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  • Waqqas Dadabhoy
    If anyone knows of any websites/forum threads/groups about waste, could you please post them here? We re trying to clean things up, and would like that we move
    Message 1 of 13 , Apr 9, 2007
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      If anyone knows of any websites/forum threads/groups about waste,
      could you please post them here? We're trying to clean things up, and
      would like that we move towards a more unified network. Developers
      are welcome too.
    • Dan
      I m still part of a WASTE network group and run a webserver/WASTEsrv right now I m having server problems but he usual URL is http://wkclx.net/ or
      Message 2 of 13 , Apr 11, 2007
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        I'm still part of a WASTE network group and run a webserver/WASTEsrv
        right now I'm having server problems but he usual URL is
        http://wkclx.net/ or http://waste.wkclx.net/ for the forums and the
        default port if your trying to connect to WASTE specifically.

        --- In waste-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Waqqas Dadabhoy" <waqqasd@...>
        wrote:
        >
        > If anyone knows of any websites/forum threads/groups about waste,
        > could you please post them here? We're trying to clean things up, and
        > would like that we move towards a more unified network. Developers
        > are welcome too.
        >
      • gratemyl
        ... Hi! My public key: WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 gnet-srv-001 C76004FABCC40461BD5120B3583E0E69C9F311202F8CC13E60CF9E01A2F1
        Message 3 of 13 , Apr 21, 2007
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          --- In waste-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Waqqas Dadabhoy" <waqqasd@...>
          wrote:
          >
          > If anyone knows of any websites/forum threads/groups about waste,
          > could you please post them here? We're trying to clean things up, and
          > would like that we move towards a more unified network. Developers
          > are welcome too.
          >

          Hi!

          My public key:

          WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 gnet-srv-001
          C76004FABCC40461BD5120B3583E0E69C9F311202F8CC13E60CF9E01A2F1
          B9666F9D03A3D88D935B80222B1B40DC953C2E4AC041A14EAF641A857CDE
          1FC0E6258ABDA51DBB63446FCD2A1D2A1D95F170EC9128C86B623928555B
          EE3D3A22DA6CCE80FF28E2797E42803DE51986AA411688BEE9ED1E778922
          C2F3110CCA877A6A86DA57715FF697F82A479F50C9A26080E5554A6265BC
          58EC14446D49D8DB19B25FD5E5BF7C1BF767097D736F1BBC3E75BCDEE648
          1433DCD259B9571474D4441B0003010001
          WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END

          Host: gnet-group.com
          IP: 85.214.37.48

          This will be a pretty stable host, and I might be able to provide more
          in the future.

          I think, the way WASTE is currently made, it can be difficult to get
          more users - all the key stuff is too difficult for some users.

          Maybe we could have an alternate waste without keys, or with default keys?

          Anyway, post your keys and I'll add them to that server.
        • Michael Rogers
          ... Agreed - it should be possible to exchange just the key fingerprint instead of the whole key. When you connect to the peer you can download the key and
          Message 4 of 13 , Apr 21, 2007
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            gratemyl wrote:
            > I think, the way WASTE is currently made, it can be difficult to get
            > more users - all the key stuff is too difficult for some users.

            Agreed - it should be possible to exchange just the key fingerprint
            instead of the whole key. When you connect to the peer you can download
            the key and check it matches the fingerprint before proceeding.

            > Maybe we could have an alternate waste without keys, or with default keys?

            Not sure I agree with this - default keys would harm security, but it's
            possible to be secure without intimidating new users.

            It would be useful if the software displayed a short string containing
            the IP address, port and key fingerprint - something like
            123.45.67.8:1234/jdhfg3q247ogk43ugi3qgb984h - that would contain
            everything your friends needed to connect to your peer.

            Cheers,
            Michael
          • sinoth
            Add me please: Public key: WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 2048 sinoth AC12AA6CACB7A7600936EC0FA9588491ECD7F484E7D835A3AB463CA01BE8
            Message 5 of 13 , Apr 23, 2007
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              Add me please:

              Public key:
              WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 2048 sinoth
              AC12AA6CACB7A7600936EC0FA9588491ECD7F484E7D835A3AB463CA01BE8
              50E7C5089D38B646F02C76C505A5B861FA8CBF0901E2B119812DA33A2782
              435EDB2641E520C3C02144006A1F1489A40FE0AE696C844A0C3E7D999447
              F7C00DDC1BF074DC035C38FAC3549E5C56F319171BE382602614D9012B88
              8D595611D58ED34711BD3B5DAB65E8884159CD1DBF64BEB963872C4703ED
              D437597D74F927AAF0E045ADFEEE0926848F2BE0EBF02DC0BEDFE5AA9DEA
              E3D842E7B19159D2D1F22CE9B0B5E7B9CBC3C7BD20B6893F50EFC0DC17A1
              B001A5C77C67C0EE0E1CD15D329D38A1802E6378B0602D429FC8F6A76365
              6340A4D59A0C810980A9655B908B8FD30003010001
              WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END


              Host: sinoth.dyndns.org

              Also, which version is everyone using? The last 1.5 beta, or the
              unofficial 1.6?

