why they are, because people don't take it seriously enough to become educated. Ironic isn't it that we ask our children to get an education and we adults don't take the time to truly understand the big financial picture in this state.As for the amount targeted for Measure D, it was a highly debated and thought out decision. The public would not have passed the measure because remember they are not educated on the facts. You yourself found it annoying when committee members did not come in as informed as you. This is the nature of people. Do you honestly think that people would have taxed themselves more? The fact that you saw the numbers and were alarmed and scared, but others did not at the many public meetings I attended, only confirms that they would have never renewed Measure D for more money.We should be thankful that Measure D passed. That money has been earmarked for programs that directly support the kids. These programs cannot be taken away by the state or the feds when they continue to reduce the funding, unless the state decides to axe small class sizes. If the state does this, then this district cannot support small class sizes. It would be impossible. The only way that educational funding will be changed in this state and in this nation is when people begin marching in the streets as was done during the civil rights movement and the vietnam war. There must be a revolution and unrest before people pull their heads out of the sand and care about these kids. Were pathetic as a nation when we spend more money rebuilding Iraq than educating our kids.Tammy CampbellTIME TO REVOLT!!!!!--- On Thu, 2/12/09, Ramosla@... <Ramosla@...> wrote:> From: Ramosla@... <Ramosla@...>> Subject: Re: [wccusdtalk] Re: Board vote> To: wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 11:26 PM> I agree with you about the process stinking, and that as a> Committee Member I felt that at best it was lip service.?> And very few of the Committee members that I know of were> prepared, which annoyed me to no end.? I spent the better> part of December tracking down information on the schools on> each of the lists, their stats, parent involvement,> location, and seismic issues.? I went out and got some maps> so that I could plot out the locations of the schools on> each list so I could figure the geographically equity.? Then> to show up to the Meeting with very few prepared floored me,> I took this seriously and felt cheated that others> didn't feel the same.? Plus, these talks should have> happened last year.?? I went to the budget meeting in Feb> '08 and saw the numbers and questioned Harter afterwards> as to why they were only going for the renewal and not> talking to the community about the bigger picture and he> stated that they were afraid that they would get nothing> which would be a lot worse than just getting a little> something.? Agh!> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----> From: rogerf85 <rogerf85@...>> To: wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 8:14 am> Subject: [wccusdtalk] Re: Board vote> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I used to work for WCCUSD and know how much Pinole worked> for and with the schools. I > > also know they put a lot of money over the years to support> their schools.> > > > My point was, what was the circus about and why was Shannon> on the list in the first > > place if board members could just change the outcome at the> last minute. It was "just a > > thought" in that Ramsey out of the blue remembered the> support provided by Pinole and > > said, "oh yeah, hm. Let's take it off the> list."> > > > As you see, the district has succeeded in pitting city> against city. Richmond's support was > > tremendous over the years as well in the form of SRO> officers, after-school programs and > > other. Cities contribute according to their schools'> needs.> > > > I belong to the group that believes this whole process was> an unnecessary joke. They > > could have gone about school closures in completely> different, more respectful manner. > > But then, when did the district respect its constituents?> > > > Thank you.> > > > --- In wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.com, Ramosla@... wrote:> > >> > > > > > It seems like very few know about the way the Pinole> City Council has supported its > > students and schools.? Pinole has created a partnership> with the District that only now > > seems like a new idea when it comes from a different City.?> And when we did invest in our > > schools, it didn't have the negative ramifications> unlike the Richmond's investment which > > now pits City against City.? Should the District be called> Richmond Unified rather than > > West Contra County Unified?? Just a thought.> > > > > > Laura> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----> > > From: Maureen Toms <maureen.toms@...>> > > To: wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 7:13 am> > > Subject: RE: [wccusdtalk] Board vote> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Removal of Shannon was not just a "thought he> presented today". Mr. Ramsey> > > > > > discussed last week and it was also discussed at the> Pinole area meeting.> > > > > > Pinole area schools already had a closure a few years> ago (Seaview).> > > > > > Seaview was closed at a time when El Sobrante and> Fairmont also had low> > > > > > enrollments, but were spared. To have closed another> Pinole area school> > > > > > would have resulted in two closures in that community> is only a few years.> > > > > > Many Shannon students come from the former Seaview> attendance area and would> > > > > > have to be transferred a second time in their K-6> years. > > > > > > > > > > > > On the Richmond question, please realize that Pinole> has been stepping up to> > > > > > the plate to the tune of over $5 million over the last> several years. Those> > > > > > contributions have allowed for bond funds to be spent> elsewhere in the> > > > > > district. > > > > > > > > > > > > Maureen> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----> > > > > > From: wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.com] On> > > > > > Behalf Of rogerf85> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:10 PM> > > > > > To: wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Subject: [wccusdtalk] Board vote> > > > > > > > > > > > Four to one with Thurmond voting "no". Our> new hero.> > > > > > > > > > > > What's the use of all the community meetings to> reach a decision when Ramsey> > > > > > > > > > > > singlehandedly moves Shannon to the deferral list?> Just like that, based on> > > > > > a thought he > > > > > > presented today.> > > > > > > > > > > > And how does the city of Richmond feel about this now,> after they already> > > > > > committed their > > > > > > funds?> > > > > > > > > > > > Thurmond asked that certain questions be addressed and> issues reviewed due> > > > > > to the > > > > > > seriousness of the decision about school closure. At> least one board member> > > > > > realizes how > > > > > > hasty the decision was and how messed up the process.> > > > > > > > > > > > This is a circus, without clowns.> > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






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