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Re: [walesdna] The R-M222 project

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  • Susan Rosine
    I ll go ahead and answer my last question myself--we have no one who matches the Irish Group III in our Wales DNA project. It was easy enough to check and see,
    Message 1 of 3 , May 31, 2009
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      I'll go ahead and answer my last question myself--we have no one who matches the Irish Group III in our Wales DNA project. It was easy enough to check and see, since the markers are distinctive.

      --- On Sun, 5/31/09, Susan Rosine <basenji_luvr@...> wrote:

      From: Susan Rosine <basenji_luvr@...>
      Subject: Re: [walesdna] The R-M222 project
      To: walesdna@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 7:32 PM

      Janet, thanks for posting this info!! This is the SNP (R-M222)  of descendants of Niall of the Nine Hostages, correct?
      We have very few in our Wales project who are M222. It is downstream from L21, so if any of you do the deep clade test for R1b1b2, you will know whether you are L21*, which means you are also negative for M222, or if you are R-M222+. I expect as more men do the deep clade, we'll still get very few M222 results.
      There was another Irish group that does not have its own SNP yet, but has specific identifying markers. It is currently called Irish Group III. I am wondering if there are any men in our Wales project who match that DNA profile? Here is a link to a brand new article all about it!!  
      A Set of Distinctive Marker Values Defines a Y-STR Signature
      for Gaelic Dalcassian Families
      http://www.jogg. info/51/index. html 

      --- On Sun, 5/31/09, ljcrain2 <ljcrain2@pgrb. com> wrote:

      From: ljcrain2 <ljcrain2@pgrb. com>
      Subject: [walesdna] The R-M222 project
      To: walesdna@yahoogroup s.com
      Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 3:46 PM

      The R-M222 branch of the Y-DNA tree is defined by a single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) called M222. This diagnostic marker is associated with many individuals whose roots lie in the counties of Northwest Ireland, Ulster and Lowland Scotland. The shaded footprint in the map at left shows the area where this profile is most often found. In no county is this pattern the dominant DNA profile, but in some counties (Donegal in NW Ireland, for example) it approaches 20 percent.

      The map is intended only to show a population concentration; R-M222 individuals have roots within the oval but are not constrained by it. R-M222 individuals have been found in nearby areas outside the footprint -- in the Western Isles and in Orkney, for example, as well as in the North of England adjacent to the Scottish Border. A very few individuals have been found in Iceland, Norway and Germany.
       is open to all individuals who have a derived (i.e., positive) test result on the M222 SNP. The project also welcomes individuals who have not been SNP tested, but whose haplotypes show most of the following values:

      DYS390 = 25
      DYS385b = 13
      DYS392 = 14
      DYS448 = 18
      DYS449 = 30
      DYS464 = 15-16-16-17
      DSY456 = 17
      DYS607 = 16
      DYS413 = 21-23
      DYS534 = 16
      DYS481 = 25 (FTDNA convention; = 24 EthnoAncestry convention)*
      DYS714 = 24

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