              --- In waste-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "gratemyl" <gratemyl@...> wrote:
              >
              > --- In waste-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Waqqas Dadabhoy" <waqqasd@>
              > wrote:
              > >
              > > If anyone knows of any websites/forum threads/groups about waste,
              > > could you please post them here? We're trying to clean things up, and
              > > would like that we move towards a more unified network. Developers
              > > are welcome too.
              > >
              >
              > Hi!
              >
              > My public key:
              >
              > WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 gnet-srv-001
              > C76004FABCC40461BD5120B3583E0E69C9F311202F8CC13E60CF9E01A2F1
              > B9666F9D03A3D88D935B80222B1B40DC953C2E4AC041A14EAF641A857CDE
              > 1FC0E6258ABDA51DBB63446FCD2A1D2A1D95F170EC9128C86B623928555B
              > EE3D3A22DA6CCE80FF28E2797E42803DE51986AA411688BEE9ED1E778922
              > C2F3110CCA877A6A86DA57715FF697F82A479F50C9A26080E5554A6265BC
              > 58EC14446D49D8DB19B25FD5E5BF7C1BF767097D736F1BBC3E75BCDEE648
              > 1433DCD259B9571474D4441B0003010001
              > WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END
              >
              > Host: gnet-group.com
              > IP: 85.214.37.48
              >
              > This will be a pretty stable host, and I might be able to provide more
              > in the future.
              >
              > I think, the way WASTE is currently made, it can be difficult to get
              > more users - all the key stuff is too difficult for some users.
              >
              > Maybe we could have an alternate waste without keys, or with default
              keys?
              >
              > Anyway, post your keys and I'll add them to that server.
              >
            • Allclone
              I think most every one is using 1.6 for a GUI, there are still a few 1.5sthat use the command line versions for running as services and such. ... -- a.k.a.
              Message 6 of 13 , Apr 23, 2007
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                I think most every one is using 1.6 for a GUI, there are still a few 1.5s that use the command line versions for running as services and such.

                On 4/23/07, sinoth <sinoth@...> wrote:

                Add me please:

                Public key:
                WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 2048 sinoth
                AC12AA6CACB7A7600936EC0FA9588491ECD7F484E7D835A3AB463CA01BE8
                50E7C5089D38B646F02C76C505A5B861FA8CBF0901E2B119812DA33A2782
                435EDB2641E520C3C02144006A1F1489A40FE0AE696C844A0C3E7D999447
                F7C00DDC1BF074DC035C38FAC3549E5C56F319171BE382602614D9012B88
                8D595611D58ED34711BD3B5DAB65E8884159CD1DBF64BEB963872C4703ED
                D437597D74F927AAF0E045ADFEEE0926848F2BE0EBF02DC0BEDFE5AA9DEA
                E3D842E7B19159D2D1F22CE9B0B5E7B9CBC3C7BD20B6893F50EFC0DC17A1
                B001A5C77C67C0EE0E1CD15D329D38A1802E6378B0602D429FC8F6A76365
                6340A4D59A0C810980A9655B908B8FD30003010001
                WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END

                Host: sinoth.dyndns.org

                Also, which version is everyone using? The last 1.5 beta, or the
                unofficial 1.6?



                --- In waste-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "gratemyl" <gratemyl@...> wrote:
                >
                > --- In waste-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Waqqas Dadabhoy" <waqqasd@>
                > wrote:
                > >
                > > If anyone knows of any websites/forum threads/groups about waste,
                > > could you please post them here? We're trying to clean things up, and
                > > would like that we move towards a more unified network. Developers
                > > are welcome too.
                > >
                >
                > Hi!
                >
                > My public key:
                >
                > WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 gnet-srv-001
                > C76004FABCC40461BD5120B3583E0E69C9F311202F8CC13E60CF9E01A2F1
                > B9666F9D03A3D88D935B80222B1B40DC953C2E4AC041A14EAF641A857CDE
                > 1FC0E6258ABDA51DBB63446FCD2A1D2A1D95F170EC9128C86B623928555B
                > EE3D3A22DA6CCE80FF28E2797E42803DE51986AA411688BEE9ED1E778922
                > C2F3110CCA877A6A86DA57715FF697F82A479F50C9A26080E5554A6265BC
                > 58EC14446D49D8DB19B25FD5E5BF7C1BF767097D736F1BBC3E75BCDEE648
                > 1433DCD259B9571474D4441B0003010001
                > WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END
                >
                > Host: gnet-group.com
                > IP: 85.214.37.48
                >
                > This will be a pretty stable host, and I might be able to provide more
                > in the future.
                >
                > I think, the way WASTE is currently made, it can be difficult to get
                > more users - all the key stuff is too difficult for some users.
                >
                > Maybe we could have an alternate waste without keys, or with default
                keys?
                >
                > Anyway, post your keys and I'll add them to that server.
                >




