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Wales DNA - Haplotype information

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  • Michael Walsh
    Sorry, forgot to include this. Here are my Y DNA results: HG: R1b (M343) ID kit #s: FTDNA-N54638 YSearch-RXYKH Ybase-MZWL7 DYS: 393 = 13 / 19 = 15
    Message 1 of 1 , Jan 2, 2008
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      Sorry, forgot to include this.   Here are my Y DNA results:
      HG:  R1b (M343)         ID kit #s: FTDNA-N54638   YSearch-RXYKH   Ybase-MZWL7       
      DYS: 393 = 13 / 19 = 15 / 391 = 12 / 439 = 12 / 389-1 = 14 / 389-2 = 16 / 388 = 12 / 390 = 24 / 426 = 12 / 385a = 11 / 385b = 14 / 392 = 13
      I've got a 37 marker result on the way from FTDNA.  I'll let you know when I get it.

      Family genealogy information.  Walsh of Kilkenny County, Ireland ("Walsh of the Mountain" clan).  The clan founder is Philip Walsh (or Philip "the Welshman") of the Cambro-Norman Invasion of Ireland, circa 1170 AD.   Folklore (author Gerald Gambresis) is that we are somehow descended from Welsh princess Nest verch Rhys (11 century), who is of the Tewdwrs.

      My closest match on Stephen Oppenheimer's "Origins of the British" is what he calls R1b-13.  He says "R1b-13 expanded northwards from the south-west European refuge (Iberia & southern Gaul) during the Mesolithic" timeframe.  "The gene flows up the ancient extended coastline, which had now opened up to show the southern part of the English Channel and the Irish Sea. In this migration, south-coastal England, Cornwall, Cumbria and Wales were targeted."

      I do have a question.  Are the Welsh men typically of any particular  R1b1c sub-clade and if so, which ones?

      Regards,
      Michael W. Walsh
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