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Re: [volapuk] Pük bevünetik gölikün (fwd)

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  • Paul O. Bartlett
    I forwarded Ralph s inquiry to the AUXLANG mailing list and got this reply in turn. Paul Bartlett ... To: AUXLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU ... Reply-To:
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      I forwarded Ralph's inquiry to the AUXLANG
      mailing list and got this reply in turn.

      Paul Bartlett

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      To: AUXLANG@...
      >From: Jeff Blakeslee <blakesleej@...>
      Reply-To: International Auxiliary Languages <AUXLANG@...>
      Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:47:56 -0500
      Subject: Re: [volapuk] Pük bevünetik gölikün (fwd)

      Found this, from _The Deipnosophists_ by Athenaeus of Naucratis [stuff in
      square brackets is mine]:

      Book III. 98 d – e

      Speaking of the same Dionysius, Athanis, in the first book of his Sicilian
      History, says that he called the ox 'earth-earer' and the pig iacchos. Like
      him also was Alexarchus (brother of Cassander, once king of Macedonia) the
      found[er] of the city named Uranopolis [on Mt. Athos, in 297 BC]. Concerning
      him Heracleides Lembus, in the thirty-seventh book of his Histories,
      narrates the following: 'Alexarchus, founder of Uranopolis, introduced
      peculiar expressions, calling the cock "dawn-crier," the barber
      "mortal-shaver," the drachma "a silver bit," the quart-measure "daily
      feeder," the herald "loud bawler." And on one occasion he sent this strange
      message to the authorities of Cassandreaia: "Alexarchus, to the Primipiles
      of Brother’s Town, joy: Our sun-fleshed yeans, I wot, and dams thereof which
      guard the braes whereon they were born, have been visited by the fateful
      dome of the gods in might, fresheting them hence from the forsaken fields."
      What this letter means, I fancy, not even the god of Delphi could make out.'

      http://pda.websfor.com/alexander/athenaeus/book3.asp

      Amicalmente,
      Jeff


      On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:11:19 -0500, Paul O. Bartlett <bartlett@...> wrote:

      >This just appeared on the Volapük list.
      >Does anyone have any information?
      >
      >Paul Bartlett
      >
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      >To: volapuk@yahoogroups.com
      >>From: Ralph & Betty Midgley <rmidgley@...>
      >Reply-To: volapuk@yahoogroups.com
      >Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:26:36 +0100
      >Subject: [volapuk] Pük bevünetik gölikün
      >
      >Spodan oba penom, das lautan gölikün püka mekavik äbinom hiel "Alexarh" se
      "Uranopolis" ünü tumyels kilid jü folid bü Kristus. Nolob nosi tefü pösod
      at u tefü pük oma. Elilon-li ek nemi at?
      >
      >Ein Korrespondent von mir schreibt, daß der früheste Autor einer
      Kunstsprache war Herr "Alexarh" aus "Uranopolis" im dritten
      >oder im vierten Jahrhundert vor Christus. Ich weiß nichts von dieser
      Person oder von seiner Sprache. Hat jemand diesen Namen gehört?
      >
      >Un corrispondente mio scrive che l'autore più primitivo di una lingua
      artificiale era signor "Alexarh" di "Uranopolis" nel terzo u quarto secolo
      prima di Cristo. So niente né di questa persona né della sua lingua. Ha
      sentito qualcuno questo nome?
      >
      >My correspondent writes that the earliest author of an artificial language
      was Mr "Alexarh" of "Uranopolis" in the third or fourth century before
      Christ. I don't know anything about this person or about his language.
      Has anyone heard this name?
      >
      >Un de mes correspondents écrit que l'auteur le plus primitif d'une langue
      artificielle ètait Monsieur "Alexarh" de "Uranopolis" au troisième ou
      quatrième siècle avant Christ. Je ne sais rien ou de cette personne ou de
      sa langue. Est-ce que quelqu'un a entendu ce nom-ci?
      >
      >Un correspondiente mío escribe que l'autor más primitivo de una lengua
      artificial fue el señor "Alexarh" de "Uranopolis" en el tercer u cuarto
      siglo antes de Cristo. No sé nada ni de esta persona ni de su lengua. Ha
      oído alguíen este nombre?
      >
      >Mia korespondanto skribas, ke la awtoro plej primitiva de artefarita lingvo
      estis la sinjoro "Alexarh" de "Uranopolis" en la tria u kvara jarcento antaw
      Kristo. Mi scias nenion de chi tiu persono, ni de lia lingvo. Chu awdis
      iu ajn tiu chi nomon?
      >
      >Le mie correspondente scribe que le autor le plus primitive de lingue
      artificial esseva le senior "Alexarh" de "Uranopolis" in le tertie u quarte
      seculo ante Christo. Io non sape nihil ni de iste persona, ni de sue
      lingua. Ha audite alcuno iste nomine?
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