                --
                a.k.a. GrayB0X
                AIM SN:allclone
              • inquisition_satanas
                ... keys? ... so what is the default key (public+private) ?
                Message 7 of 13 , May 2, 2007
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                  --- In waste-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "gratemyl" <gratemyl@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > --- In waste-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Waqqas Dadabhoy" <waqqasd@>
                  > wrote:
                  > >
                  > > If anyone knows of any websites/forum threads/groups about waste,
                  > > could you please post them here? We're trying to clean things up, and
                  > > would like that we move towards a more unified network. Developers
                  > > are welcome too.
                  > >
                  >
                  > Hi!
                  >
                  > My public key:
                  >
                  > WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 gnet-srv-001
                  > C76004FABCC40461BD5120B3583E0E69C9F311202F8CC13E60CF9E01A2F1
                  > B9666F9D03A3D88D935B80222B1B40DC953C2E4AC041A14EAF641A857CDE
                  > 1FC0E6258ABDA51DBB63446FCD2A1D2A1D95F170EC9128C86B623928555B
                  > EE3D3A22DA6CCE80FF28E2797E42803DE51986AA411688BEE9ED1E778922
                  > C2F3110CCA877A6A86DA57715FF697F82A479F50C9A26080E5554A6265BC
                  > 58EC14446D49D8DB19B25FD5E5BF7C1BF767097D736F1BBC3E75BCDEE648
                  > 1433DCD259B9571474D4441B0003010001
                  > WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END
                  >
                  > Host: gnet-group.com
                  > IP: 85.214.37.48
                  >
                  > This will be a pretty stable host, and I might be able to provide more
                  > in the future.
                  >
                  > I think, the way WASTE is currently made, it can be difficult to get
                  > more users - all the key stuff is too difficult for some users.
                  >
                  > Maybe we could have an alternate waste without keys, or with default
                  keys?
                  >
                  > Anyway, post your keys and I'll add them to that server.
                  >

                  so what is the default key (public+private) ?
                • katzentierdersonne
                  ... up, and ... Copy the public key from HERE, and add it to your WASTE. Then, post YOUR own public key HERE. After you got added, you can connect. I hope I
                  Message 8 of 13 , May 3, 2007
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                    --- In waste-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "inquisition_satanas"
                    <inquisition_satanas@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > --- In waste-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "gratemyl" <gratemyl@> wrote:
                    > >
                    > > --- In waste-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Waqqas Dadabhoy" <waqqasd@>
                    > > wrote:
                    > > >
                    > > > If anyone knows of any websites/forum threads/groups about waste,
                    > > > could you please post them here? We're trying to clean things
                    up, and
                    > > > would like that we move towards a more unified network. Developers
                    > > > are welcome too.
                    > > >
                    > >
                    > > Hi!
                    > >
                    > > My public key:
                    > >
                    > > WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 gnet-srv-001
                    > > C76004FABCC40461BD5120B3583E0E69C9F311202F8CC13E60CF9E01A2F1
                    > > B9666F9D03A3D88D935B80222B1B40DC953C2E4AC041A14EAF641A857CDE
                    > > 1FC0E6258ABDA51DBB63446FCD2A1D2A1D95F170EC9128C86B623928555B
                    > > EE3D3A22DA6CCE80FF28E2797E42803DE51986AA411688BEE9ED1E778922
                    > > C2F3110CCA877A6A86DA57715FF697F82A479F50C9A26080E5554A6265BC
                    > > 58EC14446D49D8DB19B25FD5E5BF7C1BF767097D736F1BBC3E75BCDEE648
                    > > 1433DCD259B9571474D4441B0003010001
                    > > WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END
                    > >
                    > > Host: gnet-group.com
                    > > IP: 85.214.37.48
                    > >
                    > > This will be a pretty stable host, and I might be able to provide more
                    > > in the future.
                    > >
                    > > I think, the way WASTE is currently made, it can be difficult to get
                    > > more users - all the key stuff is too difficult for some users.
                    > >
                    > > Maybe we could have an alternate waste without keys, or with default
                    > keys?
                    > >
                    > > Anyway, post your keys and I'll add them to that server.
                    > >
                    >
                    > so what is the default key (public+private) ?
                    >

                    Copy the public key from HERE, and add it to your WASTE.

                    Then, post YOUR own public key HERE. After you got added, you can connect.

                    I hope I didn't misunderstand you.

                    PS.: The gnet host is very good, I often use it to connect instantly :)
                  • gratemyl
                    ... default keys? ... I totally agree with that last idea of yours - any developers who could follow up on this possibility? -jerome
                    Message 9 of 13 , May 17, 2007
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                      --- In waste-discuss@yahoogroups.com, Michael Rogers <m.rogers@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > gratemyl wrote:
                      > > I think, the way WASTE is currently made, it can be difficult to get
                      > > more users - all the key stuff is too difficult for some users.
                      >
                      > Agreed - it should be possible to exchange just the key fingerprint
                      > instead of the whole key. When you connect to the peer you can download
                      > the key and check it matches the fingerprint before proceeding.
                      >
                      > > Maybe we could have an alternate waste without keys, or with
                      default keys?
                      >
                      > Not sure I agree with this - default keys would harm security, but it's
                      > possible to be secure without intimidating new users.
                      >
                      > It would be useful if the software displayed a short string containing
                      > the IP address, port and key fingerprint - something like
                      > 123.45.67.8:1234/jdhfg3q247ogk43ugi3qgb984h - that would contain
                      > everything your friends needed to connect to your peer.
                      >
                      > Cheers,
                      > Michael
                      >

                      I totally agree with that last idea of yours - any developers who
                      could follow up on this possibility?

                      -jerome
                    • desmo
                      Public Key : WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 wasted42 A25E5E3F26D4AAD55AC06A9D6140AF32978F8DF5E0F10CDF9C81C9ABFD17
                      Message 10 of 13 , Jul 15 11:07 AM
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                        Public Key :



                        WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 wasted42
                        A25E5E3F26D4AAD55AC06A9D6140AF32978F8DF5E0F10CDF9C81C9ABFD17
                        0CDC867AAF42DBFA1F7CE0EEFAFAD29B35F081EF3CDE94ACD45991012784
                        34C035477289023B863F44FF2047C2FC03F3B704C9E5AA032691F312864D
                        EC6F99E54BA0AA3EF27E89CE3EC7AD21B666F4F8C1A321F011058815DD65
                        97E14FE4D1B8BF599E45A8FA95341623805BA4830CF5C80DF4C68E04C79C
                        89B70E412B7C544561C8FD483F40592A4F9492F2B43670D1BDBAA87F5605
                        E17DCA113A4D0CA82CD874230003010001
                        WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END
                      • thisismyultracoolemailaddress
                        It s an interesting idea - tokenize the keys. Don t some WAP clients do that now? I know my router has a button on it & if I click the button on my router and
                        Message 11 of 13 , Feb 11, 2008
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                          It's an interesting idea - tokenize the keys. Don't some WAP clients
                          do that now? I know my router has a button on it & if I click the
                          button on my router and my PC at the same time, they auto-find each other.

                          The problem that I see is that WASTE is built on Trust and Privacy. If
                          all you needed to connect to a mesh was a token, it would reduce both
                          considerably.

                          The easiest way to get newbies on a mesh is to give them a
                          "boostrapped" WASTE client. By Bootstrapped, I mean it has all the
                          public keys needed to connect to the mesh pre-loaded. They still have
                          to give their public key to someone on the inside, but this is the
                          trust step in action - external confirmation that the person you're
                          connecting to is who they say they are before you accept their key.

                          Then all they need is the address to connect to.

                          1. Get boostrapped client.
                          2. Generate public key / give public key to "server" node.
                          3. Be accepted to the mesh, connect.

                          I believe there's an out of date bootstrapped client here in the Yahoo
                          group - I can update it with the latest key list.

                          --- In waste-discuss@yahoogroups.com, Michael Rogers <m.rogers@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > gratemyl wrote:
                          > > I think, the way WASTE is currently made, it can be difficult to get
                          > > more users - all the key stuff is too difficult for some users.
                          >
                          > Agreed - it should be possible to exchange just the key fingerprint
                          > instead of the whole key. When you connect to the peer you can download
                          > the key and check it matches the fingerprint before proceeding.
                          >
                          > > Maybe we could have an alternate waste without keys, or with
                          default keys?
                          >
                          > Not sure I agree with this - default keys would harm security, but it's
                          > possible to be secure without intimidating new users.
                          >
                          > It would be useful if the software displayed a short string containing
                          > the IP address, port and key fingerprint - something like
                          > 123.45.67.8:1234/jdhfg3q247ogk43ugi3qgb984h - that would contain
                          > everything your friends needed to connect to your peer.
                          >
                          > Cheers,
                          > Michael
                          >
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